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graciegirl 02-23-2012 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 457436)
Today I was driving around the square at Lake Sumter. We made it a practice to follow the law and always stop if someone is crossing the street.
I stopped to allow a very elderly couple cross and the car behind me started to blow her horn. After they crossed she drove up next to me, opened her passenger window and proceeded to scream at me for allowing them to cross and holding her up. She was almost out of control because I had stopped. I reminded her she probably would need the same consideration shortly and to be more thoughtful.
I looked at it as being sad for her since she obviously had lost touch with
the need to help others and apparently was living an angry life. :smiley:

Wouldn't you have just loved to have had my squirt gun?

jebartle 02-23-2012 05:35 AM

Roundabout on Buena Vista
 
on the way to Cane Garden, we encountered a lady in a car making a LEFT turn in roundabout. Sure hope there was NO accident involved...,.Yipsters!

another Linda 02-23-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by archerlc (Post 457457)
Does anyone know the details of the bicycle accident? If the bicycle made a mistake I'd like to avoid making the same mistake since I ride 5 times a week.

I have no details, only what I saw. The accident was on Morse and looked like the rider may have been going north and making a left turn onto maybe Carrera (south of San Marino anyway.) When we got there he was face down in the road and several people were trying to disentangle him from his twisted bike. Horrible!! I thought he was dead because he wasn't moving. In any case the paper said he was stable and in the hospital. Hope my prayers helped.

So, 2 left turn accidents off Morse. I'd love to see a Morse North recreation trail with tunnels and all, but I suppose that is unlikely. Not sure what we can do to enforce the speed limit. Speed bumps maybe?

downeaster 02-23-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Junebugs (Post 457414)
We were in a golf cart and had to pull into the roadway because of 2 men strolling in the golf cart lane. Fortunately, there was no car traffic so we could move to avoid them as they were walking towards us. They clearly had no intention of moving out of the lane. Is that the norm?



I don't know what the norm is. It is not a golf cart lane. It is a multi modal lane. In my book pedestrians have the right of way. I do not expect them to jump up on the curb when I approach in my golf cart. I move into the car lane, if safe, or slow down or even stop. Many pedestrians here have difficulty walking and are unable to leap aside at the approach of every golf cart.

BTW, the law says we must give bicycles three feet. I think we can grant pedestrians the same.

janmcn 02-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 457436)
Today I was driving around the square at Lake Sumter. We made it a practice to follow the law and always stop if someone is crossing the street.
I stopped to allow a very elderly couple cross and the car behind me started to blow her horn. After they crossed she drove up next to me, opened her passenger window and proceeded to scream at me for allowing them to cross and holding her up. She was almost out of control because I had stopped. I reminded her she probably would need the same consideration shortly and to be more thoughtful.
I looked at it as being sad for her since she obviously had lost touch with
the need to help others and apparently was living an angry life. :smiley:

What planet was this woman from? There's not a state in the country that doesn't have a law protecting pedestrians in a crosswalk. What would she have you do, run over them so she could get to her????? She not only lost touch with the need to help others, she's lost touch with reality.

Daisy 02-23-2012 01:26 PM

I agree with Another Linda. Morse is SO busy. It is dangerous for cyclists, walkers and carts. I would love to see a separate multi-use trail.

Happinow 02-23-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 457459)
Wouldn't you have just loved to have had my squirt gun?


I can't seem to find an icon for the "Squirt Gun Posse" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Graytop 02-23-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daisy (Post 457679)
I agree with Another Linda. Morse is SO busy. It is dangerous for cyclists, walkers and carts. I would love to see a separate multi-use trail.

Enrique can be a little precarious also,..the golf cart & bike lane on there is pretty narrow,...where else?....how about Rio Grande?:loco:

captg 02-23-2012 07:06 PM

:censored:December a year ago, my wife and I were accosted by a member of Lake Sumter PD T ABOUT 8:20 On a Sunday evening. We had stepped off the curb by the movie heading towards Johnny Roickets when the Police car roared up on us and stopped behind me and the driver informed me I should have backed off for him. I mentioned to him that I thought the pedestrian had the right of way. He said, not in Fl. He also told me that if I wished to find out for sure, he would ticket me and let the judge decide. The conversation escalated and we finally walked away.:22yikes:

Indydealmaker 02-23-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 457572)
I don't know what the norm is. It is not a golf cart lane. It is a multi modal lane. In my book pedestrians have the right of way. I do not expect them to jump up on the curb when I approach in my golf cart. I move into the car lane, if safe, or slow down or even stop. Many pedestrians here have difficulty walking and are unable to leap aside at the approach of every golf cart.

