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waterflower 08-20-2023 08:25 AM

All marketing is a mind game. Everything looks beautiful, but; empty heart and soul.

tophcfa 08-20-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chee-Chee (Post 2247439)
I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved.

Dam, I guess yoga isn’t exactly the zen, peace, and tranquility activity that it’s advertised to be?

Kim McGraw 08-20-2023 10:27 AM

Simply turn the keys into “lost and found”. Lol.

kendi 08-20-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 2247463)
Sounds like you've been meeting the true "ENTITLED" villager. They seem to be everywhere.

That’s society in general. Not exclusive to TV

wmcgowan 08-20-2023 11:06 AM

get their earlier that the other person

BBBnWitty 08-20-2023 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chee-Chee (Post 2247439)
I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

I agree that folks shouldn't save spots for others (except maybe one spot for a spouse or significant other). But if someone arrives early enough to grab a spot before a class begins, especially a regular, then I don't see the problem. If you want to be in a class then show up early and mark your spot. Also, I look forward to when this fad of throwing the word "entitled" around as if it is a word with bad connotations. Look it up in a hard or soft covered dictionary that's more than 20 years old. I hope you all have a wonderful day and enjoy all the things you are entitled to.

Velvet 08-20-2023 11:17 AM

“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

JMintzer 08-20-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2247827)
“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

Yeah, except that is only one small part of the definition...

I tend to lump in those that throw around that term in with those who label everything they don't like about TV as "Greed"...

Chee-Chee 08-20-2023 01:30 PM

When people save an entire row, unacceptable. My wife goes to class religiously. In fact 4-5 time a week. She is quiet and shy then internalizes it. She told me and it said try to find another class. Or I offered to go to the class as soon as the center opens and stand on a spot for her. she will find another class.

Number 10 GI 08-20-2023 02:15 PM

The only reason this happens is because the entitled ones are allowed to get away with it. Don't give in to bullies.

Flyers999 08-20-2023 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wmcgowan (Post 2247819)
get their earlier that the other person

Exactly. That's how it works. One must get in line and wait until the door opens. Then you can go in and claim your spot; then you can use the bathroom, etc. Now you shouldn't be able to "save an entire row." Perhaps this is what the OP is referring to.

margaretmattson 08-20-2023 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chee-Chee (Post 2247861)
When people save an entire row, unacceptable. My wife goes to class religiously. In fact 4-5 time a week. She is quiet and shy then internalizes it. She told me and it said try to find another class. Or I offered to go to the class as soon as the center opens and stand on a spot for her. ������ she will find another class.

Yikes! An entire row?I have never seen that happen. I just see people going to their usual spots and then I settle in where they tell me. Never had much of a problem.

Question. Is this in the newer areas? I don't get down there often, and, if so, I will not waste my time. Sounds like many classes are filled to capacity. One less person for y'all to worry about! So sorry this is happening.

LuvNH 08-20-2023 03:30 PM

If you are a yoga enthusiast and have lived here for over 10 years you will remember Karon and Jack. In their class most people used the same space every week, but we would come in with our mats and sit on our mats until the class started. If someone came in earlier and took the place you usually had you would find another space, no big deal. Line dancing was totally different. Loads of stuff on the floor to save their spot and nobody around until the instructor came in. Unfortunately, as much as I loved line dancing, the sheer numbers of people cramming into the class was ridiculous so I gave that up. The Saturday morning class with Cheryl was very popular and I believe the room allowed 150 people so the back row was dancing in the foliage at the back of the room.

Suzieque 08-20-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by deborahcme (Post 2247729)
Posting as a fitness instructor from "up nawth." Your FI is not the police. We can't step in and settle everyone's hash, much as we might like to! Most people who have their "spot" do so out of habit. Most people who save spots for others just want to hang out with their best buds. It's not intentional "entitlement," just peeps seeking their comfort zone. And perhaps having a wee dose of FMO! When I see a full class, I'll just say "Hey we are full up today. Isn't that great? I know you all will make room and welcome any newcomers. They are probably nervous. So, give them a hand! Thank you so much for helping them find a spot to work out!" This, done with eye contact and positive smiles works beautifully. And if you are a newcomer to a class, go ahead and introduce yourself to a few peeps. "Confess" to being a newbie and not sure what to do. Any defensive walls will melt away. Yeah, yeah, there will still be a few who....ya know. But for the most part, I've found people want to be welcoming, especially here in TV.

Well said and I agree. Most people have a "spot" but it is just habit and they want to be by their friends. If someone comes earlier than I do and takes my "spot ", I just go somewhere else.

mikeycereal 08-21-2023 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2247614)
Do “regulars” have assigned spots like children in grade 1 with their names on it? Or are their numbered tickets assigned to a spot? If not, it’s first come, first served.

