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jrref 06-27-2025 06:47 AM

I'm pretty sure if you DIY and add one of these you void the warranty but then again I've seen some electrical contractors who install generators and add the soft start because it's necessary, so maybe there is a way around it.

When your single stage system eventually fails and needs replacement get one of the inverter variable speed systems which is the same technology as the mini splits everyone is installing then you don't need to worry about this problem.

RoboVil 06-27-2025 07:34 AM

I looked at getting one for my non-Villages house when I was considering a whole-house generator. The HVAC guy recommended strongly adding one. Said they malfunction often. So, I didn't.

JRcorvette 06-27-2025 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2441361)
The one I saw was mounted inside the AC unit and would most likely void your warranty.

You are totally wrong! Why make comments when you do not know what you are talking about?

ithos 06-27-2025 08:00 AM

A note of caution. I purchased mine before they designed a newer one that was "one size fits all." There are some threads on Reddit that talk about it. Or try this google search micro air easy start "hvac-talk.com".

The newer design had issues according to Reddit threads(B34). They apparently fixed it in the B36 version. If concerned I would check different sites for feedback or purchase one from the manufacturer.

JRcorvette 06-27-2025 08:02 AM

A soft start system ramps up your AC unit slowly in stages so that there is no voltage spike at start up. This will make it possible for you to run your AC unit on a relatively small generator which could come in very useful should a storm cause an extended power outage. The unit cost a few hundred dollars and is relatively easy to install. There are may YouTube videos on it. Or you can have your AC service company do it. Make sure you buy one that is rated for the size of your AC.

jrref 06-27-2025 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RoboVil (Post 2441658)
I looked at getting one for my non-Villages house when I was considering a whole-house generator. The HVAC guy recommended strongly adding one. Said they malfunction often. So, I didn't.

That's the problem, they do malfunction more than you would think. But maybe some of the newer ones are more reliable.

Topspinmo 06-27-2025 08:35 AM

IMO the fan bearings going fail long before winding? Wouldn’t that be similar capacitor than in squirrel cage? It seems to wind up slower than fan on outside unit? Or is it the amount of air the squirrel cage pushes? When storm comes and power outage I’m more concerned with refrigeration units, but guess it you have generator big enough to run why not?

ithos 06-27-2025 08:43 AM

I believe that far more MicroAir easy starts are purchased by RV owners than home owners. I recommend checking RV sites for more information.

metoo21 06-27-2025 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2441613)
......so I recommend watching this video for the best description on the benefits and how to install.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDp1g8r8IVs

That is a great video. I've watched it several times the past before I bought the easy start.

metoo21 06-27-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2441614)
Question: It looks like you are changing the wiring inside the condenser unit. How does this affect the manufacturer's 10-year compressor warranty?

You really only "move" 1 wire to connect it to the easy start. No effect on warranty on my carrier unit anyway. I've had the annual service from Sunshine the last 3 years and they have all said the easy starts are great units.

I DIY'd mine. Very easy to install.

metoo21 06-27-2025 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2441680)
IMO the fan bearings going fail long before winding? Wouldn’t that be similar capacitor than in squirrel cage? It seems to wind up slower than fan on outside unit? Or is it the amount of air the squirrel cage pushes? When storm comes and power outage I’m more concerned with refrigeration units, but guess it you have generator big enough to run why not?

It's not really there to protect the fan motor. It is there to protect the compressor motor. That is what draws all of the amps.

metoo21 06-27-2025 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2441676)
That's the problem, they do malfunction more than you would think. But maybe some of the newer ones are more reliable.

Easy to tell if it malfunctions. It is connected to an app by bluetooth with diagnostics. And should you need to, you can disconnect it from the AC unit and put that 1 "moved" wire back until you get the easy start replaced.

drducat 06-27-2025 09:55 AM

Yes will double the life of your unit. With the cost of heat pump air units being so high the $350 for the easy start is cheap ...will save you thousands of $

jrref 06-27-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2441700)
Yes will double the life of your unit. With the cost of heat pump air units being so high the $350 for the easy start is cheap ...will save you thousands of $

Doubling the life would be true if you installed the device when your unit was new and all you had to worry about was the compressor. There are lot's of other stuff that will go bad to end the units life normally. So, will this device extend the life of your condensor, probably yes but there is no way to know for how long since the compressor can fail for many reasons other than start-up wear and tear.

ithos 06-27-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jrref (Post 2441708)
Doubling the life would be true if you installed the device when your unit was new and all you had to worry about was the compressor. There are lot's of other stuff that will go bad to end the units life normally.

Everything on the condenser can be repaired for relatively little money with the exception of the compressor.

Fans are cheap and is a DIY. Repairing freon leaks may be an exception but that is half day charge.


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