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tedquick 12-13-2023 10:35 AM

Thank you!
 
OP, thank you for posting. Many of us see your post as an excellent reminder that we can never be too careful. Whether the fire was caused by a loose gas cap, a propane heater or something else, I appreciate the "reminder" that we should all be careful and thoughtful, whether we're dealing with a gas cart or an electric cart. Thanks, again and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

RobertWR 12-13-2023 10:37 AM

The fire department was not able to make a determination. My insurance company did not investigate since it was a small claim and no loss of life and no major property damage. I contacted Yamaha several times and did not receive a call back.

I feel fortunate this did not happen after we came home and parked in the garage. I might not be here today.

My advice would be to install a heat sensor on your garage ceiling. They are under $20 on Amazon. Many of my friends and neighbors have done this.

fdpaq0580 12-13-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWR (Post 2282139)
I am the owner of the gas Yamaha golf car that caught fire in Brownwood on September 30. The gas tank was filled 6 days before this incident and very particular of how I take care of my vehicles. This includes how I secure a gas cap after putting gas in my golf car.

margaretmattson is making false comments spreading rumors and is an idiot for doing so.

Passing along hearsay often gives incorrect information. But in this case it was meant to advise us to be careful and mindful of the things we do that carry some risk.
Margaretmattson meant well and brought the potential dangers of owning/operating a golf cart to TOTV. Thanks Margaret.
As for RobertWR, he claims ownership of said cart, but does not correct any misinformation, leaves us none the wiser and insults the OP. Thanks for nothing, Rob. And a bah humbug to you.

Bill14564 12-13-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWR (Post 2282175)
The fire department was not able to make a determination. My insurance company did not investigate since it was a small claim and no loss of life and no major property damage. I contacted Yamaha several times and did not receive a call back.

I feel fortunate this did not happen after we came home and parked in the garage. I might not be here today.

My advice would be to install a heat sensor on your garage ceiling. They are under $20 on Amazon. Many of my friends and neighbors have done this.

Thank you for this and for countering the misinformation.

Fenster 12-13-2023 10:58 AM

Thank you
 
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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2281938)
Why are people attacking the OP for posting a relevant story. If a cart fire doesn’t interest you then don’t click the thread. She didn’t post clickbait. I for one think it’s a great reminder. I’ve left my car’s gas cap off by mistake. I could see it happening in the cart. Unfortunately the cart fill nozzle is in the engine compartment.

This post is a good reminder as leaving it off in a cart can have much more serious consequences.

Thanks for posting this.

Totally agree. The OP performed a public service.

Nellmack 12-13-2023 11:09 AM

Wow, someone's trying to help out a neighbor and they're picked on. Not very neighborly or polite.

Topspinmo 12-13-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2282042)
I thought only battery powered carts burned according to the EV haters? Oh but wait, the three cart fires this year were all gasoline powered. Hmmm. I bet they were also Yamahas.


One on Morse was said to be star cart.

Fuzzyjourneyfan 12-13-2023 11:31 AM

Fire
 
Ignore the crabby people. This is great information. Thank you for sharing.

Topspinmo 12-13-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWR (Post 2282175)
The fire department was not able to make a determination. My insurance company did not investigate since it was a small claim and no loss of life and no major property damage. I contacted Yamaha several times and did not receive a call back.

I feel fortunate this did not happen after we came home and parked in the garage. I might not be here today.

My advice would be to install a heat sensor on your garage ceiling. They are under $20 on Amazon. Many of my friends and neighbors have done this.

I suspect/guess dead short from wire hot off battery? Original equipment or aftermarket add on? Vibration causes things to shake and let’s face it gas golf cart vibrates like old ringer washing machine. Wise to look for loose wires and wires rubbing against metal. Or it could have just be failure of electrical components wire directly to battery. Really only few things that can cause fire, electrical short or gas fumes ignition? Gas vehicles have been blazing since model T From failures, neglect, and collisions.

As tinker pointed out most Yamaha gas golf carts have over charging problem? A factor or not who knows?

juddfl 12-13-2023 11:34 AM

Yes, it was fortunate the cart was not in your garage. Then it would have been a very sad story. Thank goodness you are OK. Enjoy your holiday because you were very lucky. I have a sensor in my garage and now I can say that I'm happy that I have it. Happy New Year.

asianthree 12-13-2023 11:48 AM

OP posted that the owner just filled the golf cart, didn’t tighten the gas cap, gas ran onto the engine starting a fire.

Then owner posted that was not what happened, had been 6 days since fill up, and alway checks cap, fire wasn’t investigated, so no official cause of how fire started.

It’s definitely conflicting information, unless OP is talking about a different cart, that was invested and proven as a loose gas cap that caused the fire. Then again, if there is nothing left of the cart, how does one predict cause of fire. Not an adjuster, and have zero knowledge of what would have ignited the fire. Just seems that because gas leaks on the engine there still has to be a spark to cause fire

Topspinmo 12-13-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2282201)
OP posted that the owner just filled the golf cart, didn’t tighten the gas cap, gas ran onto the engine starting a fire.

