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Wiotte 07-09-2017 10:39 PM

Possible that your compressor is tripping on overtemp. It is an auto reset, which would explain why it works when the tech arrives. Just my 3 cents.


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Chatbrat 07-11-2017 09:16 AM

Please let us know when th A/C is repaired and what the remedy was

DonH57 07-11-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1422552)
Possible that your compressor is tripping on overtemp. It is an auto reset, which would explain why it works when the tech arrives. Just my 3 cents.


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That is a possiblity since some compressors have a winding stat.

Nucky 07-11-2017 10:37 AM

EdFNJ: "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."

Ralph: "Now what does that mean?"

EdFNJ: "I don't know."

Ed Norton! This should help the Technician or a $Yard$ should condemn you A/C unit!

Rapscallion St Croix 07-11-2017 10:58 AM

I have had that problem before. Outside unit was freezing up. Called son-in-law, an HVAC guy who told me to change filter. Bingo.

EdFNJ 07-11-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1422552)
Possible that your compressor is tripping on overtemp. It is an auto reset, which would explain why it works when the tech arrives. Just my 3 cents.


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That's my bet as well. If it wasn't so hot and if my (garden) hose reached the back I'd remove the cover and clean the coils first.


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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1423049)
Please let us know when th A/C is repaired and what the remedy was

I hope I know myself (short of buying a new system). :)

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1423077)
EdFNJ: "I would say that by listening to that motor there that the amateor sprocket is causing interference which in turn causes the combustion line to interfere with the flow in the dynaflow."

Ralph: "Now what does that mean?"

EdFNJ: "I don't know."

Ed Norton! This should help the Technician or a $Yard$ should condemn you A/C unit!

Now THERE"S man who knows what he is saying!

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1423083)
I have had that problem before. Outside unit was freezing up. Called son-in-law, an HVAC guy who told me to change filter. Bingo.

Filter is new. Wish it were that simple. I think it's overheating just like the rest of us in this weather.

ggnlars 07-11-2017 11:57 AM

This is why I have a service contract with a HVAC company that specializes in the brand of the unit. All of these things that people are suggesting, are done two or three times a year depending on the plan. Additionally, critters love to nest in the compressor control unit. It is protected, warm when the nights are cool and the wire make for good eating until they get fried by a short. This last is not your issue now, but a solid tech would have already done all of the things that have been suggested and more, until the problem is solved. Fluky things happen with machines in the field. You hire the specialist to be able to fix what is necessary.
We close in August and that contract is high on my list to get in place.

Wiotte 07-11-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ggnlars (Post 1423103)
This is why I have a service contract with a HVAC company that specializes in the brand of the unit. All of these things that people are suggesting, are done two or three times a year depending on the plan. Additionally, critters love to nest in the compressor control unit. It is protected, warm when the nights are cool and the wire make for good eating until they get fried by a short. This last is not your issue now, but a solid tech would have already done all of the things that have been suggested and more, until the problem is solved. Fluky things happen with machines in the field. You hire the specialist to be able to fix what is necessary.
We close in August and that contract is high on my list to get in place.



"Specializes in the brand of the unit" All residential split units are essentially the same. What REALLY matters is the competency of the technician. Unfortunately not too many exist in the residential field. And when they do exist, quickly move from residential to commercial/industrial. That is a fact. The best you could hope for is a easy fix if and when it breaks.


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biker1 07-11-2017 10:14 PM

Since you are moving to Osceola Hills I assume you are buying a new home?? If so, the HVAC equipment will come with a 10 year parts/5 year labor warranty. To maintain the warranty, you will need to have an annual maintenance checkup. There is no need for more than one checkup per year and no need for a service contract.

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Originally Posted by ggnlars (Post 1423103)
This is why I have a service contract with a HVAC company that specializes in the brand of the unit. All of these things that people are suggesting, are done two or three times a year depending on the plan. Additionally, critters love to nest in the compressor control unit. It is protected, warm when the nights are cool and the wire make for good eating until they get fried by a short. This last is not your issue now, but a solid tech would have already done all of the things that have been suggested and more, until the problem is solved. Fluky things happen with machines in the field. You hire the specialist to be able to fix what is necessary.
We close in August and that contract is high on my list to get in place.


jeriteri 07-12-2017 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1422047)
Nope. Damn It just happened again. Noticed temp up to 81 while set at 76. Checked outside and inside. No frozen coil inside, fan still spinning outside but coolant pipe is warm. Weird part it just started working again about 45 minutes later.



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I think it's your drain is still plugged. If you have an air hose blow it out good again and then pour vinegar in it every week.

sail33or 07-12-2017 07:40 AM

Yes, it sounds exactly like the condensate has to build up (causing shutoff switch to close) then when condensate is high enough, it pushes out and the switch opens again. So condensate line is operating but must have some type of partial obstruction.

Chatbrat 07-12-2017 08:14 AM

I've ben told that besides the switch in the condensate line there might be a float switch in a pan--check that switch also

autumnspring 07-12-2017 08:57 AM

Suggestion
 
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1421930)
Any Jr. A/C diagnostic sleuths out there?

Here's the problem. Happens intermittently (last time was this morning at 2AM).

A/C stops cooling yet the compressor fan outside continues to run as if all is OK.

Here's what's been done so far:

New Capacitor
New Contactor
New Fan motor
Condensate drain is clear and drain switch tests OK.
Refrigerant is fine

Problem is, every time the repair guy comes out it is working again. It stops cooling usually for a couple hours at random times. Sometimes it can go for 2 weeks without issue then it happens again.

It's an 8+yr old Carrier unit that was part of the original construction (I'm 2nd owner). When it is working it cools perfectly so it isn't a refrigerant issue.

There is a home show on 96.5 FM 7am sunday morning.
You might try calling them. Of course have all the info you can available. Unit serial number, a list of what has been checked, replaced etc.

In your posts you have said you are considering replacing the unit. Ours is three years old installed by the builder.
Ours is 13 SEER-it is posted on the unit and I think that was the minimum that they could install at the time.
I did notice that at Fenny they are using 15 SEER. The difference is 13%. Would you save 13% in your heating and cooling costs? That might be an interesting question to ask.

As you well know an intermittent problem is the most difficult one to find.

EdFNJ 07-12-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeriteri (Post 1423368)
I think it's your drain is still plugged. If you have an air hose blow it out good again and then pour vinegar in it every week.

Been there don't that. Also tested the shutoff switch on the drain. When system WAS NOT functioning switch was showing properly opened circuit. Also tested continuity across switch and that too is properly functioning. Also high pressure hosed through drain and it is completely clear.

EdFNJ 07-12-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1423425)
There is a home show on 96.5 FM 7am sunday morning.
You might try calling them. Of course have all the info you can available. Unit serial number, a list of what has been checked, replaced etc.

In your posts you have said you are considering replacing the unit. Ours is three years old installed by the builder.
Ours is 13 SEER-it is posted on the unit and I think that was the minimum that they could install at the time.
I did notice that at Fenny they are using 15 SEER. The difference is 13%. Would you save 13% in your heating and cooling costs? That might be an interesting question to ask.

As you well know an intermittent problem is the most difficult one to find.


Thanks ..... we are 2nd owners of this home and ours is the original unit (9 yrs old) and is 13 seer which I believe is (was?) the minimum code requirement.

Electricity rates are relatively low here so that saving VERY optimistically 15% would be around $20 month so considering probably close to $1000 difference in equipment cost it would take probably ~5 years to amortize so it's probably worth it from that point assuming I want the larger out of pocket expense.


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