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Barborv 04-27-2021 03:12 PM
I truly feel its a personal preference. I bought in the villages 9 years ago a new unit in Gilcrest. Since we rent that, last March we decided to purchase another home by lake Miona ,that we will live in when we retire next year. When we saw there was NO BOND, we jumped on it. I also wanted a particular style house for the past 9 years, and they don't make them anymore. There are many positive things about the new areas, such as walking and biking trails, newer recreation facilities , and yes, newer people. The downside for me was I like more mature areas, Love being near sumpter Landing and Spanish Springs area, Love driving my cart on Buena Vista, Love being by the theatres, and entertainment venues and all the shopping. As far as new people, the village I bought in is a bit secluded, and besides my husband and I, 3 new people moved into the area around the same time as us. It's a very tight knit area and they do a lot of things together. I guess also where you buy south of the turnpike makes a difference also. I have heard people complain that they hear the blasting from the stone quarry, or the speakers from the prison. The best thing to do is go to the areas that appeal to you and ask the people who live there and I bet you they will all tell you that they love their area. Soooo- personal preference.

Chi-Town 04-27-2021 04:25 PM
Take a ride on Buena Vista from 466 to Brownwood. Enjoy the vistas and the open spaces. That is a benchmark for comparison.

Dynsol 04-27-2021 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1935523)
There has been so much on here regarding the pros and cons of living south of 44. We purchased in Fenney four years ago and have really enjoyed living down here, 30% of the homes sold south of 44 are to Villagers that were living north of 44 so that alone tells you something. I'm only speaking of Fenney as that's where I live. No. 1 is medical, we are very close to the new 24 hour UF Villages Emergency Room, less than 15 minutes to the UF Leesburg Hospital and Emergency Room, less than 10 minutes to The Villages Specialty Care Center and soon to open new Primary Care facility. Restaurants, we are less than 10 minutes away from at least 15 restaurants with more on the way. Entertainment, less than 10 minutes to Paddock Square, later this year the Sawgrass outdoor entertainment area is rumored to be open, probably just before the snowbirds come back. Exercise, there are miles and miles of bike and hike trails down here starting in Fenney and going just about everywhere south of 44, most if not all of the neighborhood rec. centers have outdoor exercise equipment that is well maintained. Dogs, we have two of the 6 dog parks that are in The Villages, I don't like dog parks but they're here if you want to use them. Golf, we have 5 executive courses plus the pitch and putt course and the new 27 hole championship courses are well under way. Atmosphere, this part of TV is very open with lots of green space and water. Amenities, we have all of the amenities known to the northern villages plus several that are not up there with the exception of horse shoes. The only thing we don't have would be box store shopping, you have to go up to Lady Lake for that but I'm sure it will be here in the near future.
According to Todays newspaper (4/27/21) and previous newspaper articles there will be an 18-Hole Championship course (NOT 27-Hole ) . Many keep posting there is to be a 27-Hole course adjacent to the Villages of Cason Hammock and Citrus Grove.

Each nine will be called Live Oak 9 and Laurel Oak 9 respectively.

If anyone has other FACTUAL Info to the contrary , please publish where documentation as to the source...............:bigbow:

vintageogauge 04-27-2021 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynsol (Post 1936391)
According to Todays newspaper (4/27/21) and previous newspaper articles there will be an 18-Hole Championship course (NOT 27-Hole ) . Many keep posting there is to be a 27-Hole course adjacent to the Villages of Cason Hammock and Citrus Grove.

Each nine will be called Live Oak 9 and Laurel Oak 9 respectively.

If anyone has other FACTUAL Info to the contrary , please publish where documentation as to the source...............:bigbow:
I think there is another area below Monarch Grove that is getting 27 holes. Maybe Goldwing Nut will chime in on it.

Stu from NYC 04-27-2021 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brwne (Post 1935998)
Our experience with "South of 44" is more about "new" rather than geography. New development is South of 44 and that means that each neighborhood is filled with brand new people looking to meet their new neighbors. It seems to us there's a natural inclusivity with being on a circle rather than a long road.

Many older areas, North of 44, have well established "activity groups" and it can be more difficult as a newcomer. Being near a square is not quite as important as there's live entertainment in many other locations throughout The Villages.

