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twoplanekid 04-28-2015 12:17 PM

I find it interesting that the people who suggest that the developer runs TV as a business are taking the same position as the IRS in the Bond case. While our TV attorneys claim that the Villages are operated under CDD rules that allow elected officials to govern.

Villager Joyce 04-28-2015 12:18 PM

So How many Villagers live within the boundaries of Wildwood? Or asked a different way, how many Villagers get to vote in the next mayoral election?

sunnyatlast 04-28-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 1052507)
Guess what, even before those coveted tax dollars were entering their coffers they were highly rated schools. Lake Pan and a few others have been known as Model schools long before growth south of 466A. That being said, sure they'll take a few million dollars more for the schools, who wouldn't. But if you think all those residents in southern Sumter County welcome the changes you would be sadly mistaken. I know it's hard to believe but The Villages is not the center of the Universe.....

We don't disagree on that. I'm well aware of how Leesburg, Fruitland Park, etc. do not want the developer encroachment into their fair cities/towns.

But the bottom line is that if it's not TV--a known quantity and recipe that works--it will be some other developer that could care far less about what happens when they are long gone.

I think it was JFK who said, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer". Wisdom to live by.

NavyNJ 04-28-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1052516)
So How many Villagers live within the boundaries of Wildwood? Or asked a different way, how many Villagers get to vote in the next mayoral election?

None that I can see from the map I found. As of now, it looks like the city limits skirt the current boundaries of TV. The parcel being discussed in this thread would solidly land within the city limits, which would make all those residents eligible to vote in Wildwood municipal elections (I would think). That might present a sufficient size voting block to possibly sway election outcomes in their mind. Who knows? Haven't bothered to research Wildwood election stats from past few elections.

sunnyatlast 04-28-2015 12:26 PM

Elections stats are here:

Sumter County Supervisor of Elections > Home

outlaw 04-28-2015 01:51 PM

The Villages will continue to prosper. Wildwood will prosper. Plenty of people moving to Florida. Someone will develop this property. No harm, no foul.

CFrance 04-28-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keywest (Post 1052300)
The mayor of Wildwood, in trying to dictate to The Villages and the Morse family, was involved in negotiations that were "way over his head". I believe the mayor's main fear was that he would lose his "job" in the city's next re-election... Well guess what?... He will... When Wildwood wakes up and realizes what they missed out on. The damage for them has already been done and IF AND WHEN they would want to re-open the negotiations with The Villages again ... it will never be at the same price or conditions originally offered to them.....IMHO....

The mayor is not running for re-election, and neither is the one commissioner who was against the development.

Who thinks this is not the end of the story? I bet they will get together on it.

CFrance 04-28-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1052565)
The Villages will continue to prosper. Wildwood will prosper. Plenty of people moving to Florida. Someone will develop this property. No harm, no foul.

I agree.

graciegirl 04-28-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1052570)
The mayor is not running for re-election, and neither is the one commissioner who was against the development.

Who thinks this is not the end of the story? I bet they will get together on it.

I have said this many times CFrance. Your mama didn't have any dumb kids.

outlaw 04-28-2015 02:22 PM

Those who think Wildwood blew it must think that money trumps simplicity, less congestion, or rural surroundings. Maybe the Wildwood citizens are happy the way things are in their community. Maybe they don't want the crowds and traffic that comes with endless "progress". Maybe they live here because they wanted a rural lifestyle. Honestly, I'm glad that the developer withdrew. I think the building strategy is getting out of hand. It is already very crowded in that area, and 800 new homes is a lot of people. I know some will think I'm selfish, and that's alright. I do believe the land owner and the developer have the right to develop the property. I'm just saying, for me, I hope it doesn't happen.

NECHFalcon68 04-28-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyNJ (Post 1052512)
Saw your post and figured I'd check it out. Wow! What a convoluted city limit boundary Wildwood has! Take a look at the map at the link and check out some of the crazy zigs and zags.

Wildwood City Limit Map

Interesting that St Vincent de Paul Church is not within Wildwood limits....

graciegirl 04-28-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1052579)
Those who think Wildwood blew it must think that money trumps simplicity, less congestion, or rural surroundings. Maybe the Wildwood citizens are happy the way things are in their community. Maybe they don't want the crowds and traffic that comes with endless "progress". Maybe they live here because they wanted a rural lifestyle. Honestly, I'm glad that the developer withdrew. I think the building strategy is getting out of hand. It is already very crowded in that area, and 800 new homes is a lot of people. I know some will think I'm selfish, and that's alright. I do believe the land owner and the developer have the right to develop the property. I'm just saying, for me, I hope it doesn't happen.

Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it won't happen. There will be things built there and I can't think they will be as nice as The Villages build them. It is no more crowded in that area than in the area around 466 or in any other area of The Villages. The density is the same.

It has only been THREE years since nothing was below 466A. I think the commercial construction will soon catch up to the growth, just as it did in the less new parts..

As for Wildwood, you need to investigate a little further. Wildwood and Fruitland Park both will gain from the association. Money is not all evil.

patfla06 04-28-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Phanatic Luvr (Post 1052354)
Is it just me thinking .... I'm actually relieved there won't be 800 more houses on that corner. Does anyone other than myself think about our property values down the road and an overly developed community?
After the baby boomer generation is over, will there be a lot of our kids who have money to retire comfortably and afford a place like TV's? I'm not so sure about that. Just my thoughts ...

I am also relieved. Adding another 800 homes would be a lot in this area.

That being said, I do believe it will be developed at some point and would rather have it done by The Villages.

I have to agree with you and also wonder if the "next wave" of retirees will be able to retire here.
Many will not have company pensions as many of us have.
I just hope the buyers will still be there in the future.

Miles42 04-28-2015 03:06 PM

Glad to hear that the developers did not knuckle down to the Wildwood city idiots.

Big O 04-28-2015 03:07 PM

Personally, I think his constituents have not "explained it properly" to mayor just yet.


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