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Bogie Shooter 03-25-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1733337)
Your "hypothetically" is bizarre, totally unreal, and has no basis whatsoever in the real world. It sounds like a weird novel.

This is a forum to share information, NOT alternate world theories.

But it did include race and guns...…………………..

TexaninVA 03-25-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1733393)
But it did include race and guns...…………………..

It actually addressed reality, which some people somehow find offensive ... quite peculiar.

Bucco 03-25-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1733393)
But it did include race and guns...…………………..

Sadly, very sadly, as has become the norms with lying.

You get so infiltrated that you begin to think it's normal, and it is the opposite of normal.

Same with the guns and race....you just expect that kind of thing from certain groups and people.

To be clear, the lying, race hating and gun things are abhorrent behavior, non normal in any sense.

TexaninVA 03-25-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1733399)
Sadly, very sadly, as has become the norms with lying.

You get so infiltrated that you begin to think it's normal, and it is the opposite of normal.

Same with the guns and race....you just expect that kind of thing from certain groups and people.

To be clear, the lying, race hating and gun things are abhorrent behavior, non normal in any sense.

I agree ... lying, racism and illegal usage of guns are abhorrent.

Bucco 03-25-2020 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1733398)
It actually addressed reality, which some people somehow find offensive ... quite peculiar.

Peculiar to me is your acceptance of such hateful things. That is really sad.

TexaninVA 03-25-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1733401)
Peculiar to me is your acceptance of such hateful things. That is really sad.

That’s the thing about reality. It is what it is and none of us can change it.

Sometimes reality intrudes in unfortunate ways.

I think most people recognize that’s accurate even if uncomfortable.

Bucco 03-25-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1733421)
That’s the thing about reality. It is what it is and none of us can change it.

Sometimes reality intrudes in unfortunate ways.

I think most people recognize that’s accurate even if uncomfortable.

Reality is reality.

My comments have reluctantly begun to realize that certain of the populace embrace an alternate reality, devoid of facts and truth, and while not facing east or anything so dramatic, they bow to a central central lead in their feelings and listen for what this truths are on each day.

I cannot change that, thus until further notice, I simply accept that there are folks like that. I still hold onto my beliefs of truth and facts along wit morality and more than that I cannot do.

When I enjoyed the privilege of “working” in Washington, I grabbed onto reality....have not changed at all,while so many have marched behind an alternate reality.

TexaninVA 03-25-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1733436)
Reality is reality.

My comments have reluctantly begun to realize that certain of the populace embrace an alternate reality, devoid of facts and truth, and while not facing east or anything so dramatic, they bow to a central central lead in their feelings and listen for what this truths are on each day.

I cannot change that, thus until further notice, I simply accept that there are folks like that. I still hold onto my beliefs of truth and facts along wit morality and more than that I cannot do.

When I enjoyed the privilege of “working” in Washington, I grabbed onto reality....have not changed at all,while so many have marched behind an alternate reality.

You’re basically saying you have a lock on the truth, and that your reality is exclusively based on facts, truths etc. Other people, ie other than you, rely on their feelings and all the stuff you said.

It’s nice that you’re willing to let others continue in their misguided ways.

I worked in DC for 28 years so I too have experienced various types of reality.

Really, go back and re-read what you wrote. It’s like you think your gifted with a special sense of nobility. Am I misreading your comments?

Twiganne 03-27-2020 12:50 PM

Hysteria
 
I suppose some that are over prepping have either lived through, or know at least one family member, who lived through the Great Depression. I only heard my grandma talk about what it was like. Perhaps people are fearing another depression where little goods would be available and a lot of people couldn’t afford them. Do you think that may have something to do with it? What concerns me, as a nurse, is still seeing people out and about with no regard to the social distancing. I don’t get it because of the high risk population we have in TV. The virus is real and precautions may save your life or someone else's. Please be smart and stay in unless absolutely necessary.

Twiganne 03-27-2020 01:03 PM

Yep. The people with the highest risks are still doing daily shopping. Why most of the food will go to waste. The most humorous part of this whole thing is watching people in TV panicking because now they have to cook.

Twiganne 03-27-2020 01:05 PM

This virus is three times more infective than the normal flu. That is why we are having to take all of the precautions we are now.

Twiganne 03-27-2020 01:12 PM

I have a friend in NJ who has said the same thing. He said he couldn’t breathe normally for a month. I believe we started having this outbreak long before anyone guessed it.

junction29 03-27-2020 01:45 PM

Yes because China covered it up!
 
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Originally Posted by Twiganne (Post 1734637)
I have a friend in NJ who has said the same thing. He said he couldn’t breathe normally for a month. I believe we started having this outbreak long before anyone guessed it.

Yes, we probably did, because the secretive and oppressive regime in China covered it up, until it had spread all across the world 👿👿

kittygilchrist 03-27-2020 02:56 PM

No you were not alone to say that we should not panic. But we are in a time when the risk of virus has expanded so that there are 24 cases in Lake County add cases in Marion county and 29 cases in Sumter County. Because of our advanced age, death is Something we should consider in choosing how much caution to take. I’m in the process of moving and do elbow bumps with People I know who are helping me. If I have to go out to a store, I wear gloves and generally a mask. What I have but I wipe down with disinfectant when I get home. It is important if we go out, to consider not only ourselves, but also that if we are careless, we could become a carrier. I would not want that on my conscience, would you?