Over the next decade (or two) 44 will become the geographic "middle" of The Villages due to the substantial planned expansion further South. Sawgrass is a different approach to a "square" and it's going to be interesting to see how it's received.

We've been Villagers, South of 44, for just over a year and absolutely love it! The challenge for the developer's crystal ball - what will create the magic for the future generations coming to The Villages!
At the rate this place is expanding 44 will be considered in the northern part of the villages within 20 years.

As I told my brother in law who just retired wait 20 years and you can leave your house and say hi to Mickey.

Ringo7648 04-27-2021 07:37 PM
Experience
 
Other than Webster, Fl for their exciting flea market, you should drive north for many miles to shopping on 441/27. As for eating out you would have selection from the three trailers for exciting options as well as 1 Fenny Grill. Otherwise, again you will be driving to escape the turnpike noise, blasting, penitentiary noise to go to Brownwood.:1rotfl:

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Originally Posted by sshepard03 (Post 1935499)
We plan to be Villagers in the next 4 months and just finished our third lifestyle visit: were on a mission to pick a neighborhood. We were focused on the areas around south Lake Sumter/north Brownwood...but we surprisingly very much liked the new areas. Pitched and Putted in Marsh Bend, ALLOWED the people at Edna's to serve us and entertain us with music, Putted and Played in Fenney, enjoyed concerts at Lake Sumter Landing and Brownwood Paddock Square. Looked at houses in those areas as well as St. Catherine and Hawkins. Fell in love with the newer areas and were excited about infrastructure building there. Chitty Chatty seems still to be a little isolated for us. We greatly value convenience to shopping and activities.

Other than distance to town squares being a negative, we would appreciate any/all comments, pros or cons, on the new areas in the south of TVs.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

vintageogauge 04-27-2021 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ringo7648 (Post 1936423)
Other than Webster, Fl for their exciting flea market, you should drive north for many miles to shopping on 441/27. As for eating out you would have selection from the three trailers for exciting options as well as 1 Fenny Grill. Otherwise, again you will be driving to escape the turnpike noise, blasting, penitentiary noise to go to Brownwood.:1rotfl:
Very sad reply.

Bogie Shooter 04-27-2021 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ringo7648 (Post 1936423)
Other than Webster, Fl for their exciting flea market, you should drive north for many miles to shopping on 441/27. As for eating out you would have selection from the three trailers for exciting options as well as 1 Fenny Grill. Otherwise, again you will be driving to escape the turnpike noise, blasting, penitentiary noise to go to Brownwood.:1rotfl:
Nice, another bashingpost.

txfan 04-28-2021 06:48 AM
Sawgrass Grove is a game-changer.

beckylou152 04-28-2021 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rsenholzi (Post 1936054)
The houses are beautiful down there but watch out for the bond prices. It adds an additional $25,000 in cost on top of the house, that they conveniently “forget” to tell you. They roll it into the cost of the mortgage so you are not only paying the cost of the interest on the bond but also the cost of the interest on the mortgage bring the interest to almost 10%
We just bought in Bradford, and we researched everything first quite in depth. For the same house north of 44, we would have paid about $30,000 more. So the bond, which was explained very thoroughly to use, and not hidden in any manner at all, really makes up for that. Plus we have a brand new house. We have found all of our neighbors to be so nice, there are a lot of new groups forming, and we feel happy about our decision. I'm not saying this is the only place to live. I think we'd have been happy most anywhere at The Villages. The only negatives, so far, is the distance to shopping at big box stores, and that it takes a bit to get to an executive golf course. I'm super excited about Sawgrass. We do often take a golf cart ride to Brownwood, and to Sumter, and enjoy that as well. Brownwood seems to be a real "happening place" now with the bridges all open. We like to just grab a drink or dinner outside and listen to the music. I don't see that changing. We find being close to Leesburg really nice - we have found a church and bank there. All is good, and I think anywhere you live has its pros and cons. You just have to pick which ones you want to deal with!

