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oneclickplus 08-17-2024 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2360930)
Put the hand cannons away. I don’t know many of these posters but the ones I do, wouldn’t make it through reception in a jail on a wrongful death charge!

Nothing says loving like a 34 oz autographed Ted Williams Louisville Slugger! :1rotfl:

If an intruder enters my home, I'm not obligated (nor do I intend) to try to ascertain his / her motives or intents. Are they after my TV? Maybe they want to take a shower? NO NO NO - I will shoot first and (especially in FL), there will be no wrongful death situation. I have no qualms about injuring or killing said intruder. This is my home. This is my safe space. Unlawful entry is a deadly proposition.

Rocksnap 08-17-2024 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bmcgowan13 (Post 2360940)
Amen.. Great idea. Not sure why some people seem entitled/obligated to execute an intruder for stealing their $500 TV.

I get the heightened sense of violation...I have had my car and my apartment broke into. The thief has certainly have earned the right to be prosecuted...but to kill somebody for stealing a TV,? an iPhone?.

Alarms are a great way to go. Most burglars run when the dog barks or the alarm goes off. Unless you have drugs, jewelry, guns or a WHOLE lot of money in the house (see drugs above) most thieves are satisfied stealing your AMAZON packages.

I despise/hate thieves--but the punishment for Petit Theft is NOT the death penalty.

To be clear. It’s not the stealing that will get the perp shot. It’s the breaking and entering.

Rocksnap 08-17-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 2361009)
How many AK-47s will you need?

Just one. But ask about magazines!

al 08-17-2024 08:16 AM

You might want to add a deadbolt lock on your house door.

Rocksnap 08-17-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361063)
There is a slider switch below the light button on the wall pad to lock/unlock the door.

The deputy who did my security assessment said to remove the rope on your garage door because people have used something inserted at the top of the door to grab the handle and disconnect the door from the opener. The door can then be lifted easily to open it.

Yes garage door openers usually have a lock switch on the wall switch. For electronic opening.
But I was thinking the other poster was referring to the MANUAL sliding lock on the garage door? No getting around that lock.

Shipping up to Boston 08-17-2024 08:18 AM

Reading these posts is akin to watching a Super Bowl with friends. Everybody is suddenly a pro athlete. My point...I don’t care where you live or what protections you think the law provides you. This country doesn’t even support LEO deadly force....what makes you think a jury of your peers is going to back yours! It’s a gamble. Make sure you’re proficient and that the situation warrants the use. And the ones that think they’ll be ok regardless....in a criminal/civil action....your posts will no doubt become part of discovery which for some here, could be problematic in a scenario as to judgement. Sometimes you just say something stupid without posting it. Save the Charles Bronson bravado for gaming

Papa_lecki 08-17-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361019)
I’m 73 and have never been in a situation where my life was threatened and I needed a gun. I don’t even know anyone who has ever needed a gun. I expect that applies to almost all of you.

Be lucky you haven’t needed it, most of us don’t.

I bet Liken Riley’s parents wish she had a gun at the University of Georgia
Or Jocelyn NUNGARAY or Rachel Morin or Terry and Brenda Aultman

Just to name a few.

LeRoySmith 08-17-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2361084)
Just one. But ask about magazines!

I practice a lot, I also subscribe to the 'accuracy by volume' school of thought.

New Englander 08-17-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2360956)
Sometimes, you just don’t know what an intruder is up to. Rape, robbery, murder, drug dazed trip? It isn’t about the death penalty. It may be about personal protection. Intruders have to know, it isn’t OK. Not every intruder falls under the more nefarious acts like Charlie Mansons tribe, but some do.

I feel the same way. I have 0 sympathy for criminals. this loser ran away when confronted by the homeowner. But, some criminals don't run, they attack, murder and rape.

LeRoySmith 08-17-2024 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 2361082)
If an intruder enters my home, I'm not obligated (nor do I intend) to try to ascertain his / her motives or intents. Are they after my TV? Maybe they want to take a shower? NO NO NO - I will shoot first and (especially in FL), there will be no wrongful death situation. I have no qualms about injuring or killing said intruder. This is my home. This is my safe space. Unlawful entry is a deadly proposition.

