Originally Posted by ALR5ALR (Post 779984)

the gate discussion has a variety of opinions,so I thought I'd throw mine into the hat....Stonecrest residence do use our our golf paths to other areas other than town sq.,they use our recreational facilities also , the people outside the Village know how to work the system, or what door to go in that's not supervised etc. I know someone that told me that about 15% of the people who play at her pickelball ct. are from outside the Villages. Now for Villagers who use that gate on the E. side I would suggest not to allow any one to follow you in after you've used your card, or if their waiting in a cart outside the gate and say they forgot their card,9 out of 10 their" tellin ya a story ". I actually don't want people riding free on my dime. ya"ll got the gate,now protect it.

Originally Posted by ALR5ALR (Post 779984)

the gate discussion has a variety of opinions,so I thought I'd throw mine into the hat....Stonecrest residence do use our our golf paths to other areas other than town sq.,they use our recreational facilities also , the people outside the Village know how to work the system, or what door to go in that's not supervised etc. I know someone that told me that about 15% of the people who play at her pickelball ct. are from outside the Villages. Now for Villagers who use that gate on the E. side I would suggest not to allow any one to follow you in after you've used your card, or if their waiting in a cart outside the gate and say they forgot their card,9 out of 10 their" tellin ya a story ". I actually don't want people riding free on my dime. ya"ll got the gate,now protect it.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 780088)

Welcome to TOTV. You make some rather rash statements that I don't see how you can back up as fact.
-have you seen Stonecrest residence using the golf paths?(not sure why they would be on the golf courses)
-have you seen Stonecrest residece using our recreatioal facilities? (how did you know they were from Stonecrest)
-have you seen people from outside(how did you know they were from outside) sneak in an unsupervised door? etc. (specifically what else)
-The someone who told you about 15% of the players on the pickelball courts are from outside the villages, how did "they" come up with this figure?
(there are hundreds of pickleball players, 15% is an unbelievable number)

Originally Posted by ALR5ALR (Post 779984)

I know someone that told me that about 15% of the people who play at her pickelball ct. are from outside the Villages.

Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 780270)

Before we bought in TV we were considered "In area" Guest with a pass. We came into the pools many times without anyone checking our passes. (we had a resident with us)We go to our pool now and many times no one is there to check either. Doesn't seem that unlikely to me.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 780317)

I believe that your parents lived here and you lived very close. Now you are a resident.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 780332)

Could it possibly be that non residents using a pool is really not a big issue?

Originally Posted by Mr.Kris (Post 780338)

Probably doesn't matter that non-residents occasionally use the multi-modal paths or sneak into a rec center either.

I cannot find any evidence that the wall (now gone) or gate were put in place because of overcrowding.

But I whole heartedly agree that we must protect or borders to the north. Where will it end. First Stonecrest then Canada. Oh lord protect us from the loonies.

P.S. I feel I have the right to comment as a TV resident because I have put down my deposit and signed a rental agreement for April to December 2014.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 780332)

Could it possibly be that non residents using a pool is really not a big isssue?
I personally have seen folks turned away from the Bridgeport pool because they did not have passes, they waited while one member of their party went home and picked up all their passes. So, it does happe that ID's are checked.

Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 780369)

Sooooo, you are no ok with non-residents using OUR facilities?????
What's next, the multimodal paths?????

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 780370)

I don't understand your post.

And When we now go to Tall Trees pool, we are checked occasionally. At Odell family pool we were checked often.

I like that we are checked. It protects our amenities from the use of outsiders.

Originally Posted by barebones1191 (Post 727795)

America’s Friendliest City Just Became Unfriendly to its Neighbors! In a recent newspaper article regarding the “Berlin Wall” VHA President Gottschalk was quoted as saying “nonresidents had unfettered access, allowing them to travel in and out of our community and utilize our facilities paid for and maintained by Village residents.” I want to know what facilities he is talking about. I am unaware of any. If he is talking about the entertainment in the squares, nonresidents do help pay for those venues by spending their money in the Villages at restaurants, and other businesses. That can be the only thing he’s talking about. Walling off your neighbors will not stop your neighbors from visiting the Villages. It will only stop them from using their golf car to access the squares and the businesses. They can still use their automobiles to travel on public roads built with taxpayer dollars and adding to more congestion within the Villages. What a tradeoff is that? However, it could stop nonresidents from spending their money in the Villages and hurting all the businesses that need all the help they can get. Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.

Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 780369)

Sooooo, you are no ok with non-residents using OUR facilities?????
What's next, the multimodal paths?????

Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 780375)

I agree that it is good that we are checked. My point was to the post that maybe non residents using the pool was a non issue. I don't understand how it is an issue if people from "the outside" drive on our MM paths or drive over our bridge is bad, but using our pools is alright. If all this was such an issue, why not be sure to ALWAYS check IDs at ALL facilities.
In the meantime, we are outraged that there is abuse.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 780365)

Some of our Canadian residents may take exception to this.