Bacimom 04-28-2021 08:11 AM
We recently moved to Chitty Chatty from Pine Hills. We were concerned about leaving the convenience of Colony, Walmart, Belle Glade, etc. In reality, we are 5 minutes by golf cart from Lake Deaton Publix, 12 minutes to Belle Glade, etc. We can actually get to Brownwood faster now than before! We absolutely love the wildlife & the trails. I walk everyday & my husband is an avid cyclist & he feels SO much safer now that he doesn’t have to share the road with cars. Finally, we’ve found this to be an extremely active, inclusive neighborhood. Additionally, there’s only one gate, so our only traffic (other than construction/landscape) is residents-no through traffic. It’s been an excellent move for us! Ps, we’re 56 & yes, we do find a lot more ‘young’ or young at heart have moved here.

VApeople 04-28-2021 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bacimom (Post 1936561)
We recently moved to Chitty Chatty from Pine Hills.
Do you enjoy trying to turn left onto Morse Road (Route 468) to get to the new Magnolia Plaza?

Dond1959 04-28-2021 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynsol (Post 1936391)
According to Todays newspaper (4/27/21) and previous newspaper articles there will be an 18-Hole Championship course (NOT 27-Hole ) . Many keep posting there is to be a 27-Hole course adjacent to the Villages of Cason Hammock and Citrus Grove.

Each nine will be called Live Oak 9 and Laurel Oak 9 respectively.

If anyone has other FACTUAL Info to the contrary , please publish where documentation as to the source...............:bigbow:
You are correct, the first course opening in the fall will be an 18 hole course. However, there are plan for two more courses, an 18 and 27 hole course which will be south of Monarch Grove and east of Marsh Bend. These courses have been discussed by the Villages and were shown in the latest insert that came with the paper this week. No announcement on timeframe for these courses has been discussed.

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Lottoguy 04-28-2021 09:15 AM
Look at the villages of Polo Ridge, Tall Trees, and Piedmont. All are great locations and near everything you will need. New area is years away from needed infrastructure. Do you really want to wait?

vintageogauge 04-28-2021 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936578)
Do you enjoy trying to turn left onto Morse Road (Route 468) to get to the new Magnolia Plaza?
No different than coming out of Colony Blvd. and turning left on Morse. There are several intersections similar to that in TV, most of them North of 44 so why pick on Chitty Chatty?

ohiosbestus 04-28-2021 11:41 AM
My friends just bought a place off of Lawler Loop in Marsh Bend which is just past Ednas on the Green and she said she barely got moved in before neighbors were knocking at her door and took her under their wings and introduced her to their neighborhood watch group they have established plus their neighborhood golf groups for both women and couples and talked about other plans for purchasing defibrilator's for the group in the neighborhood for possible life saving moments before the EMS would get to that location. I believe Lawler Loop is either the first or second street past Edna's on the Green. Better hurry though homes are selling like hot cakes in that area.

VApeople 04-28-2021 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936630)
No different than coming out of Colony Blvd. and turning left on Morse.
To my knowledge, Colony does not intersect Morse.

I guess you are referring to going south on Colony and trying to turn left on 466A. That is a terrible intersection!! We have never even considered trying to turn left there,

We often play golf at Truman or Roosevelt. When we leave, we go right on Colony, then right on Odell, and then right on Morse to get home to Osceola Hills.

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936630)
There are several intersections similar to that in TV, most of them North of 44
The only others I have noticed are:

1) Leaving Ternberry Forest Drive and trying to turn left on Buena Vista.
2) Leaving Laurel Run Drive and trying to turn left on 466.

I have never, and will never, try either of them.

champion6 04-28-2021 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936679)
To my knowledge, Colony does not intersect Morse.

I guess you are referring to going south on Colony and trying to turn left on 466A. That is a terrible intersection!! We have never even considered trying to turn left there,

We often play golf at Truman or Roosevelt. When we leave, we go right on Colony, then right on Odell, and then right on Morse to get home to Osceola Hills.

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You are confusing Colony Blvd with Canal St. Your trip from Truman or Roosevelt uses Canal St. Colony Blvd. goes west from Colony Plaza, by Colony Cottage Rec Center and terminates at Morse Blvd.

vintageogauge 04-28-2021 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936679)
To my knowledge, Colony does not intersect Morse.

