That is not what an article in the daily sun stated. There is NO INCREASE to current home owners only new purchases after 1 January 2022. I have lived here almost 12 years and only increases were when I purchased another home, it was at whatever the current rate was/is.

:ohdear: I always find the lack of knowledge about how things work around here very amazing. There are sooooo many that don't have a clue........

People there are resources to educate yourself all about the operation of the Villages and our Community Development District form of government - from orientations put on by The VHA and the District to a great District Web Site etc. :popcorn:

GWN has put alot of work into YOUTUBE videos that explain many things in great, easy to understand detail.

How do you police that? Do you only pay if you are in the square listening to music? What if you are on the outside, waiting for a dinner reservation? What about if your kids/grandkids come down, do they pay? What about visitors planning to buy a house?
Maybe a toll at the entrances to the squares? (AND I AM KIDDING ABOUT THE TOLL)

I don't mind information seekers, it's the Negative Nillies that come on here swinging.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Amenity Fee
 

The higher fee only kicks in if you buy another house,

another house or a new construction ???

:coolsmiley: I agree. Nothing wrong with people trying to learn. I also don't care for all the negative stuff.......but I really dislike the posts from people that don't know what they are talking about. A good example would be a post from someone who has lived here 12 years and doesn't know the amenity fees can go up ever year on their anniversary. :ohdear: I'm looking at my files - amenity charge 12/09 was $130.75 and 12/21 is $164.41
I'm sure hers went up also. :icon_wink:

:ohdear: "outside people" ...... some days I am embarrassed to say I live here! :o

Unknowing posters that post wild a$$ guess of information, could easily educate themselves by reading all of the posts on a thread not just the OP and then type away!

or how many combinations to a keypad with four non-repeating key strokes.

:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Hand wasn't on bible, just fingers, i swear
 

no worries, when bbb shows up here i'm sure our costs will be defrayed by offsets eg.

1. Toll booths at all village's gates. Will accept sunpass.

2. Parking fees for vehicles to enter all commercial and residential parking areas. Sun pass accepted.

3. Charge by the pound at weigh stations for golf carts and passengers. Sunpass accepted

4. All drones will be charged flight time. Sun pass accepted.

5. All water views for residents and non residents will be charged at zoo park rates. Sun pass accepted

6. All bridges over 44 and turnpike will also have tolls. Sunpass accepted

7. Ballfields will charge admission fees for spectators and participants alike. Sunpass accepted.

8. Visiting children and grandchildren will be billed as tourists entering the pyramids. Sun pass accepted.

9. Mail boxes will accept sunpass to open.

10. Golf balls in air will be charged at drone rates. Sunpass accepted

11. I just awoke, what's going on?

Fair is always a question and often an argument. People endlessly discuss CPI consumer price index. Last time I looked it is roughly 7%. We all pay that after taxes. Assuming your top tax rate is 30%. You need to make 10% just to be even.

Embarrassed by others. Simple life view. If, you allow what others think to effect your self view you grant power to others that is and should be yours.

On this website and others just like it. People form OPINIONS of people they simply do not know. HATE like so many other words is used so often that it has lost all meaning.

I hope AWESOME has finally met it's end. When everything is/was awesome, awesome means nothing. I look forward to the day, perhaps, not soon, certainly not soon enough for me to mostly fade from the minds of far too many.

For me there are few people I care about enough that they have any influence on me whatsoever.

Is this like a :boom:?

Just got my new CSU bill today. Mine went from $160.04 to $170.94 this month and this is not my anniversary month.
:shocked::shocked::ohdear:

AWESOME post! Wait, what?

I've put these up before but obviously there are still a few people that need to get a little more information. In 2020 I posted a series of 3 videos about the amenity fee explaining what they are, where they come from, and where the money goes. Here's links to these videos

72 The Amenity Fee (part 1) and The Villages 7-26-2020 Construction Update - YouTube
73 The Amenity Fee (part 2) and The Villages 8-17-20 Construction Update - YouTube
78 The Villages 9-20-2020 Construction Update and $10,000 give away results - YouTube

Here's a link to the entire play list that also includes videos about the Bond and Maintenance Assessments.

