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golfing eagles 02-10-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1183859)
I miss Doug's fish fry:mmmm:

Me too!!!! They even had lobster on occasion:mmmm:

TNLAKEPANDA 02-10-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1183621)
Sorry to disagree, but.....
The vehicle in a lane, in this case the cart lane to the right of cars, has a right to that lane until such time as he has passed you, or you have passed him far enough to safely cross that lane. The same is true of a bicycle in that lane. There is no "pecking order"---trucks trump cars, cars trump carts, carts trump bicycles, etc.

I agree with you in principle and I always double check before turning right. However there is a very large blind spot with carts on your right. It would be wise for the cart to pay close attention to cars and rather than just motoring on down the road. Amazingly there are very few accidents here in the Villages considering all the cars and carts and bicycles. And that's a good thing!

golfing eagles 02-10-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 1183879)
I agree with you in principle and I always double check before turning right. However there is a very large blind spot with carts on your right. It would be wise for the cart to pay close attention to cars and rather than just motoring on down the road. Amazingly there are very few accidents here in the Villages considering all the cars and carts and bicycles. And that's a good thing!

Everybody should be double checking and aware of their surroundings. That's just common sense. But a blind spot is a reality of driving, it is not really an excuse. Remember a cart is a lot larger than a 3 year old kid, and no one wants to tell the grieving parents "He was in my bind spot".

Arctic Fox 02-10-2016 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy and al (Post 1183869)
The road signs at the corner of Morse and San Marino clearly show that the golf cart has the right of way. Why??? Don't know but would entertain the possibility of changing this so that the auto driver has the right of way. Golf cart drivers--please--no nasty comments. Thanks

The right-of-way for the inside vehicle here is no different to what it would be anywhere else.

If, on a normal road, you are in a car and pass a cyclist, you would not expect to just turn right across his path. You would either ensure that you were far enough ahead to not affect his progress or you would slow down and wait until he had passed you.

This is meant to be a golf-cart friendly community; not one just designed for car-drivers to get where they want to go as fast and as unimpeded as possible.

kathy and al 02-10-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1183912)
The right-of-way for the inside vehicle here is no different to what it would be anywhere else.

If, on a normal road, you are in a car and pass a cyclist, you would not expect to just turn right across his path. You would either ensure that you were far enough ahead to not affect his progress or you would slow down and wait until he had passed you.

This is meant to be a golf-cart friendly community; not one just designed for car-drivers to get where they want to go as fast and as unimpeded as possible.

Your point is well taken.

SCasey 02-10-2016 09:37 AM

I bet seat belts would have prevented the broken ribs.

RickeyD 02-10-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SCasey (Post 1183930)
I bet seat belts would have prevented the broken ribs.


I'm also thinking a rollcage & seat belts might be worth the investment.

autumnspring 02-10-2016 10:05 AM

I'm not pro regulation BUT
In my view the golf carts should have some form of ID-plates?
The LAW is that to drive a cart without plates means it is speed restricted to 20 mph.
I am often passed by carts doing at least 25-30. THEY ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO DO 15 MPH. You only have brakes on the rear wheels.
There are some interesting drivers here. Turn signals are to signal you intend to make a turn-USE THEM. Follow the LAW. Stopping in the middle of the road to BS is common but is STUPID-you can cause an accident-PULL OFF THE ROAD.

bagboy 02-10-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1183938)
I'm not pro regulation BUT
In my view the golf carts should have some form of ID-plates?
The LAW is that to drive a cart without plates means it is speed restricted to 20 mph.
I am often passed by carts doing at least 25-30. THEY ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO DO 15 MPH. You only have brakes on the rear wheels.
There are some interesting drivers here. Turn signals are to signal you intend to make a turn-USE THEM. Follow the LAW. Stopping in the middle of the road to BS is common but is STUPID-you can cause an accident-PULL OFF THE ROAD.

So if everyone had an ID tag on their cart, all laws would be obeyed and there would be no accidents?

justjim 02-10-2016 10:47 AM

When I'm driving my car, I always yield to a Semi Truck or a Bus. A golf cart driver should yield to a car for common sense reason--anything else doesn't make common sense to me .

autumnspring 02-10-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1183944)
So if everyone had an ID tag on their cart, all laws would be obeyed and there would be no accidents?

Of course not.
But, the intention of any law is to make things safer. By your comment-how much fast than the 20 mph LEGAL LIMIT do you go.
Aside-if two golf carts hit each other at 20mph the impact is not 20mph IT IS 40 MPH.

golfing eagles 02-10-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1183956)
Of course not.
But, the intention of any law is to make things safer. By your comment-how much fast than the 20 mph LEGAL LIMIT do you go.
Aside-if two golf carts hit each other at 20mph the impact is not 20mph IT IS 40 MPH.

Only if head on. But get hit by a car that weighs 10 times as much and the momentum is that much greater.
The problem with ID tags is that it prevents nothing, like Judge Judy says, "You can't fix stupid" It creates a whole new layer of regulation and bureaucracy, and only helps to identify someone who intends to flee the scene, which is rare.

bagboy 02-10-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1183956)
Of course not.
But, the intention of any law is to make things safer. By your comment-how much fast than the 20 mph LEGAL LIMIT do you go.
Aside-if two golf carts hit each other at 20mph the impact is not 20mph IT IS 40 MPH.

My golf cart is adjusted to 20 mph.

Rapscallion St Croix 02-10-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1183956)
Of course not.
But, the intention of any law is to make things safer. By your comment-how much fast than the 20 mph LEGAL LIMIT do you go.
Aside-if two golf carts hit each other at 20mph the impact is not 20mph IT IS 40 MPH.

It doesn't work that way. What you get is the equivalent of hitting a solid wall at 20MPH.

Polar Bear 02-10-2016 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1183988)
It doesn't work that way. What you get is the equivalent of hitting a solid wall at 20MPH.

Sorry, but that's not right. It does work that way. I know what you mean about a solid wall...there's less energy absorption than a more collapsible vehicle. But it doesn't change the fact that...

When two vehicles collide, it's the RELATIVE speed that determines the severity of the impact. If two vehicles collide head-on, each going 20 MPH, it is the equivalent of a 40 MPH collision.

Consider this, if you're traveling along going 20 MPH, and you hit the vehicle ahead of you, which is going in the same direction at 19 MPH, the collision is not that significant. Because the relative speed (differential) is only 1 MPH.


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