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SpartanMark 01-13-2024 09:21 AM

About Togglers
 
If you use the Toggler be sure the "toggle" which goes into the wall is vertical when you tighten the screw. This will ensure a flat surface-to-surface bond. Others have used them through drywall alone and they seem to work but I preferred to use the stud because it made sense to me to have multiple layers behind the mount.

tophcfa 01-13-2024 09:31 AM

At $8.50 versus $3.30 per 8 foot stud (metal versus wood), why would anyone choose to use metal? I get that metal will last seemingly forever, but there are homes still in great shape that were built with wooden studs well before any of us were ever born. Is it a Florida thing because of termites?

Switter 01-13-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2289901)
What is the best hardware for anchoring something heavy into metal studs?

And what are the studs shaped like? Are they mini I-beams, or rectangular tubes?
Something else?

TIA

Depending on how heavy the thing you're hanging is they make a special drywall anchor. they are called "toggler." They sell them at Lowe's. They come in different sizes and each size has a different weight capacity. I used them to hang a 55 inch TV on the wall and they work great. check the required drillbit size before you leave the store. Mine required a half inch drillbit. Oh, and make sure you read the directions carefully. There's a very specific way to install them and you don't want to have to throw any away because they're expensive.

BTW, sorry for posting twice but I can't figure out how to delete a post on this site. I selected the edit/delete button but there is no delete button anywhere that I can see

Switter 01-13-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpartanMark (Post 2290669)
If you use the Toggler be sure the "toggle" which goes into the wall is vertical when you tighten the screw. This will ensure a flat surface-to-surface bond. Others have used them through drywall alone and they seem to work but I preferred to use the stud because it made sense to me to have multiple layers behind the mount.

I use these two and they work great. I also put them on the studs. Just be sure to read the directions and follow them carefully because there's a specific way to install them and they're kind of expensive if you mess one up. Finally, make sure you check the drillbit size on the box before you leave the store. The ones I used required a half inch drillbit which I didn't have so I had to make another trip.

I use mine to hang a 55 inch TV

Laker14 01-13-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2290673)
At $8.50 versus $3.30 per 8 foot stud (metal versus wood), why would anyone choose to use metal? I get that metal will last seemingly forever, but there are homes still in great shape that were built with wooden studs well before any of us were ever born. Is it a Florida thing because of termites?

I have been wondering the same thing.
Maybe I'll get used to hanging stuff on these walls, but so far my experience has been that it is much more difficult and tricky than working with wood studs.

I did a Google search on pros and cons of metal studs and one article said that metal was cheaper. When I searched the Home Depot site, metal was about 3 times the cost.

huge-pigeons 01-13-2024 11:54 AM

Use a Molly bolt, it doesn’t matter what kind of wall it is

villagetinker 01-13-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2290620)
My house was built two years ago. Are all the interior studs metal?

I have found a mixture of wood and metal studs. The metal ones are typically on outside walls, and tall walls, since these are straighter than wood studs. You will typically fine wood studs in the kitchen area to support the cabinetry.
I still use the small drill to get the exact center of the stud and also to confirm if it is metal or wood, the drill will stop for metal and continue in if it is wood.

Laker14 01-13-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2290727)
I have found a mixture of wood and metal studs. The metal ones are typically on outside walls, and tall walls, since these are straighter than wood studs. You will typically fine wood studs in the kitchen area to support the cabinetry.
I still use the small drill to get the exact center of the stud and also to confirm if it is metal or wood, the drill will stop for metal and continue in if it is wood.

Before I realized they were metal studs I was popping through the "skin" of the metal and it felt like I had missed the stud altogether.

I identified the stud by finding the nails with a row of magnets, and test drilled, but kept popping through. I was totally mystified. Then when I realized there were metal studs in the wall, I didn't realize the studs were open on one side. I wanted to rip the entire wall of sheet rock off so I could see what the heck was going on. Fortunately I just put my toys down and walked away and let my cooler head take over.

