Is the art of fact checking obsolete now???

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Old 09-20-2021, 07:43 AM
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Thanks! Good point, because I see/read comments made by Villagers, who are parroting what the heard on the Noise/propaganda cable networks without fact checking what they are parroting.
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Gateway Pundit is an alt-right extremist conspiracy website that is known to publish complete fiction, and pass it off as news. Sort of like if the Onion wasn't kidding.
Sounds like CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR and all the other main stream media. I'll throw in FOX also even if I'm a conservative, they sensationalize a lot of their content. None of them are to be trusted to tell the unbiased story, it is up to the listener to use their brain to figure out the truth.
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I find it amazing that Google feeds you the news that they deem appropriate.
...You really don't know how a Search Engine works do you...

Anything that contradicts ones narrative is
"..feeding you the news that they deem appropriate.."

Not withstanding the FACTS...
Amazing....
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So true, both the opinion and the quote.

I ask myself everyday, what if "they" are correct. Sadly for the most part THEY are not. But, sometimes THEY are, and I have some soul searching to do...
Your demographic profile is used to tailor Ads to you...
The search results are not..
Try this; put the same search into Google, Bing, Duck Duck, Wofrem, etc The results will be extremely similar, and often identical.
Everybody, all together now.....GO..
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So it basically appears to me that "we" all believe what we want to believe to be factual according to our political leaning.
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After reading, and watching most networks, I will then fact check Snopes and others, and then, only then, draw my own conclusions. I'm a stickler on the TRUTH, which is NOT trending (must be the fear instilled in me as a child and that giant bar of soap that found its way to my mouth on a few occasions, ugh!) Lesson learned early.
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So it basically appears to me that "we" all believe what we want to believe to be factual according to our political leaning.
Self-explanatory.
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If you would like an in-depth look at how our country is under the influence of conspiracy theories/propaganda, google the following words: The Atlantic Shadowland.

That will take you to the Shadowland series of articles that you might find interesting. (Eventually, they will require a subscription, but you might be able to choose a couple of articles to read before it cuts you off. Or if a title of an article gets your attention, you might be able to find it elsewhere under its title. Or a library might have a subscription.)

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So it basically appears to me that "we" all believe what we want to believe to be factual according to our political leaning.
Some of us were trained by really ethical journalists.* (Our granddaughter is a really ethical journalist.)

Although I sometimes do not agree with the opinions voiced, I respect facts from the New York Times, The Washington Post, and The AP Wire.
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Using the words Google and media in the same sentence is the first problem. As others have pointed out, Google is a for-profit amalgamator of information. Social media in general is not news, but an “echo chamber” designed to feed us what we want to see, so we continue to click, feeding them. News organizations tend to have some amount of bias as well, though when I got my degree in Journalism, we learned that a professional news organization should have a dedication to truth telling as a core principle. Well, that was a long time ago.

Especially in an age where anyone with a keyboard can call themselves “news,” how do you judge your news source? I have found this bias checking source that at least gives you a scale to judge your news source vs. others. I highly recommend you see where your favorite source is on a chart like this one. Ad Fontes Media – Home of the Media Bias Chart
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Just because a person doesn't like the 'facts' being presented, doesn't lessen the truth - that they are facts. And unlike so many other sources, NPR is quick to apologize and/or correct anything they subsequently find was incorrect. If only more sources had their integrity and ethics.
Problem is, too many are too quick to post the incorrect info and the "correction" is subsequently buried or ignored...
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Some of us were trained by really ethical journalists.* (Our granddaughter is a really ethical journalist.)

Although I sometimes do not agree with the opinions voiced, I respect facts from the New York Times, The Washington Post, and The AP Wire.
Well, the NYT's own ombudsman quit because his own newspaper was becoming too biased and no one would listen to him about it...

And the WaPo had to settle a lawsuit because of false information the continued to post about Nick Sandman...

And AP? They published a headline: "Palestinian Killed in Clash with Israelis"...

What happened? A palestinian terrorist drove his car into a busy bus stop, go out and started slashing people with a large machete like knife. A security guard at a nearby jewelry store rushed to the scene and dispatched the terrorist...

But the "respected" AP chose to flip the narrative...

So there's that...
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Just because a person doesn't like the 'facts' being presented, doesn't lessen the truth - that they are facts. And unlike so many other sources, NPR is quick to apologize and/or correct anything they subsequently find was incorrect. If only more sources had their integrity and ethics.
LOL 😆, the joke of the day.
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Rating NPR as being highly factual proves to me that "The Factual" site isn't factual at all. NPR constantly yells out half-truths or no-truths. NPR is strongly biased to the left.
It looks like you must have quit reading the linked article way too soon. NPR is actually 23rd on the list, with an "Average Factual Grade" of 67.2%. Showing a little bias of your own maybe?
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I rarely watch the news, except for some local stuff, and especially for the weather, but they always lie ;-) I never watch the cable Pundit shows. I do a lot of research, on-line, throwing out the far right and far left.

If I want to look up, say, "What is Treason," I wouldn't ask a question, I'd be more specific, something like, "Supreme Court decisions on treason," or "Treason cases in the US." From there you can get more info on the subject. It's more tedious, but also more informing.
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