My step dad's first wife suffered from horrible dementia especially after dark, she was very proficient at escaping his house and finding her way into one of the neighbor's houses. I think they found her in the wrong house four or five times in her last two years of life. At one point they had an electric fence type of device that could tell when she left the house and she even evaded that. She was certainly a pia but not deserving of killing.

MikePgh 08-17-2024 08:35 AM

A dog in excess of 30 lbs or so is a better deterrent than an alarm.

JRcorvette 08-17-2024 08:52 AM

If you are going to have a weapon in your home you Better get some Training and know what the Laws are! You don’t want to go to prison for manslaughter….

Gpsma 08-17-2024 08:57 AM

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This is from the Villages Straight Shooters gun club monthly newsletter from Nov 2022. Around page 4 you will see an article entitled cautionary tale.
As far as I know this never made the news. Makes you wonder if it happens more than we know

Windguy 08-17-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2361051)
Obviously there are two unique groups in this thread, one that thinks the bad guy is in deep trouble another that thinks the bad guy needs a hug.

A sure sign of a weak argument is when someone resorts to insults to make a point.

Professor 08-17-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2360676)
It doesn’t hurt to have an alarm system and defensive weapon available in your home in The Villages.

“A husband and wife in The Villages were terrified when they were awakened in the wee hours and the husband found an intruder in their home.

The couple had been asleep in their home in the Village of Pine Ridge at about 4 a.m. Monday when they were awakened by the sound of the garage door opening, according to an arrest report from the Fruitland Park Police Department. The husband got of a bed to investigate the situation.

He entered the laundry room and found 37-year-old Barry Ray Wilbanks of Wildwood…”

https://www.**************.com/2024/...in-their-home/

Anyone entering my house at 4 AM better be coming with their hands up...just sayin'

LeRoySmith 08-17-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361117)
A sure sign of a weak argument is when someone resorts to insults to make a point.

I don't see an insult in there anywhere. I may not be the gifted orator that many here are but if you read all my posts in this string you will clearly see I'm not making fun of or insulting anyone.

It could be sensitivity levels are out of check?

mtlee024 08-17-2024 09:37 AM

Your Crazy
 
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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2360930)
Put the hand cannons away. I don’t know many of these posters but the ones I do, wouldn’t make it through reception in a jail on a wrongful death charge!

Nothing says loving like a 34 oz autographed Ted Williams Louisville Slugger! :1rotfl:

Florida has a home castle law, which means you can take deadly action against any intruder (Someone who breaks into your home). How do you know what their intentions are? Unless your a mind reader you don't. I agree give them an escape route and opportunity, but if they don't take it, protect yourself and family to the level of FL law.

Joe C. 08-17-2024 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2360770)
I suspect that just making them aware that you know they are there would send most of them running for the door - just remember to always give such people, and wild animals, an easy exit route.

Yeah, just give them an easy exit route so they can go to another house and try again, maybe injuring or killing the homeowner so they can continue their lawbreaking.
NO! Stop them any way you can. If you have a firearm, use it, and use it effectively.

bshuler 08-17-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2360700)
I agree. I have a SimpliSafe wireless alarm system ..... I don't have any central monitoring, which would cost extra.

FWIW.. Central monitoring, especially smoke detectors can bring a small discount on your homeowners policy.

Indydealmaker 08-17-2024 10:11 AM

ALWAYS terminate the threat.

Nana2Teddy 08-17-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361063)
There is a slider switch below the light button on the wall pad to lock/unlock the door.

The deputy who did my security assessment said to remove the rope on your garage door because people have used something inserted at the top of the door to grab the handle and disconnect the door from the opener. The door can then be lifted easily to open it.

Thank you! Hubby knew this, but I guess never worried about it. We also need to remove the ropes.

Shipping up to Boston 08-17-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2361141)
ALWAYS terminate the threat.

That’s fair. Just remember, the sun will always rise....just make sure your decision making let’s you enjoy it from Bonita and not from concrete enclosed ‘lanai’ in Bushnell! :1rotfl:

Shipping up to Boston 08-17-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mtlee024 (Post 2361126)
Florida has a home castle law, which means you can take deadly action against any intruder (Someone who breaks into your home). How do you know what their intentions are? Unless your a mind reader you don't. I agree give them an escape route and opportunity, but if they don't take it, protect yourself and family to the level of FL law.

