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Vermilion Villager 11-10-2021 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyers999 (Post 2027702)
I purchased a 2012 Yamaha 48-v YRDE electric five years ago when my wife and I moved to The Villages. I bought it from a person on craigslist. It needed a dashboard and enclosure, which I bought from The Villages Golf carts in Spanish Springs. Total I paid $4k. Last year, I replaced the batteries(Motive), which I bought, again from the same place(TV Golf Carts) for $1000. I’m able to play any golf course North of 466A, so I’m going to stick with the electric; for now, I’m happy paying $1k every four years for batteries. I should mention that I only use the cart for golf, if I used it for everyday errands I would get a gas cart with metal/glass doors.

There’s no right answer here. As mentioned, the gas carts are smelly, noisy and they need period maintenance that any gas engine needs, i.e., change oil, sparkplugs, etc. There’s no such thing as a quiet gas engine. Ever hear of a quiet motorcycle or gas lawn mower? Many of the Villages cart paths go near homes. How would you like for a motorcycle to pass next to your back yard every three minutes? Even the aforementioned Yamaha Quiet-tech is not as quiet as an electric cart. And all of them get louder the older they get.

As far as the environment, 80% of a Lead-Acid battery is recycled.
Lead-Acid Battery Recycling: What You Need to Know - CJD E-Cycling
The same can’t be said for a Lithium battery. On the other hand, a Lithium battery lasts longer so fewer of them are disposed of every year.

Another country heard from. :blahblahblah:
You absolutely CAN recycle Lithium batteries!!!
Sustainability | Tesla

JMintzer 11-10-2021 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2027706)
You absolutely CAN recycle Lithium batteries!!!
Sustainability | Tesla
According to "non-Tesla" sources, Tesla recycles about 60% of the battery...

kkingston57 11-10-2021 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2027666)
Forgot to mention...................You get to slam the doors twice per golf shot!!!!! LOVELY!!!!
Agree, except for at or near a green. Then you get at two or more shots for two slams. I have seen guys take 6-7 shots around greens, particularly bad bunker players.

Vermilion Villager 11-10-2021 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2027715)
According to "non-Tesla" sources, Tesla recycles about 60% of the battery...
I noticed you forgot to name the "non-Tesla" sources.....Did you hit the reply button too soon????

JMintzer 11-10-2021 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2027723)
I noticed you forgot to name the "non-Tesla" sources.....Did you hit the reply button too soon????
Happy?

What Does Tesla Do With Old Batteries?

jojo 11-10-2021 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JTLoehnert (Post 2027507)
In Amelia too and also from Columbus. What part? I have an Evolution lithium cart, love it.
Not sure if you are referring to my post. We lived in Upper Arlington for 37 years.

dewilson58 11-10-2021 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2027717)
Agree, except for at or near a green. Then you get at two or more shots for two slams. I have seen guys take 6-7 shots around greens, particularly bad bunker players.
Let's not even mention if there are two golfers in one of those tin cans.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa 11-10-2021 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2027462)
If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else
If I want all that, I will drive my truck. If I want a golf cart experience, I will take the Yamaha. And as Dewi pointed out, I don’t want to open and close a door for each golf shot.

brooksey649 11-10-2021 08:38 PM
Lithium
 
Check out the Evolution, Great price. Great warranty

EdFNJ 11-10-2021 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2027354)
I have an electric with lithium. It has over 9000 miles and 2 1/2 years on it. I got 65-70 miles per charge on day 1 (a little less with heat or air cond running) and still get 65-70 per charge almost 3 years later (zero battery degradation). As for "time to charge" I plug it in once every 5-6 days at night and by morning it is fully charged. The charger is built in (like a Tesla :) ) and I just plug it in to the wall. No fuss, no need to go to a gas station or dump gas from a gas can,

