Seen that number times with gun ranges and drag strips. Most cases they get them shut down.

that is exactly the point. The p. I a 911 noise complaints will drive local police and authorities to take action vs the squares participants. How many times have you seen airport neighborhoods rise up vs plane noise when they knew the inherent risks before they bought their homes. We have to create a zone where these complaints are automatically dismissed. The new residents must be compelled, by signing a waiver, at their closings.

They are New Yorking The Villages.

As I said.
'Where the people on the ground floor park.'
ie. business occupants.

I 100% agree. People are complaining that we are losing restaurants in the square, yet they try to block adding 2nd story apartments that will ADD customers to keep the restaurants in business!! Converting the 2nd floor in the square to apartments takes nothing away from villagers.
Maybe we should ask businesses on the square what they would like.

My concern is the removing of Country Clubs, less for us to visit and enjoy.
More apartments more people , you will never get to watch another square show unless you get by 4PM to save your seat.
The restaurants and bowling alleys closing due to high rents especially during the conoravirus?
We the HO' s will lose out on the benefits while the Morse family gets richer , she will come a point where this is no the place to live and the home values is go down.
Only my opinion

Sell quick and move away before it's too late.

:boom:

Well ya can’t save a seat unless your in it.
Didn’t the governor close the restaurants, and businesses?
The reason the business are not rebounding is too many are not either ordering to go or dining in. We eat out or take out the same this year as last year.

Those who have stayed in their homes waiting for the vaccine, may find out they didn’t live long enough to get in line. Then Covid could evolve to a totally different strain.
The flu vaccine still doesn’t protect from all strains, and look how long that been around.

And how profitable were those restaurants.

I hear some people complain about the Silver Lake restaurant being turned into a rec center. I wonder how often those same people ate there. It also seems a bit silly to have a restaurant at that location when there is OBH Country Club a half mile away.

Why have a restaurant at Chula Vista when it is so close to Town Square?

I'm going to guess that the restaurant at El Santiago wasn't very successful and Glenview is a mile and a half away.

If these places were all that popular and profitable, they wouldn't have been closed.

It's the same for Hacienda Hills CC. It was never busy and the clientele all seemed to be ninety years old.

People have to remember that these places are all businesses and are there to make money. They are not there for the pleasure of the residents. Yes, residents enjoy having some of these places but it is up to the residents to support them. if they are not sufficiently supported, the owners will find other use for the property.

I agree - that's the point. The developer is leasing out the CC restaurants at a fixed rate and the lessee is the one that does or doesn't make a profit dependent upon traffic flow (and the success rate of policing those lemon water drinkers). My guess is turning these facilities into high end apartments will yield much more profit with less headaches for the developer. When remodel time comes why not convert to the more profitable endeavor ? As many point out here the developer is in business to make money. Might as well maximize it. Goodbye Cane Garden - The restaurants are right down the street at Sumter Landing Square. Any predictions on which CC gets turned into apartments after Cane Garden ?

Why ??

If a restaurant is lousy it makes no difference how close people live to it, it won't help them except maybe for an initial visit. If a restaurant is GOOD people will come from all around to go there.

What's up with Cane Garden? LSL is two miles away, so not exactly just down (up) the road.

N/M, old news.

As other posters have pointed out Cane Garden is in need of a remodel job - outdated and showing much wear. Hacienda Hills was a couple miles from Spanish Springs downtown and it came down. Given the HH move why wouldn't the developer follow suit with other CC's ?