It’s interesting....the header on your post is “Your crazy”?!

Feel free to read...or reread my posts on this topic. Everything I stated is in line with FL law. I gave my opinion on how I operate...nowhere will you find a post where I tell anyone to do anything other than meet that threshold. Know the law and be updated and proficient in use of a firearm. Period

The funny part of this whole thread is many of these posters are the same ones that complain about their ‘neighbors’ driving practices on MMP and roundabouts....which are wide open spaces, yet advocate and trust their abilities to use deadly force in a much more stressful and intimately closed spaces with a ‘shoot first ask questions later’ marching orders. Somehow I missed that line item in the legislation. Comical. Note to Developer, please reinstate the Octogenarian Comedy Open Mic Night at any of your squares! This stuff is gold!

Windguy 08-17-2024 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2361125)
I don't see an insult in there anywhere.

Saying that people who don’t want to kill an intruder want to hug the invader is not only insulting, but complete BS.

barbnick 08-17-2024 11:29 AM

I also keep my car remote on the bedside table to use the car alarm if need be.

gettingby 08-17-2024 11:57 AM

I think Florida law is very clear on this. I’ve he’s inside your home uninvited you can ventilate him.

TheWarriors 08-17-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361160)
Saying that people who don’t want to kill an intruder want to hug the invader is not only insulting, but complete BS.

No, actually it is what society has evolved into today. When there are no consequences for devious actions, crime increases. Unfortunately, criminals are also other people’s children and they still haven’t figured out what went wrong in their upbringing and next time they won’t break the law. Next time, next time, next time. But eventually it needs to be the last time.

justjim 08-17-2024 01:27 PM

A number of people may overreact to this incident in Pine Ridge. The Villages I believe is a very safe place to live. We have lived in TV 18 plus years without any issues or problems with crime. Having said that, I have no problem with being diligent with alarms,cameras and etc. - if that is your “thing”. Yes, a gun if you want one. To each their own. But again, IMHO The Villages is a safe place to live and I wouldn’t let such rare incidents change my lifestyle for one minute. Fore

Pugchief 08-17-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2361201)
A number of people may overreact to this incident in Pine Ridge. The Villages I believe is a very safe place to live. We have lived in TV 18 plus years without any issues or problems with crime. Having said that, I have no problem with being diligent with alarms,cameras and etc. - if that is your “thing”. Yes, a gun if you want one. To each their own. But again, IMHO The Villages is a safe place to live and I wouldn’t let such rare incidents change my lifestyle for one minute. Fore

TV is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. Includes Wildwood, Fruitland Park, Leesburg and Middleton. With more people comes more crime. Yes, it's still relatively safe, but being prepared is always better than relying on luck. By that same logic, it also wouldn't hurt to have a couple of weeks of canned goods and dry beans and some drinking water in case there is an extended power outage.

Shipping up to Boston 08-17-2024 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2361220)
TV is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. Includes Wildwood, Fruitland Park, Leesburg and Middleton. With more people comes more crime. Yes, it's still relatively safe, but being prepared is always better than relying on luck. By that same logic, it also wouldn't hurt to have a couple of weeks of canned goods and dry beans and some drinking water in case there is an extended power outage.

You forgot Lady Lake...Middleton is not an incorporated city but it’s new, younger population may...or may not present newer issues/challenges. I personally am rolling out the red carpet for this newer demo hoping I/we don’t regret its addition

CoachKandSportsguy 08-17-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2361160)
Saying that people who don’t want to kill an intruder want to hug the invader is not only insulting, but complete BS.

literally yes
figuratively no
figuratively -> with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal

Some people read more literally than others. My wife is much more literal than I am, so when I talk about certain topics, the concept of metaphorically is not her first thought.

However, it's harder to read figuratively if your primary tendency is to read most everything as literal.

I read hugs as figuratively, and metaphorical, not insulting. .
and since the post was not directly directly at anyone, nor did it mention anyone in particular, i agree with leroy that there was nothing insulting as it was metaphorical and not directed at anyone in particular

asianthree 08-17-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2361220)
TV is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. Includes Wildwood, Fruitland Park, Leesburg and Middleton. With more people comes more crime. Yes, it's still relatively safe, but being prepared is always better than relying on luck. By that same logic, it also wouldn't hurt to have a couple of weeks of canned goods and dry beans and some drinking water in case there is an extended power outage.