The Villages Information/Fees Videos - YouTube

Even if you're familiar with these fees, watching the videos again will amaze you at how much things have changed in the last 18 months.

I've put these up before but obviously there are still a few people that need to get a little more information. In 2020 I posted a series of 3 videos about the amenity fee explaining what they are, where they come from, and where the money goes. Here's links to these videos

72 The Amenity Fee (part 1) and The Villages 7-26-2020 Construction Update - YouTube
73 The Amenity Fee (part 2) and The Villages 8-17-20 Construction Update - YouTube
78 The Villages 9-20-2020 Construction Update and $10,000 give away results - YouTube

Here's a link to the entire play list that also includes videos about the Bond and Maintenance Assessments.

The Villages Information/Fees Videos - YouTube

Even if you're familiar with these fees, watching the videos again will amaze you at how much things have changed in the last 18 months.

If you bought a pre-owned home, then the anniversary month is the month that the original owners bought. Not the month that you bought.

I am trying to come up with a list of things that are bought and paid for by my amenity fee that won't cost more in 2022, than they did in 2020. I haven't so far.
Labor?
Flowers?
Keeping the rec centers clean and inviting?
Executive course maintenance and equipment?
Materials to maintain the pickleball courts?
Equipment to maintain the common areas?
Every facet of every service provided by the amenity fees is subject to the effect of inflationary cost increases. In what world would it be possible to maintain the level of service we expect and NOT have it cost more to provide?

This is correct in my case, $164 to $175. I signed a contract on a preowned home in June 2021 and settled at the end of August 2021. When I called about my increase since I had only been here about 4 months I was told that it is not increased on the anniversary of your purchase date but the anniversary of the developer's purchase of the land.

This is a first, and it makes absolutely no sense. The developer may purchase the land in some cases more than a decade in advance of building and may transfer the land between any number of holding or shell companies that they own before the actual original sale of the home occurs. IF this were in fact the date that was to be used then every home between 466 and 466a would have the same anniversary date for the increase, the same would hold true for all the homes in Fenney-DeSoto, and Brandford-Chitty Chatty-Hawkins-St Catherine-Citrus Grove-Cason Hammock, CDD9-10, and so on.

I'm going to reach out to the District staff in the morning and get the correct answer for what date is used for the CPI adjustment. I'll share it when I get the information.

Agree.

My Covenants states the month of Contract of Sale of Homesite.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Will be interested in what you find out Goldwingnut.

We bought new construction and closed on March 28, 2017. Looking back at my bills, my amenity fee has increased each year on Jan 1. Went from 145 in 2017, 148.19 in 2018, 151.42 in 2019, 154.53 in 2020, 156.35 in 2021, 167 in 2022.

I've looked back on my own Amenity Fee for the almost 8 years I've lived here, the fee has gone up every March, the same month my home was put on the market by the developer.
The CPI that is used is based on the previous 12 months, not the calendar year, so the amount of increase will vary from month to month but eventually over time it all works out to be the same amount.
The inflation of the past year has really hit hard.
The CPI adjustment isn't very accurate and usually falls short of actual inflation (politics - can't inflation look too bad), the Developers annual adjustment of the prevailing rate that has been made for the last few years is a much more accurate measure of how much the cost to operate the facilities has gone up. With the CPI adjustments, we continue to lose ground on the budget for amenities, the reset to the prevailing rate on a home resale helps make that gap up.
Had we not dropped the deferral rate a few years ago, the amenity budget would be in the red by about $5 million this year and increasing each year.

[QUOTE=Goldwingnut;205521
I'm going to reach out to the District staff in the morning and get the correct answer for what date is used for the CPI adjustment. I'll share it when I get the information.[/QUOTE]

Do they use a rolling CPI or a yearly CPI? A rolling CPI would be the inflation for the previous 12 months so a person who bought in July, 2021, CPI would be calculated for the 12 months ending June 30, 2022. A yearly CPI would be the CPI for 2021. If you use the latter, everyone’s CPI would be the same. If you used a rolling CPI, there would be 12 different CPIs.

Didn't I just answer this in the previous post?
It's the rolling 12 month CPI.