Now, as for the outside walls (from the inside), in a block and stucco construction, my understanding is there might not be any studs. Is that possible?

villagetinker 01-13-2024 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2290778)
Before I realized they were metal studs I was popping through the "skin" of the metal and it felt like I had missed the stud altogether.

I identified the stud by finding the nails with a row of magnets, and test drilled, but kept popping through. I was totally mystified. Then when I realized there were metal studs in the wall, I didn't realize the studs were open on one side. I wanted to rip the entire wall of sheet rock off so I could see what the heck was going on. Fortunately I just put my toys down and walked away and let my cooler head take over.

Now, as for the outside walls (from the inside), in a block and stucco construction, my understanding is there might not be any studs. Is that possible?

Our house a 2013 vintage Designer has studs on the outside walls, but I have heard of other options. NOTE there needs to be sufficient clearance for wiring , electrical outlets, etc., as these are typically not installed inside the block walls.

If your house is less than 10 years old you may still be able to get the original house plans from Sumter County building department, these are very handy.

Laker14 01-13-2024 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2290813)
Our house a 2013 vintage Designer has studs on the outside walls, but I have heard of other options. NOTE there needs to be sufficient clearance for wiring , electrical outlets, etc., as these are typically not installed inside the block walls.

If your house is less than 10 years old you may still be able to get the original house plans from Sumter County building department, these are very handy.

ours was built in 2006.

dougawhite 01-13-2024 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2290778)
Now, as for the outside walls (from the inside), in a block and stucco construction, my understanding is there might not be any studs. Is that possible?

Might be just thick furring strips, instead of full 2x3, especially on an addition or enclosed lanai.

photo1902 01-13-2024 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2290778)
Before I realized they were metal studs I was popping through the "skin" of the metal and it felt like I had missed the stud altogether.

I identified the stud by finding the nails with a row of magnets, and test drilled, but kept popping through. I was totally mystified. Then when I realized there were metal studs in the wall, I didn't realize the studs were open on one side. I wanted to rip the entire wall of sheet rock off so I could see what the heck was going on. Fortunately I just put my toys down and walked away and let my cooler head take over.

Now, as for the outside walls (from the inside), in a block and stucco construction, my understanding is there might not be any studs. Is that possible?

Block walls will have furring strips. You can run conduit through them, it’s just more of a challenge but a fish tape can help. If you’re using a PowerBridge kit to hide tv power wires, HDMI, etc, they make a shallow wall box just for this situation.

Topspinmo 01-13-2024 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switter (Post 2290683)
Depending on how heavy the thing you're hanging is they make a special drywall anchor. they are called "toggler." They sell them at Lowe's. They come in different sizes and each size has a different weight capacity. I used them to hang a 55 inch TV on the wall and they work great. check the required drillbit size before you leave the store. Mine required a half inch drillbit. Oh, and make sure you read the directions carefully. There's a very specific way to install them and you don't want to have to throw any away because they're expensive.

BTW, sorry for posting twice but I can't figure out how to delete a post on this site. I selected the edit/delete button but there is no delete button anywhere that I can see


You can’t delete post only edit and erase and put in at least 3 characters after you erase. example /// !!! PPP.

Topspinmo 01-13-2024 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2290698)
I have been wondering the same thing.
Maybe I'll get used to hanging stuff on these walls, but so far my experience has been that it is much more difficult and tricky than working with wood studs.

I did a Google search on pros and cons of metal studs and one article said that metal was cheaper. When I searched the Home Depot site, metal was about 3 times the cost.


Probably don’t get contractors discount or bulk ordering?

Ignatz 01-26-2024 08:37 AM

Are the new houses being built with wood or metal studs?

I'm getting ready to hang our TV's, but I stumbled on this thread and it made me wonder what I'm up against.

I ran my stud finder across a couple of the walls, and it wasn't giving me the results I was expecting (greater than 16" centers).

My next step was to get a new battery for the stud finder today.


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