Were you here for the multiple years of gypsy theft sprees? That problem was long before the all areas you posted. In fact Brownwood may not have been a thriving square yet.

So the more or less people equals crime started long before the south was a glint in residents mind.

Aces4 08-17-2024 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2361226)
literally yes
figuratively no
figuratively -> with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal

Some people read more literally than others. My wife is much more literal than I am, so when I talk about certain topics, the concept of metaphorically is not her first thought.

However, it's harder to read figuratively if your primary tendency is to read most everything as literal.

I read hugs as figuratively, and metaphorical, not insulting. .
and since the post was not directly directly at anyone, nor did it mention anyone in particular, i agree with leroy that there was nothing insulting as it was metaphorical and not directed at anyone in particular

I literally enjoyed your extensive elaboration of the definition for figuratively and literally. I relished the entire composition and thank you for the enlightened moment.

New Englander 08-17-2024 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by barbnick (Post 2361165)
I also keep my car remote on the bedside table to use the car alarm if need be.

Not a bad idea.

roguesearcher 08-17-2024 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2360767)
This is a tough situation. I hate to see anyone die unnecessarily but when a crook breaks into an occupied house/car they just let me know they value their life less than what they are after. If this happens to me I hope I have the wherewithal and time to assess the situation to gage whether they are violent before I start shooting. It could be a fairly innocent act, someone lost or out of their mind.

People have been killed for less.

Byte1 08-17-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2361105)
If you are going to have a weapon in your home you Better get some Training and know what the Laws are! You don’t want to go to prison for manslaughter….

Like the saying goes "better to be tried by 12 than buried by 6. I agree that anyone that owns a gun should practice, but I don't know anyone that owns a gun that doesn't. As for those that want to hug the thief/burglar, if you live next to me, I will put a sign on my door saying "owner has gun and enjoys practice. The guy next door is anti-gun."
I once responded to a call of a burglary in progress that was a fast 15 min drive with lights and siren. Then the dispatcher called and said that the neighbors caught the guy and were beating the ***** out of him. I slowed down to a safe speed so that I wouldn't accidentally kill someone in my hurry. Obviously, the situation was under control.:clap2:

Blueblaze 08-17-2024 06:21 PM

Our alarm chimes whenever the garage (or any exterior) door opens, whether the alarm is on or not, and I sleep with a shotgun under the bed. Mr. Willbanks is very lucky he didn't pick my house.

Stu from NYC 08-17-2024 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2361247)
Like the saying goes "better to be tried by 12 than buried by 6. I agree that anyone that owns a gun should practice, but I don't know anyone that owns a gun that doesn't. As for those that want to hug the thief/burglar, if you live next to me, I will put a sign on my door saying "owner has gun and enjoys practice. The guy next door is anti-gun."
I once responded to a call of a burglary in progress that was a fast 15 min drive with lights and siren. Then the dispatcher called and said that the neighbors caught the guy and were beating the ***** out of him. I slowed down to a safe speed so that I wouldn't accidentally kill someone in my hurry. Obviously, the situation was under control.:clap2:

My kind of police officer

JMintzer 08-17-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2361084)
Just one. But ask about magazines!

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b7/2a/49/b...63f483fbad.jpg

JMintzer 08-17-2024 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2361155)
It’s interesting....the header on your post is “Your crazy”?!

Feel free to read...or reread my posts on this topic. Everything I stated is in line with FL law. I gave my opinion on how I operate...nowhere will you find a post where I tell anyone to do anything other than meet that threshold. Know the law and be updated and proficient in use of a firearm. Period

The funny part of this whole thread is many of these posters are the same ones that complain about their ‘neighbors’ driving practices on MMP and roundabouts....which are wide open spaces, yet advocate and trust their abilities to use deadly force in a much more stressful and intimately closed spaces with a ‘shoot first ask questions later’ marching orders. Somehow I missed that line item in the legislation. Comical. Note to Developer, please reinstate the Octogenarian Comedy Open Mic Night at any of your squares! This stuff is gold!

I seem to remember someone posting about once you start tossing out insults, you're lost the argument...


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