Then owner posted that was not what happened, had been 6 days since fill up, and alway checks cap, fire wasn’t investigated, so no official cause of how fire started.

It’s definitely conflicting information, unless OP is talking about a different cart, that was invested and proven as a loose gas cap that caused the fire. Then again, if there is nothing left of the cart, how does one predict cause of fire. Not an adjuster, and have zero knowledge of what would have ignited the fire. Just seems that because gas leaks on the engine there still has to be a spark to cause fire


Or hot wire short?

jimjamuser 12-13-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2281920)
The reason for the post is to discuss how carts catch on fire. The one in Brownwood was due to an error the owner made. If the cap was screwed on tightly, the cart would not have caught on fire. I think it is important to send this message: Make sure you secure your tank cap tightly. If it saves only one person, I did a good deed.

I have no idea how the cart in LSL caught on fire. If it was owner error wouldn't you want to know the facts? This way, you can make certain it does not happen to you.

Thank you for pointing out that gasoline can be dangerous. That does a good service to the community to make and keep people aware of potential danger. People that say, "so what?" just want to PRETEND that gas golf carts are perfectly safe. They don't want to be reminded that their golf cart could catch fire while it is parked in their garage.
Many people also want to believe that gas carts are SAFER than E-carts. And they want to PRETEND that gas carts do not produce pollution. And, of course, many gas golf cart owners WILL NOT make ANY connection to climate change.

margaretmattson 12-13-2023 12:47 PM

Thank you for responding. I heard the story from a shop owner in Brownwood. She stated she heard firemen discussing a loose cap as the likely cause while they were on site.

My post stated if anyone knows different please post. Your information was valuable. Thank you!

Bogie Shooter 12-13-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2282226)
Thank you for responding. I heard the story from a shop owner in Brownwood. She stated she heard firemen discussing a loose cap as the likely cause while they were on site.

My post stated if anyone knows different please post. Your information was valuable. Thank you!

And there you have it……the ultimate source for information.

margaretmattson 12-13-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2282229)
And there you have it……the ultimate source for information.

I was in Brownwood when the fire occurred. After the firemen left, people were asking if anyone was injured. A shop owner told us everything she witnessed and heard. She was a bit shaken and it is highly unlikely she made the story up,. However, she may have misunderstood what she heard from the firemen on site. This is the reason my post stated if anyone knows anything different, please post. As we all know, an official report of the cause is better than an eyewitness.

coffeebean 12-13-2023 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2281920)
The reason for the post is to discuss how carts catch on fire. The one in Brownwood was due to an error the owner made. If the cap was screwed on tightly, the cart would not have caught on fire. I think it is important to send this message: Make sure you secure your tank cap tightly. If it saves only one person, I did a good deed.

I have no idea how the cart in LSL caught on fire. If it was owner error wouldn't you want to know the facts? This way, you can make certain it does not happen to you.

Was this torched cart in LSL or Brownwood? Or.....are we talking about two different carts?

ElDiabloJoe 12-13-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2282223)
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Many people also want to believe that gas carts are SAFER than E-carts. And they want to PRETEND that gas carts do not produce pollution. And, of course, many gas golf cart owners WILL NOT make ANY connection to climate change.

Sometimes people get so invested (cash, emotion, investments, pride, etc.) they are blind to anything but their position - such as those blowing the E- trumpet.

By the way, interesting its being hailed now as "Climate Change" instead of the original and temp-charts-contradicting term, "Global Warming."

Bill14564 12-13-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2282254)
Sometimes people get so invested (cash, emotion, investments, pride, etc.) they are blind to anything but their position - such as those blowing the E- trumpet.

By the way, interesting its being hailed now as "Climate Change" instead of the original and temp-charts-contradicting term, "Global Warming."

"now?" The terms have both been used for many years though "climate change" became more prominent about 20 years ago. They are both correct though climate change is a bit more broad.

"temp-charts-contradicting?" Do we really need yet another thread to cover the same, familiar ground?

Dusty_Star 12-13-2023 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2282254)
Sometimes people get so invested (cash, emotion, investments, pride, etc.) they are blind to anything but their position - such as those blowing the E- trumpet.

By the way, interesting its being hailed now as "Climate Change" instead of the original and temp-charts-contradicting term, "Global Warming."

In the 1970s it was called global cooling. The more things change,....

kcrazorbackfan 12-13-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2281910)
And the point is?

Tighten your gas caps?

kcrazorbackfan 12-13-2023 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 2282093)
Please refrain from attacking posters, unwise tread will be deleted.

Hit them where it hurts - put them in time out for awhile where they can’t be keyboard warriors.

JMintzer 12-13-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2282303)
Hit them where it hurts - put them in time out for awhile where they can’t be keyboard warriors.

They only do that to "certain" posters... :o

jebartle 12-14-2023 03:09 AM

Glad no one was hurt!


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