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Old 08-12-2017, 08:15 PM
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I will be at the meeting for sure. I applaud Angie and Oren and their host of helpers that are actually out there "doing something". It's easy for the rest of us to sit in our cozy chairs and question their tactics and reasoning. If one of my pets ever got out, I'd be thanking God we have these angels around and their procedures and plans in place. In the meantime, till I can go out and be of help searching and talking to people, I will certainly attend any meeting they ask me to. One persons pet prematurely killed is one too many for me.
I hope you understand that I am trying to figure out if this outcry can change things. Has this kind of tactic worked in other areas? I am certainly not doubting that things can be improved. People being angry at meetings rarely effect change.

And I do love animals. They are members of our family and I do understand being terribly frightened if they should go missing.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:19 PM
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I hope you understand that I am trying to figure out if this outcry can change things. Has this kind of tactic worked in other areas? I am certainly not doubting that things can be improved. People being angry at meetings rarely effect change.

And I do love animals. They are members of our family and I do understand being terribly frightened if they should go missing.
We can only give it a try. To do nothing would be sad and lazy. I will go for all the poor animals that just get "put to sleep" because it's easier.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:22 PM
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We can only give it a try. To do nothing would be sad and lazy. I will go for all the poor animals that just get "put to sleep" because it's easier.
I understand your anguish. I just read this from Peta. I would be at a meeting that was for raising money for neutering.

The Deadly Consequences of 'No-Kill' Policies | PETA
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:32 PM
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I understand your anguish. I just read this from Peta. I would be at a meeting that was for raising money for neutering.

The Deadly Consequences of 'No-Kill' Policies | PETA
If you REALLY did your homework, you would know that is what No Kill does.

*sigh*

And yes...No Kill works. It works in Gainsville, It works in Jacksonville, and it works in Lake County.

Please take a minute and read what people have responded to you.

And what do you mean by "snowflake"?
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Old 08-13-2017, 04:54 AM
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We ARE supporting the Humane Society and THEY ARE supporting us.

The issue is they are killing 32% of dogs and cats every month. If one of YOUR cats gets out and they pick it up.... You have three days to claim it, before it would be killed. Often times they don't even get a photo out in time.

Only three days in Sumter County to find your pet. You better be there EVERY day... AND you can't just go there. You have to go to the Humane Society to have someone take you over to Animal Services.

Because of this situation, if someone finds a pet in Sumter County they will often times drive to Lake county and call that county, who is already a successful No Kill Shelter, to come and get it so it will not be killed.

Because Lake County is getting many of our animals, it does two things. One, you won't know to go to Lake County to find your pet and two, they are handling two counties instead of their one. Therefore... Lake county is ALSO supporting us.

Now... to why WE got involved.

I run Lost Pets of The Villages. If you lose a pet I will do everything in my power to help you get it back, including going to your hood and talking to as many people that I can to get more eyes looking for your pet. I will tell you what has worked in the past for other owners and blast out in social media, calling the radio station and Community Watch. to find your beloved pet.

If you find a pet, I will come to your home and scan the pet, and do everything in my power to find the owner. Including going door to door and driving around the hood to find them, blasting out on social media, calling the radio station and Community Watch.

Because people don't know how to find their pets, I also post on PetHarbor and Craigslist for you as well as letting the appropriate county know about the lost or found pet.

I do this so that YOUR pet doesn't go to Animal Services. I do it as fast as I can, in case your pet is old and needs meds. Understand, if your pet is old and needs meds... that pet will not make it out of Animal Services. So, if you want a cheap way to kill your pet... Don't call me.

Back to my story.

On July 11, 2017, Sumter County sent a change to the SOP that going forward Community Watch was not to call me but to call Animal Services to come and pick up YOUR pet to take to the shelter.

As for Lake and Marion counties, I could still be called, but NOT Sumter. BTW... what county do you live in?

Long story short, I called the county and requested a change. I came up with several solutions for a fighting chance to save our pets and all were rejected.

Now, we will continue the process of changing our Animal Services to a No Kill Shelter.

This is an elderly community. People do not know how to look for their pets. Some don't have the means to travel to the shelter, and why should they if I can get the pet back?

As the "number of animals allegedly killed by this shelter". Those number are THEIR numbers. Although,I'm told they are not correct. Since there is no transparency, there is no way to know.

A No Kill shelter will help keep the Feral cats down, buy doing a TNR, Trap Neuter and release, which doesn't appear we have in this County. We need the feral cats to keep the rats and mice down. Many cities ie. New York are using them for just that purpose.

In the almost two years that I have been doing this, I have learned that the dog or cat that you think is a mongrel... is oftentimes someone's beloved pet.

I do not get any money for this. I do it because I care.

For all of those who are supporting us in this effort, THANK YOU

Angie Fox
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angiefox: I admire what you do and I admire you for your concern. I too am against animal cruelty.

However the narrative that you share leaves me with the impression that the supply of pets exceeds demands and the situation is getting out of hand. To wit you state the shelter is killing 32% of animals a month. You state that an owner has only 3 days to claim their pet.