BTW, the law says we must give bicycles three feet. I think we can grant pedestrians the same.

Actually, the only multi-modal lanes are off of the roadway. The golf cart lanes on the roadway are designated for bikers and golf carts. The pedestrians walking there are making it easier on their feet (asphalt vs. concrete sidewalks) but they are playing it risky. Obviously, on streets with no sidewalks, pedestrians have no choice but to walk wherever they can, but they need to realize, even if they have the right of way, faster moving vehicles cannot always avoid slower moving objects.

gage405 02-23-2012 08:39 PM

They just upgraded Morse Blvd a year or two ago. But, I am still nervous driving a cart on Morse Blvd. I dont like to
drive my golf cart on a road that is mainly traveled by cars driving at, what I consider a high rate of speed, when I am on the side of the road. I really dont trust cars driving so close so the "alleged" cart paths.
I try to drive on the cart paths only.
Maybe that is why I dont play the golf courses north of 466 that much.
Its dangerous out there on the roads in a cart, in my opinion. Be that Morse Blvd., St. Charles, or Odell.
I really think more dedicated cart paths are necessary.
But, I guess it is too late for dedicated cart paths on the roads I have mentioned.

Eve2278 02-23-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 457591)
What planet was this woman from? There's not a state in the country that doesn't have a law protecting pedestrians in a crosswalk. What would she have you do, run over them so she could get to her????? She not only lost touch with the need to help others, she's lost touch with reality.

Hmm, there's a bird out there somewhere just for her...:censored:

NotGolfer 02-23-2012 11:16 PM

If you think about it....the percentage of folks in T.V. is possibly high in the fact that there are those who take medications for various issues. Then add to that...eye-sight not being that of a 20 year old, anymore. Disregard the being active put that aside....and the healthy aspect that's portrayed in all the "games" folks are playing. Look in the Sun and see ALL the ads for health-care of various kinds and ask yourself why they're there. I'd hate to know whose driving any kind of vehicle and using medications. Look at your pill bottles...most will say "don't operate a motor vehicle, use alcohol etc. while taking this" Could it be that there are folks who are kidding themselves and going about "Life" 'under the influence'. Add to this age, slower reflexes and more. I heard a story once about a guy who joined a 4-some and told the other folks they'd have to tell him where the ball went because he was legally blind. After the round he was observed to get in his car and drive away (true story!!!).

REDCART 02-24-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by captg (Post 457884)
:censored:December a year ago, my wife and I were accosted by a member of Lake Sumter PD T ABOUT 8:20 On a Sunday evening. We had stepped off the curb by the movie heading towards Johnny Roickets when the Police car roared up on us and stopped behind me and the driver informed me I should have backed off for him. I mentioned to him that I thought the pedestrian had the right of way. He said, not in Fl. He also told me that if I wished to find out for sure, he would ticket me and let the judge decide. The conversation escalated and we finally walked away.:22yikes:

Pedestrian rights seem to vary somewhat by state. This is what I found online for pedesrian rights in FL (as of 2003 and assuming it's still accurate). http://www.floridasectionite.org/TIP...Rev%202003.pdf

graciegirl 02-24-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 458027)
If you think about it....the percentage of folks in T.V. is possibly high in the fact that there are those who take medications for various issues. Then add to that...eye-sight not being that of a 20 year old, anymore. Disregard the being active put that aside....and the healthy aspect that's portrayed in all the "games" folks are playing. Look in the Sun and see ALL the ads for health-care of various kinds and ask yourself why they're there. I'd hate to know whose driving any kind of vehicle and using medications. Look at your pill bottles...most will say "don't operate a motor vehicle, use alcohol etc. while taking this" Could it be that there are folks who are kidding themselves and going about "Life" 'under the influence'. Add to this age, slower reflexes and more. I heard a story once about a guy who joined a 4-some and told the other folks they'd have to tell him where the ball went because he was legally blind. After the round he was observed to get in his car and drive away (true story!!!).


Well I always think of myself as typical. I take blood pressure medication and Prilosec and Boniva once a month. None of those have anything on them about driving a motor vehicle. I think that Dewars, Jim Beam and Johnny Walkers may be a little more to blame....and bad driving habits brought here from other parts of the country. Some people from large cities have always used public transit and some have rarely if ever driven and then they come here and drive golf carts.

As to Morse Blvd and separate paths, as the development has grown, the developers have improved many issues, including separate from the road cart paths on many streets where you drive over 20 mph.

No matter if all the paths were separate, and all the people were not drinking or taking medication that altered their judgement, and all of them could see well. Bad judgement and foolishness would still come in to play.

Drive as if everyone else is an idiot and don't drive like one yourself.


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