My only suggestion is, **IF** you choose to get electric **ONLY** get lithium.
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Originally Posted by Travelhunter123 (Post 2027462)
If you are going to go electric, check out the Atomic golf carts
They are;
Air Conditioned
Heated
Much more leg room
Adjustable seats
Windshield wipers and washer
Sirius XM Radio
Back up camera
Real headlights
Street legal
And much more
Similar price to Yamaha and Ezgo
I love mine would never get anything else
If you had noticed the "clues" in my post (heat and AC) you would know that is what I have. Actually it is my second one and have had them since they came to T.V. but even they have downsides the main one being they are ONLY game in town should something happen to them. If they are gone you are on your own. There likely isn't another place in the country AFAIK that sells or services "ATOMIC carts" (which are really Chinese street vehicles).. You can of course buy them yourself from Aliexpress.com for about 1/4 of the price if you want to buy 4 at a time, pay for shipping, import duty and pick them up at a port sonewhere on the east coast. If you search that site you will see ALL the vehicles they have sold in the past and that they sell now (and are NOT called ATOMIC.

DaleDivine 11-10-2021 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2027354)
I have an electric with lithium. It has over 9000 miles and 2 1/2 years on it. I got 65-70 miles per charge on day 1 (a little less with heat or air cond running) and still get 65-70 per charge almost 3 years later (zero battery degradation). As for "time to charge" I plug it in once every 5-6 days at night and by morning it is fully charged. The charger is built in (like a Tesla :) ) and I just plug it in to the wall. No fuss, no need to go to a gas station or dump gas from a gas can,

My only suggestion is, **IF** you choose to get electric **ONLY** get lithium.
You only plug it in every 5-6 days and can still get 65 miles? that's pretty good.
:bigbow::bigbow:

dewilson58 11-11-2021 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2028018)
In addition to that, China is a country with slave labor that has stolen our top secret data for decades in order to directly compete with Americans in technology and to build their military to a point where they are threatening us.

If you support China over American, you have more than golf carts to think about. You probably buy from Amazon over the Mom & Pop down the road because the "convenience" to you, so you support a multi-billionaire over a family trying to survive.
As you did, buying in The Villages.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

jrref 11-11-2021 09:45 AM
What do you search for to see the atomic car vehical on that web site?

I'm also concerned that there is only one dealer for Atomic Cars in the US but i got a chance to look at their operation and it appears to be a nice setup but you are right, anything can potentially happen.

I'm also a little concerned on the lack of technical information on the internet and DIY groups modifying and or maintaining this cart. I'm sure it's not terribly complicated but i would like to know the manufacturer so if anything did happen to the dealer we could get parts. My guess is there are not enough sold yet and they probably have a good track and maintenance record or we would probably be seeing lot's of posts.

All these carts have pro's and con's but it depends on your needs. For me i wanted safety and comfort becasue i'm using it as local vehicle as well as a golf cart.

kkingston57 11-11-2021 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tbrazie (Post 2027631)
We have the EVOLUTION electric with Li battery and love it. Check it out.
Test drove an Evolution. I am 6ft 2 inches tall. Accelerator pedal is too close to the seat. My leg is almost at a 90 degree angle to the pedal. Not comfortable for me. 1 year ago, witth Vilages accessories, it was less than 10K including tax.

EdFNJ 11-11-2021 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2027831)
You only plug it in every 5-6 days and can still get 65 miles? that's pretty good.
:bigbow::bigbow:
Correct. It's not really the "days" it's the miles because if I go 50 miles in one day then I would need a charge the next night but 99% of the time I do go 5-6 days. When I use HEAT or A/C it will be a bit less (the heater pulls a LOT more amps than the A/C) but I rarely use either. So comparing "apples to apples" as most electric carts have no heater or A/C 65 miles per charge is very accurate as I keep records of traveled miles between every charge. I could probably do another 5-6 miles but don't want to take the chance of running the battery all the way down to zero which would be the same for gas or electric because with either case you'd need 3rd party assistance. :) In 4 years I've only been stuck ONCE which was when the cart was 2 days old because I wanted to see how far I could go! It was 72 miles when it conked out. :)


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