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cbmerl 04-22-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 2086807)
Question: several call me OP when answering my thread. That doesn't bother me, but I don't know what it means. Could someone please tell me? Thanks.

'OP' means Original Poster

kayak 04-22-2022 09:51 AM

I replaced my water heater a few years back and I did not pull a permit for the job. A couple of years later I listed the house for sale through the Properties of The villages. My agent pulled all the permits and told me it looks like you still have the original water heater. I gave her the date of install and she updated her records and that was good enough for the property listing.

The only problem I had with the do-it-yourself water heater replacement was the disposal of the old water heater. The trash wouldn't take it. Bulk pickup would not take it. I was told that the contractor who changed the water heater was supposed to take it. Of course there was no contractor I did it myself. I ended up getting someone to come pick it up for scrap metal.

Do it yourself - not a problem.
No permit- not a problem.
Disposal of old water heater - small problem but I worked it out.

midiwiz 04-22-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 2086450)
I have the skills, tools and ability to do any job that needs doing on my own property, but I don't know what I am allowed to do in The Villages. Apparently, in The Villages a contractor is required for almost every job other than the most basic. Is that right? I do realize contractors must make a living and that property values need protection, but that is not part of my question. I am just asking where the line is between what a skilled person can do himself, and what he is not permitted to do? Is there somewhere I can turn to for this information?

I've never seen that anywhere here. I do see a lot of people getting contractors to do the most simple of jobs. I do all of it myself here. it's your house and using contractors doesn't protect property values in any way ever.

MartinSE 04-22-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 2086807)
Question: several call me OP when answering my thread. That doesn't bother me, but I don't know what it means. Could someone please tell me? Thanks.

OP means original post

jpvillager 04-22-2022 03:32 PM

Had my 40 gal gas replaced by a plumber about 4 years ago. I bought it at Lowes. I called TECO. To qualify for the rebate it has to be installed by a professional. I think the plumber turned in the request for the rebate for me.

melpetezrinski 04-22-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 2086801)
Thanks melpetezrinski-- The quote I got for a new 50 gallon water heater plus expansion unit was $1900. I thought that was quite excessive. Nothing was said about Teco rebates. Personally, I don't see why I need a 50 gallon water heater anyway; I think a 40 gallon one would do quite well. Is there any way to send me the name of the contractor you used without breaking the rules here at Talk of the Villages? I will try to send you a private message through a Talk of the Villages app, but I am not at all sure how that works. There are so many smart-aleck people trolling this site, trying to show how superior they are to mere mortals, that I hesitate to put my email address on here. Perhaps another user can tell me how to communicate with you privately.


Roger Pearce. He can be reached at 352-572-8954 or at pearceinstall@gmail.com

ogme480 04-22-2022 10:40 PM

If I understand you correctly…you know what you’re doing….you own it…you maintain it…go for it!

Bay Kid 04-23-2022 07:34 AM

Is tankless gas hot water worth the money when replacing the gas hot water tank? The rebate is higher.

Aqtlow 04-23-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 2086801)
Thanks melpetezrinski-- The quote I got for a new 50 gallon water heater plus expansion unit was $1900. I thought that was quite excessive. Nothing was said about Teco rebates. Personally, I don't see why I need a 50 gallon water heater anyway; I think a 40 gallon one would do quite well. Is there any way to send me the name of the contractor you used without breaking the rules here at Talk of the Villages? I will try to send you a private message through a Talk of the Villages app, but I am not at all sure how that works. There are so many smart-aleck people trolling this site, trying to show how superior they are to mere mortals, that I hesitate to put my email address on here. Perhaps another user can tell me how to communicate with you privately.

Water heaters and septic tank systems are based on the number of bedrooms. Not bathrooms or people living there at the time.
The permit is for your protection that ALL safety devices and code practices are followed.
That being said you as a home owner can
Pull a permit If you live there and it’s your primary residence.
That’s according to the two states that I have had experience with.
That being said TV would require a permit for farting so they could make money on it. Lol :)

ryoungs 04-23-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2087322)
Roger Pearce. He can be reached at 352-572-8954 or at pearceinstall@gmail.com

Thanks melpetezrinski. I will give him a call.

Bogie Shooter 04-23-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aqtlow (Post 2087508)
Water heaters and septic tank systems are based on the number of bedrooms. Not bathrooms or people living there at the time.
The permit is for your protection that ALL safety devices and code practices are followed.
That being said you as a home owner can
Pull a permit If you live there and it’s your primary residence.
That’s according to the two states that I have had experience with.
That being said TV would require a permit for farting so they could make money on it. Lol :)

What permits does TV charge a fee?

WelchNH 04-23-2022 11:18 AM

Check Florida laws and Building Codes
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2086453)
Yes. As a homeowner, you can replace almost anything in your house that you want. But, if it is a gas heater, you may want to check with the gas company. There are also some larger projects where you may need a county building permit. The problem can occur when you hire a contractor who is not licensed to do the project, like unlicensed plumbers and electricians. In that case, you may be held liable or uninsured if something goes wrong. However, as a homeowner, you don't need a license to do plumbing, electrical, and most other work.

In NH, where I'm from, a homeowner could perform certain building and repair tasks- I've added circuit breakers, replaced electric hot water heaters, etc. But I don't believe you are allowed to do that in Florida. A professional license (plumbing, electrical, gas ) is required. Check with your county's building codes dept.- they'll know. Of course, you can do anything without much fear of getting cited for a violation- but in the event of any malfunction requiring an insurance inspection- or selling your house subject to a "satisfactory" home inspection, you might run into problems. Low probability, but not zero.

keepsake 04-23-2022 11:36 AM

I am in the market for an 80 gallon (or close to it) electric water heater. Please reach out if you or know of where there is a used one.

retiredguy123 04-23-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WelchNH (Post 2087652)
In NH, where I'm from, a homeowner could perform certain building and repair tasks- I've added circuit breakers, replaced electric hot water heaters, etc. But I don't believe you are allowed to do that in Florida. A professional license (plumbing, electrical, gas ) is required. Check with your county's building codes dept.- they'll know. Of course, you can do anything without much fear of getting cited for a violation- but in the event of any malfunction requiring an insurance inspection- or selling your house subject to a "satisfactory" home inspection, you might run into problems. Low probability, but not zero.

Interesting. I cannot find a Florida law that specifically prohibits a homeowner from doing work in their own house. For projects that require a permit, I think the Florida Statute Chapter 489 applies. That statute allow homeowners to apply for a permit and do projects up to $75,000 without a license. To get a permit, they may be required to sign a disclosure statement. Here is part of that disclosure statement from the statute:

"1. I understand that state law requires construction to be done by a licensed contractor and have applied for an owner-builder permit under an exemption from the law. The exemption specifies that I, as the owner of the property listed, may act as my own contractor with certain restrictions even though I do not have a license."

4pocketz 04-23-2022 01:51 PM

But I’m pretty sure you do NEED a permit from the powers that be, in the Villages!


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