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jimjamuser 01-29-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1893536)
CCW carrier would deal with that dog...if not..baseball bat

She could carry bear spray with her. Lighter than baseball or softball bat. Fits in a purse better, also!

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzerbaby (Post 1893562)
I have a pit bull, she’s a fantastic dog. Personally, I would not let her off leash in an uncontrolled environment. Btw, I’ve been bitten more often from little dogs like chihuahuas then larger breeds. In fact I’d venture to say that little dogs do bite more then larger dogs, you just don’t hear about it as often because they don’t do the damage that larger breeds can. To ban a certain breed is ludicrous, kind of like banning someone of a different color or ethnicity beacause they supposedly are more (insert whatever reason you want here) then others. Just like people, dogs are products of their environment and owners/parents. Flame away

This is like the debate about NATURE or NURTURE - genetic heredity or environmental training. Your particular individual dog MAY (?) be an outlier of the breed - may on the surface be friendly (to people) and have had GREAT environmental training. But, the DNA and breeding for dog violence are hidden just below the surface and ready to explode in some particular circumstance.

Pit Bulls were bred for hundreds of years for aggressive, violent dog behavior - not as a friendly, compliant pet and household companion. It is ridiculous to own that breed in a crowded urban environment like TV Land. If you do, you would be wise to just walk it outside on YOUR own property. Walking it on roads and common Village property you lose control of the situation and you invited problems and lawsuits. Find a farm that would take the animal and get yourself a more Village friendly breed. End of "flame".

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1893624)
25+ Dog Bite Statistics 2020-2021 | Top Dog Bites by Breed
Their research indicates that the top 6 breeds that are reported along with bite injuries are:

“Unknown”
Pit Bull
Mixed Breed
German Shepherd
Terrier
Rottweiler

66% of Fatal Dog Bite Deaths Caused by Pit Bulls

That fact that 66% of fatal (to humans) attacks by dogs at due to Pit Bulls really stands out to me. I might have expected 25% - BUT 66%. That makes me stand by my statement that the Pit Bull breed should NOT be allowed in the whole US anywhere. Just like an invasive breed of fish or any other useless animal or plant, they should not be allowed inside the country. There are plenty of less aggressive breeds for a dog lover to choose from. A government's 1st responsibility is to keep its citizens safe - even from dangerous pets. You need a special license to own a lion or a tiger - there are GOOD reasons for that - because there are always individuals that would choose inappropriate pets. Your right to own a dangerous animal does NOT SUPERSEDE my right to not get KILLED or bitten.

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1893626)
In the report you cite the following was written:

Which dog breeds are the most dangerous?

A common question when it comes to dog bites is:

Which breeds are the most dangerous?

The AVMA or American Veterinary Medical Association conducted an in-depth literature review to analyze existing studies on dog bites and serious injuries. Their findings indicate that there is no single breed that stands out as the most dangerous.

According to their review, studies indicate breed is not a dependable marker or predictor of dangerous behavior in dogs. Better and more reliable indicators include owner behavior, training, sex, neuter status, dog’s location (urban vs. rural), and even varying ownership trends over the passing of time or geographic location.

For example, they note that often pit bull-type dogs are reported in severe and fatal attacks. However, the reason is likely not related to the breed. Instead, it is likely because they are kept in certain high-risk neighborhoods and likely owned by individuals who may use them for dog fights or have involvement in criminal or violent acts.

Therefore, pit bulls with aggressive behavior are a reflection of their experiences.

Guess you missed that.

I disagree and say not to try to manipulate statistics. Junkyards use rottweilers and german shepherds and other mixed breeds as much or more than pit bulls. it is a statistic - not a lab experiment to determine inherent aggressive breeding.

Joe V. 01-29-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1894557)
I disagree and say not to try to manipulate statistics. Junkyards use rottweilers and german shepherds and other mixed breeds as much or more than pit bulls. it is a statistic - not a lab experiment to determine inherent aggressive breeding.

I manipulated nothing. If you actually read the post this is directly from the American Veterinary Medical Association.

Taltarzac725 01-29-2021 01:39 PM

Why I Love Pit Bulls | Cesar's Way

This is written by someone who knows dogs very well.

stebooo 01-29-2021 01:52 PM

Im quite sure you have heard this before. Im quite sure you heard this before you bought a pit bull. You can't deny this is the make up of certain breeds.

jklfairwin 01-29-2021 03:39 PM

Animal control should be notified about this dog. The owners are usually given a warning.