It seems doubtful that people who work at animal shelters euthanize pets just for the kick of it. it would seem that they have a bona fide purpose for doing so.

Love cause people to lose objectivity whether its children or animals . Parents/owners expectations of what should be tolerated vis a vis others is incongruent

Perhaps there is a compromise and by your tone of concern and your interest I'll wager you will find one.

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Old 08-13-2017, 07:42 AM
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Jeez. The lady is just asking like minded people to attend a meeting. Why is it necessary to put her through an inquisition?
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:03 AM
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Jeez. The lady is just asking like minded people to attend a meeting. Why is it necessary to put her through an inquisition?
I may be there. We will see. I will be there in spirit if not body.
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:03 AM
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angiefox: I admire what you do and I admire you for your concern. I too am against animal cruelty.

However the narrative that you share leaves me with the impression that the supply of pets exceeds demands and the situation is getting out of hand. To wit you state the shelter is killing 32% of animals a month. You state that an owner has only 3 days to claim their pet.

It seems doubtful that people who work at animal shelters euthanize pets just for the kick of it. it would seem that they have a bona fide purpose for doing so.

Love cause people to lose objectivity whether its children or animals . Parents/owners expectations of what should be tolerated vis a vis others is incongruent

Perhaps there is a compromise and by your tone of concern and your interest I'll wager you will find one.

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To your point. If there are empty kennels and they are killing animals. Doesn't that seem odd to you? Does it appear that there are too many animals if they have empty kennels. To be honest, I thought the same thing. I thought that maybe they were full and had to make room. That doesn't seem to be the case as they have actually told me they have empty kennels.

Can you tell me why no one is allowed to take pictures inside the facility? I've been told they will take your camera if you try. Why not?

If there are too many animals in the shelter, why wouldn't they want people to help find the owners and keep the animal count down? It would save the county money and manpower to not have to come and get the found pets. I know, just my gas bill is high and I live in The Villages. They have to send someone out from the facility to The Villages to get our pets and take them back when we can get them back to the owners without it. Does it make sense to you?

Someone suggested that the call was going to just me. Lost Pets of The Villages is a community of 1,400 strong and growing. This is the number of people who are working every day to get our pets back to the owners and keep them out of the shelters. The group consists of the cat group, birds, dogs, and wildlife.

I hope that people would educate themselves about No Kill. Right now, what we have is a High Kill shelter. That means that they kill according to the number of days... It doesn't have anything to do with the health or age of the animal.

A No Kill doesn't mean that they never have to put down an animal. It means they will have a reason to do so. Now, they don't. They can and do just kill for the sake of killing.



If they can't kill the animals, they would have to get more active in finding the owners. Now they kill according to days.... They make no effort to find the owner. Often times there isn't even a photo of the pet posted before it's killed.

Most people here don't know where to find their pets if they are lost. This is why I founded Lost Pets of The Villages.

Because Sumter County is High Kill, if you lose your pet, you will have to go to three county shelters to look for your pet. This is because people who know about Sumter County High Kill policy will drive a pet to another county and call them to come and get them keep your pet alive.

In a No Kill Nation, they spay/neuter all animals that come through the facility. They offer spay and neuter to residents at a low cost. In a few short years they have brought down the over population of animals in the cities that are working the program.

A true No Kill shelter has to go through 11 or 12 steps to make it work. But it does work.

I actually come from an area that is and has been no kill for years. The community is very involved in the shelter and very active in making it work.

Last week I went to Lake County Shelter, which is a No Kill, they were very happy about it. They told me it works. It was a very active shelter. I was able to walk around and look at the animals without an escort and take photos. Such a difference. So many volenteers and people coming in to adopt.

I will leave you with this.


http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/...81/calclrr.pdf
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:04 AM
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I am forwarding this information for the awareness of our community. Many Villagers are not aware that our tax dollars support a kill shelter. Sumter County Animal Services is a kill shelter.....not much of a shelter! Your presence at a meeting is important for the commissioners to be aware that people here want this changed! Please pass on this information and attend the meeting.

Here is the message:
"I need help! On August 22, I am speaking in front of the Sumter County Board of Commissioners at 5:00 p.m. at Colony Cottage Recreation Center. The more animal lovers we have in the room will help to make them take us seriously and do something to change the practice. Large numbers speak volumes.

I am going to ask the Sumter County Animal Services to implement several plans that go toward changing Sumter County Animal Services from a high kill to a no kill service. I am going to show them, with their own numbers, how deplorable their numbers are for animals that come into their control.

I want to stop them from killing 33% of the animals that come into their shelter. PLEASE take this request seriously. Please show up for this meeting. I , as well as others work to get pets returned to owners, but we all need your help! We cannot do this alone. You do not have to live in The Villages to attend.

Put it on your calendar....TUESDAY, AUGUST 22 at 5:00 p. m. at
Colony Cottage Receeation Center."

Oren Miloer

Colony Cottage is just off Morse just south of 466A near Colony Plaza. Please attend! Thank you!
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:05 AM
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You are right as usual, Rapscallion.
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