You did. Some of us read it. I don't think he did! :ohdear: I'm always amazed how many didn't ask these questions before buying. Hence my new avatar and my signature. :)

179
 

Just paid mine - $179. Not a new owner.

My Dec 2021 amenity bill was $155.00. Dec 2021 raised to $169.53, That equals a 9.4% increase. I can not find a rolling 12 month CPI to equal 9.4%. What am I missing ? Not complaining simply seeking education.

I went checking my email from the District Staff, they provide the CPI adjustments to us (District Supervisors) every month. Most homes have a CPI adjustment every year and apparently some have it based on the 3 year rolling CPI (I'm checking on this also this morning). Here's the body of several of the emails I've received on CPI adjustments:

Jan 21,2022
The following is being forwarded to you at the request of Anne Hochsprung…
Please note the change in the Consumer Price Index – All Urban Consumers, Not Seasonally Adjusted, US City Average, All items is as follows:
For the one year period December 2020 – December 2021, CPI increased by 7.036%.
The three year CPI increase from December 2018 – December 2021 was 10.973%
This increase will be used to adjust Amenity Fees for those properties with an February 2022 anniversary date.
Please let me know if you would like any additional information.

Excerpts from other similar emails:

For the one year period October 2020 – October 2021, CPI increased by 6.222%.
The three year CPI increase from October 2018 – October 2021 was 9.373%

For the one year period September 2020 – September 2021, CPI increased by 5.390%.
The three year CPI increase from September 2018 – September 2021 was 8.664%

For the one year period August 2020 – August 2021, CPI increased by 5.251%.
The three year CPI increase from August 2018 – August 2021 was 8.495%

For the one year period July 2020 – July 2021, CPI increased by 5.365%.
The three year CPI increase from July 2018 – July 2021 was 8.332%

For the one year period June 2020 – June 2021, CPI increased by 5.391%.
The three year CPI increase from June 2018 – June 2021 was 7.821%

For the one year period May 2020 – May 2021, CPI increased by 4.993%.
The three year CPI increase from May 2018 – May 2021 was 6.998%

I have many more months of these numbers, but these are a good example of how the rolling 12 month average CPI is changing.

Not knowing your exact address, it is impossible to say what CPI was applied to your previous Amenity Fee amount was. As the adjustments are made at an accuracy of 5 decimal places (% + 3 decimal places) I find it absolutely amazing that your previous Fee was exactly $155.00, the odds on such a round number occurring must be so astronomically small. Stranger things have happened...

[QUOTE=Goldwingnut;2055456]I went checking my email from the District Staff, they provide the CPI adjustments to us (District Supervisors) every month. Most homes have a CPI adjustment every year and apparently some have it based on the 3 year rolling CPI (I'm checking on this also this morning). Here's the body of several of the emails I've received on CPI adjustments:

BINGO - My amenities fee reach the magic $155 and were locked at $155 for at least three years. Now that they lifted the top stop it appears they are imposing the three year rolling CPI to catch up on the frozen period. To me that's akin to a retroactive law being passed - dirty pool !

That's like the IRS changing the tax brackets and applying the changes backwards 3 years and adding it to this years tax bill.

Definitely the rolling three year Oct 2018 to Oct 2021 was used. See my response in the above post #72. What designates when they use the 12 month or rolling 3 year CPI. How long will they use the rolling 3 year in my case ?

I just got my bil.l At first I thought my water usage was high by my tenant but looking closely my amenity went up about $21.00. To many The Villages is a utopia's ,any small negative talk about the Villages they look at you badly. The villages is not a cheap place to live and its not getting any better. Its a far cry from when old an Morse started the place. My understanding was Morse said you can buy a place in the sunshine play golf and able afford it off your social security check

It's my understanding Elvis performed at Brownwood last night.

dittos here

Damn! Missed him again!

I got a response from the Director of Finance this morning, but I had to get additional clarifications so I am not ready to put out the answer yet.

My monthly Villages CCD Utilities bill arrived today. Quick scan indicates a 7% increase over prior months. Increase was for Amenity Fee going from $156 to $168. Of course, no explanation. Anyone else spot this.

Read back through the posts in this thread to educate yourself. That increase is your normal annual increase, based on the increase of the Consumer Price Index. Expect it every year at this time.