Nevermore 01-29-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 1893785)
Thank you
Well said

Breed specific legislation is stupid. And it is not a matter of time before a pittie bites. Every pit tie I have ever encountered was a sweetie. My friends pit bulls have been big couch potatoes. The only thing I feared was getting licked. An animal senses p

Of course, no animal should be off leash around people. I have not ever walked my dogs off leash. I need to protect them from people. My golden retriever is gorgeous and everyone wants to pet him. I tell them that in this pandemic I would prefer they not interact with her.

Pit bulls only get negative reviews. Some police departments are using them police dogs. If you look you will see pitties have saved families from fires, protected their owners, which every dog should do.

My German Shepard was always watching I was alone and someone like a worker was in my home. I told all of them that my dog was very friendly, but protective I just told them as long as he did not approach me suddenly and did not yell, it would be fine. And it always was.

You are 100% responsible for what your dogs do. When I see a large dog straining on his leash I pick up my small dogs. If a dog is straining on leash, he is not under his owners control.

Pitt should be trained with love and discipline and have them properly trained. You need to also be trained on proper ways to train them.

I had my shepherd trained for two weeks. He stayed at the trainers home. She came back calm and attentive and listened to everything I asked to do. She was a big girl and 120 pounds,
However she was not the alpha dog. My 10 pound doxie ruled the pack.

This is much longer then I intended it to be. The message I am trying to say is all dogs need to be trained, no matter the breed and Pitt bulls are wonderful pets.

Topspinmo 01-29-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1894100)
Use a 9 iron or wedge------cuts better


Let’s see? What did tiger’s wife use? Guess that’s why he can’t hit approach shot anymore??:)

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lawgolfer (Post 1893802)
For 40 years I defended hundreds of homeowners/dog owners by appointment of their insurers. Included were three death claims. In every case the dog owners never failed to tell me, at length, how their dog was the most wonderful, gentle pet and that they could not imagine what the victim did to provoke their dog. The next thing I usually heard was how the dog slept with their children and they would never have allowed this had the dog been vicious.

From this, I learned four things:

1. All owners love their dogs and believe their dogs are harmless;

2. All owners are blind to reality and fail to appreciate the danger their dogs pose to others;

3. Any dog can bite at any time or attack another dog at any time;

4. Large dogs bite harder, do more damage, and pose a greater danger than small dogs.

As a final observation, my clients who owned pit bulls were the worst offenders and failed to have any insight into the danger their dogs posed to others. Frankly, most of them were flaming as ....oles who should have been locked in a cage with someone else's pit bull!

One of the most honest posts that I have read on this forum.

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by allenpegg1@gmail.com (Post 1893803)
Check the bite pressure/jaw strength of a Pit Bull against any other breed. That Chihuahua's bite may break your skin because of it's sharp teeth, but that Pit can take a hunk out of your neck. Of all dog breeds, which has the most critical/dangerous attributes in relationship to attacks?

Small dogs nip at your ankle. Large dogs that are bred to help hunters kill bears will go for your head and throat. I know which one I would prefer to attack me!

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fore! (Post 1893807)
I have to agree with you that it’s not always the size of the dog. We rescued a Pekingese. He bit a friend, my husband, small minor bites, however the third time he literally attacked my arm. He bit me in several places. He was friendly with other dogs, however one never knew when he would “turn” on us, so unfortunately after about $2000 in expenses of supplies, special food, vet bills, training and my Urgent Care visit, we retuned him to the rescue shelter. They adopted him out again to a lady with a young ( appears about 8) child! I did report it to the appropriate people.

Rescue dogs appear to be a good solution to unwanted pets. But, as you have reported all that was accomplished was a "passing along" of a problem pet. Yes, it itself lives on for a little longer, but look at the cost in time and $ to yourselves, the previous owners, and the next owners and maybe future owners. The dog is like a 3-time loser and has left a wake of sadness and costs. Small dogs are bred for their smallness, regardless of temperament. Medium-sized modern dog breeds like Spaniels are more likely to be bred for good temperament. Best to buy a puppy at about 6 weeks from birth (read up in the dog books about why 6 weeks) and choose a medium-sized breed known for good temperament. That will save you long term costs and give more satisfaction.

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by meboyle (Post 1893813)
You said the pit was off leash? Why? All dogs have to be on a leash. Why can’t the Villages fine, or get a warning from Animal Control?
Hope the little guy is okay.
I had a small Derbyshire pit, he was a lap dog..so it’s the owner who needs training!

Statistically, that is an N of 1. Not statistically meaningful. SO FAR, maybe (?) you were lucky or possibly conveniently misremembering some bad behavior?

jimjamuser 01-29-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1893817)
The aggressive dog owner should’ve been arrested and taken to jail. The dog should’ve been taken to quarantine and evaluated by a specialist.

Evaluated by a dog psychiatrist? That is actually pretty funny. I wonder if someone believes that such a thing actually exists?


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