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiganne (Post 1734637)
I have a friend in NJ who has said the same thing. He said he couldn’t breathe normally for a month. I believe we started having this outbreak long before anyone guessed it.

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Originally Posted by junction29 (Post 1734660)
Yes, we probably did, because the secretive and oppressive regime in China covered it up, until it had spread all across the world 👿👿

And we sat on our hands for two months...….Oh your source forgot to mention that.

TexaninVA 03-27-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiganne (Post 1734631)
Yep. The people with the highest risks are still doing daily shopping ...

Yes, I've noticed that too. Am aware of a person in late 70s who almost never washes hands, typically still goes out to various public places 3-4x a day, and has two significant underlying health conditions.

I just don't get it ... :ohdear:

Bucco 03-27-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1734744)
And we sat on our hands for two months...….Oh your source forgot to mention that.

That fact, and others has been ignored....certainly on this forum.

It is, however, a recorded historical fact and part of intelligence reports.

It's sad.....the part where you even have to mention that.

TexaninVA 03-27-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1734773)
That fact, and others has been ignored....certainly on this forum.

It is, however, a recorded historical fact and part of intelligence reports.

It's sad.....the part where you even have to mention that.

We'll have plenty of time for the after action reports and post postmortems. Certain federal, state and local leaders should have responded sooner. Some politicians and media people made comments in February that don't look so great a month later. Etc, etc.

But, for right now, we need to focus on getting through. I think most people agree with that.

Villageswimmer 03-27-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiganne (Post 1734631)
Yep. The people with the highest risks are still doing daily shopping. Why most of the food will go to waste. The most humorous part of this whole thing is watching people in TV panicking because now they have to cook.


Really? I have yet to see “people in TV panicking because now they have to cook.” Where is this happening?
I think this “panicking” stuff is greatly overstated to fit the agenda of the cavalier deniers who finally are forced to face reality.

graciegirl 03-27-2020 06:54 PM

[QUOTE=perrjojo;1731807]No, you are not the only one and that is why the virus continues to spread.[/QUOTE

As usual, I agree with this poster.

DianeM 03-27-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1733307)
The basis for this statement is my best judgment and assessment.

Let’s say hypothetically the medical authorities determine zero risk of coronavirus is achieved by everyone staying housebound for one year. The problem is, if this is done nationally in all locations, the economy stops, goods eventually become scare, people run out of essentials and so forth. Medications become hard to get along with food. Older people start to get sick and die.

As food runs out, people, probably starting in ethnically diverse neighborhoods in the large cities, start to pillage and then eventually riot. Civil disorder would then ensue.

By the way, this is why many people do in fact have numerous firearms and ammo etc stockpiled. This is often laughed at by those who consider themselves more sophisticated and tend to favor strict gun restrictions. There may be a change of opinion, over time by some, on this issue.

In any event, at some point (and that’s the tough part … which point) we have to get back to business.

I agree with you 100%. And when society goes totally down the drain, what good will the hoarded goods do? Only thing that will work needs to be loaded and carried at all times.

Bogie Shooter 03-28-2020 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1734822)
I agree with you 100%. And when society goes totally down the drain, what good will the hoarded goods do? Only thing that will work needs to be loaded and carried at all times.

Sad.

Klatu 03-28-2020 07:20 AM

Is there exaggeration? Yes.
Are some politicians playing this issue for power? Yes.
Is media hysterical in some cases, and duplicitous? Yes.
Is there a real public health issue? Yes.
Is it helpful to downplay the issue and not take seriously the guidelines that might save your life or the lives of others? No.
Are all Villagers observing the guidelines? No.
Are responsible Villagers trying to keep themselves and others safe by observing guidelines? Yes.

graciegirl 03-28-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 1731957)
I sure hope you're right but outbreaks worsen exponentially and we're in the early stages.

There are 5 ways this can play out

-virus "just dies out" like influenza....possible but certainly isn't happening yet
-vaccine or cure is developed.....looking at a year, maybe more
-eradication...like polio (of course, we had a vaccine in the fight v polio)
-most of the population gets over a long timeframe so as to not overwhelm our healthcare
-or....most of the population gets it all at once and we end up like Italy <-avoid this!!

It's a fact that the death rate is higher in older people and...... we're living in geezer central, right?

If only 1/2 of us in TV get it and if only 2% die that's still 5000 of us buying the farm in the next few months.

Like I said, I hope you're right and this is an overreaction but, personally, I'm taking it seriously.

Well said.

Chi-Town 03-28-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1733307)
The basis for this statement is my best judgment and assessment.

Let’s say hypothetically the medical authorities determine zero risk of coronavirus is achieved by everyone staying housebound for one year. The problem is, if this is done nationally in all locations, the economy stops, goods eventually become scare, people run out of essentials and so forth. Medications become hard to get along with food. Older people start to get sick and die.

As food runs out, people, probably starting in ethnically diverse neighborhoods in the large cities, start to pillage and then eventually riot. Civil disorder would then ensue.

By the way, this is why many people do in fact have numerous firearms and ammo etc stockpiled. This is often laughed at by those who consider themselves more sophisticated and tend to favor strict gun restrictions. There may be a change of opinion, over time by some, on this issue.

In any event, at some point (and that’s the tough part … which point) we have to get back to business.

You just watched Contagion, didn't you

TexaninVA 03-28-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1735115)
You just watched Contagion, didn't you

Actually no.

I've simply tried to consistently apply common sense over most of my life ... ie, after I completed my teenage years at least.


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