And are there cubby holes for their school stuff? :1rotfl:

Mardys 08-21-2023 05:29 AM

Get real! I, for one, get to class very early and put my bag near the door until it’s opened and then I can get in the room. Until the worker opens the door and allows us in the room I just wait in the lobby, talk to friends, and read. For those who think the can run in the last 15 minutes or less before class just need to get in earlier.

asianthree 08-21-2023 06:20 AM

I am confused, any class I go to, you can’t enter class until the doors are opened. Cards are scanned, at door. If only one entered and saves spots, the class fills, those with saved spots can’t enter, because class is full.

I enter at door opening place my mat where I choose. I do leave the room, WHY, because I like calm, quiet, zen, prior to class.

Hate to say it but, that isn’t the mood in any room, in TV, because those that enter engage in Non Stop useless conversations.

One can tell true yogi (my instructor for 29 years is from India) those who enter her rooms take silence, and respect of the class, as the best way to enter into well being.

So I Don’t save space, but I don’t return to my mat until class starts

B.Kauffman 08-21-2023 06:32 AM

Coffee
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2247518)
Free coffee??? Really???? Maybe I should start going to church. LOL.

Coffeebean:). Sounds like you & I could be pals when we get to TV.

coffeebean 08-21-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by B.Kauffman (Post 2247998)
Coffeebean:). Sounds like you & I could be pals when we get to TV.

:wave:

Whitley 08-21-2023 07:54 AM

As we age
 
I understand that it is rude, however there may be more to it then entitlement. As we age, the familiar become increasingly important to us (I missed the classes as to why). A building demolished along the walking path a senior takes daily for exercise can throw them into a panic. Changing the menu of a diner of coffee shop they go to daily can result in a crisis . reserving a space for someone not there, or asking someone to leave a space is rude, however I try to be understanding. My Mom is in an ALF. Her and two other ladies have "their" table to eat at. They do not ask people to leave (though they may), but one will arrive45 minutes to an hour early to get that table. There are always other empty tables all through meals, but they must have that one. I tried to bring it up with them, which resulted in their getting agitated. I don't want to agitate 82 to 99 year olds. You and your wide are fortunate to have each other. If possible do not let this occupy too much of your time.

Two Bills 08-21-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2248040)
You and your wide are fortunate to have each other. If possible do not let this occupy too much of your time.

Are you insinuating my wide is overweight?:icon_wink:

BBBnWitty 08-21-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2247827)
“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Whitley 08-21-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BBBnWitty (Post 2248057)
You're entitled to your opinion.

See what you did there? You are good. That, was good.

Donegalkid 08-21-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chee-Chee (Post 2247439)
I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

Isn’t the solution in this case the same as in other similar situations (general admission seating with no assigned or reserved seating) that if you want a certain spot at an event you need to get there first, and BEFORE all others and take the spot where you wish to be seated? Bring a book to read as you wait for class to begin. Reserving spots by throwing down blankets, leaving markers, lawn chairs, etc., has been happening for as long as public events have been occurring. Fair or not. It probably was a common occurrence as far back as the Coliseum in Ancient Rome … I can imagine folks leaving their togas on seats prior to the gladiator events and battles with wild animals.

Velvet 08-21-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BBBnWitty (Post 2248057)
You're entitled to your opinion.

Thank you. And you are too… but you know that is just one way of using the word, don’t you?

Tikki 08-22-2023 06:44 AM

I agree with the writer. It was one of the things I looked forward to attending.. after the 2nd time-I found other things to do outside the villages. I laugh when I see them requesting new people. Who would allow themselves to be treated like…..

Glowfromminnesota 08-22-2023 06:53 AM

Gosh. No matter where you live and what state, the same issue always occurs. A few people always feel entitled. I struggle with that in Minnesota at the YMCA (just last night actually). I noticed in The Villages one room had signs indicating that isn’t allowed, but they still do it. There is a code of ethics that no one follows. The instructors don’t get paid so it probably shouldn’t be them to say anything. Most instructors in The Villages instruct out of kindness. It truly makes it difficult for new people to join in because often they have to go to the back of the room and can’t see the instructor. How about the students that try to outdo the instructor? Now that is a new conversation :-).

mjr0773 08-22-2023 06:59 AM

Be careful with the seat saving issue at the squares. The hourly announcement says something to the effect of “if you do plan to save seats, at least one member of the party must stay by the seats”. This announcement does open the possibility of one person saving say, 15 seats.

Salty Dog 08-24-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2247508)
We do a lot of cruising: it is nothing for people to put a towel on a good chair by the pool and then disappear for inordinate amounts of time.

This is one of the largest complaints by cruisers. I can see why. Not so much for me. Being from sunny Florida where you are never out of sight of a pool, laying around a pool on my cruise isn't high on my list...


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