I guess you are referring to going south on Colony and trying to turn left on 466A. That is a terrible intersection!! We have never even considered trying to turn left there,

We often play golf at Truman or Roosevelt. When we leave, we go right on Colony, then right on Odell, and then right on Morse to get home to Osceola Hills.



The only others I have noticed are:

1) Leaving Ternberry Forest Drive and trying to turn left on Buena Vista.
2) Leaving Laurel Run Drive and trying to turn left on 466.

I have never, and will never, try either of them.
Google it. Colony Blvd. empties onto Morse Blvd. with no lights. I could never understand why they would do that. No need for being critical of Chitty Chatty as it is not unique to The Villages.

laboutj 04-28-2021 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936695)
Google it. Colony Blvd. empties onto Morse Blvd. with no lights. I could never understand why they would do that. No need for being critical of Chitty Chatty as it is not unique to The Villages.
There's no lights at that intersection because it's too close to the intersection of 466A and Morse Blvd. During snowbird season there would be a good chance that the traffic would back up onto 466A during certain times of the day.

And the bashing of south of 44 has to stop. I'm sure the same things were said of the neighborhoods south of 466 and then south of 466A.

VApeople 04-28-2021 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936695)
Google it. Colony Blvd. empties onto Morse Blvd. with no lights. I could never understand why they would do that.
Yeah, I sure did get Canal and Colony confused. I often make simple mistakes like that.

I often drive along Morse where it intersects Colony, and I never thought a person would ever come out of Colony and try to go left on Morse. I agree, I can't understand why it was designed to even allow that.

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936695)
No need for being critical of Chitty Chatty as it is not unique to The Villages.
I disagree.

This thread is asking for comments about the areas south of 44 and I make the comment about the difficulty of turning left onto Morse Road from Chitty Chatty. I think my comment is very appropriate.

JSR22 04-28-2021 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936715)
Yeah, I sure did get Canal and Colony confused. I often make simple mistakes like that.

I often drive along Morse where it intersects Colony, and I never thought a person would ever come out of Colony and try to go left on Morse. I agree, I can't understand why it was designed to even allow that.



I disagree.

This thread is asking for comments about the areas south of 44 and I make the comment about the difficulty of turning left onto Morse Road from Chitty Chatty. I think my comment is very appropriate.
I turn left onto Morse from Colony all the time year round. Never a big deal.

vintageogauge 04-28-2021 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1936718)
I turn left onto Morse from Colony all the time year round. Never a big deal.
As do everyone that lives in Chitty Chatty, not a big deal.

vintageogauge 04-28-2021 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936715)
Yeah, I sure did get Canal and Colony confused. I often make simple mistakes like that.

I often drive along Morse where it intersects Colony, and I never thought a person would ever come out of Colony and try to go left on Morse. I agree, I can't understand why it was designed to even allow that.



I disagree.

This thread is asking for comments about the areas south of 44 and I make the comment about the difficulty of turning left onto Morse Road from Chitty Chatty. I think my comment is very appropriate.
Your comment is only one man's opinion, you make it sound like it's a life threatening situation. You were not even replying to the OP you were replying to the individual that bought in Chitty Chatty and enjoys her home and village, you comment was not OP appropriate.

Tennisbum 04-28-2021 03:45 PM
Please buy up north......we southenders are growing weary of the northerners coming down and crowding out facilities!! Spanish Springs is a lovely place to own a home!

Marathon Man 04-28-2021 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1936715)
Yeah, I sure did get Canal and Colony confused. I often make simple mistakes like that.

I often drive along Morse where it intersects Colony, and I never thought a person would ever come out of Colony and try to go left on Morse. I agree, I can't understand why it was designed to even allow that.



I disagree.

This thread is asking for comments about the areas south of 44 and I make the comment about the difficulty of turning left onto Morse Road from Chitty Chatty. I think my comment is very appropriate.
Because no where else in The Villages does anyone have to make a left turn????

Tennisbum 04-28-2021 04:09 PM
heard the same bull from some out of TV agents. Live in Marsh Bend for over a year and have yet to hear anything from the prison or the quarry, but if will keep people away please keep spreading the fake news!!!

yabbadu 04-28-2021 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1936399)
I think there is another area below Monarch Grove that is getting 27 holes. Maybe Goldwing Nut will chime in on it.
Another words, it is here say to you with no facts! :bigbow:

tvbound 04-28-2021 05:05 PM
Although we will be buying somewhere near Lake Sumter Landing, between 466 & 466A, I like the idea that down below 44 is where the new Costco will be built (ducking - lol).

vintageogauge 04-28-2021 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by yabbadu (Post 1936743)
Another words, it is here say to you with no facts! :bigbow:
You didn't read #52 did you?????

Bay Kid 04-29-2021 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1936744)
Although we will be buying somewhere near Lake Sumter Landing, between 466 & 466A, I like the idea that down below 44 is where the new Costco will be built (ducking - lol).
Costco, a good reason to buy up north.

canyonblue 04-29-2021 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ringo7648 (Post 1936423)
Other than Webster, Fl for their exciting flea market, you should drive north for many miles to shopping on 441/27. As for eating out you would have selection from the three trailers for exciting options as well as 1 Fenny Grill. Otherwise, again you will be driving to escape the turnpike noise, blasting, penitentiary noise to go to Brownwood.:1rotfl:
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Lottoguy 04-29-2021 09:04 AM
If a Costco comes to this area it will be built in Ocala. Perfect spot between Gainesville and The Villages. They want to be in areas with growing families.

Lottoguy 04-29-2021 09:06 AM
BJ's Wholesale just broke ground next to the Lowes on 441. Should be up and running near the end of this year.

graciegirl 04-29-2021 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1937037)
BJ's Wholesale just broke ground next to the Lowes on 441. Should be up and running near the end of this year.
I haven't ever seen or visited a BJ's Wholesale. I have belonged to Costco at one time. I am happy with Sam's Club.

I think, as I always do, that I am suspicious of the motivation of anonymous posters who diss the new areas. I always suspect they may be MLS realtors that are frustrated because they are NOT allowed to sell new homes in The Villages and want to scare people off from new areas.

I think it is fun to be new in a place where a lot of people are new. You can begin the fun together. But I understand a lot of people who already live here are also moving to the new areas.

It will take a while for businesses to catch up, but they will come quickly, I bet. People are swarming to live here and I would choose a new area if I were moving here.

Stu from NYC 04-29-2021 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1937127)
I haven't ever seen or visited a BJ's Wholesale. I have belonged to Costco at one time. I am happy with Sam's Club.

I think, as I always do, that I am suspicious of the motivation of anonymous posters who diss the new areas. I always suspect they may be MLS realtors that are frustrated because they are NOT allowed to sell new homes in The Villages and want to scare people off from new areas.

I think it is fun to be new in a place where a lot of people are new. You can begin the fun together. But I understand a lot of people who already live here are also moving to the new areas.

It will take a while for businesses to catch up, but they will come quickly, I bet. People are swarming to live here and I would choose a new area if I were moving here.
Went to a BJ's for the first time a few weeks ago. Loved their deli counter, wish Sams had one.

No idea when restaurants and stores will be opening in large numbers down south but when the population gets big enough they will be coming in droves.

kenoc7 04-29-2021 01:33 PM
"Our area is best"
 
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Originally Posted by HoosierPa (Post 1935950)
Our area is best. That’s what you will hear.
We moved right next to Brownwood originally but after a couple years you will never go to squares. We didn’t believe it either but it happens. We moved to Marsh Bend and love it
Yes our lovely quiet area in the north end near CR42 is best.

VApeople 04-29-2021 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1936726)
Because no where else in The Villages does anyone have to make a left turn????
I make a lot of left turns onto 2-lane roads in my neighborhood where the speed limit is 25 mph.

On the other hand, I hate making left turns onto a 45 mph 4-lane road without a traffic light. I guess the residents in Chitty Chatty can handle it.

Joe V. 04-29-2021 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1937210)
I make a lot of left turns onto 2-lane roads in my neighborhood where the speed limit is 25 mph.

On the other hand, I hate making left turns onto a 45 mph 4-lane road without a traffic light. I guess the residents in Chitty Chatty can handle it.

We do. Quite well. None of my neighbors has even brought this subject up.

DON10E 04-29-2021 06:46 PM
Out of curiosity, why would you move 4 times within the villages?


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