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Bogie Shooter 08-28-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2130604)
Southern Oaks was the only golf course built in the last 8 years ... it was on the "promise program" for at least 3 years prior to that.

The southern area is scheduled for a couple of Exec courses & Pitch and Putt venues. As far as I know, there are zero confirmed sightings, of a new Championship course under construction, anywhere in The Villages.

You should fire whoever is providing you information…………..

UpNorth 08-28-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2130594)
Shady Brook Golf Resort just south of The Villages on Route 301.

Ha! Good one! Deplorable conditions but cheap and fun to play. Front nine used to be a theme park, complete with dinosaurs. Most likely the worst course conditions you've ever experienced. You get what you pay for.

Tvflguy 08-28-2022 09:31 AM

From the OP. I’m almost sorry I brought the whole thing up.

Like a North<>South Civil War.

Yikes folks let’s be civil and not throw stones. My intent was simply to provide my personal info on our experience.

MSGirl 08-28-2022 09:45 AM

Belle Glade isn’t too far. Stop over there or Bonifay or Havana on your way back home! They serve ice cold beer in pitchers! And you can enjoy yourselves!

Bogie Shooter 08-28-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2130660)
From the OP. I’m almost sorry I brought the whole thing up.

Like a North<>South Civil War.

Yikes folks let’s be civil and not throw stones. My intent was simply to provide my personal info on our experience.

Simple , go back and read your post. How many controversial statements inciting a response?

Kenswing 08-28-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2130660)
From the OP. I’m almost sorry I brought the whole thing up.

Like a North<>South Civil War.

Yikes folks let’s be civil and not throw stones. My intent was simply to provide my personal info on our experience.

No you’re not. You love starting threads like this. lol

Reminds me of another user. Did you have another username before this one?

JMintzer 08-28-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2130511)
Only if you want to drive 30 minutes or so on average from the north but wait, you already have a hospital with the best emergency department in TV..

I'm north of 44 and I'm closer to where they will build the new hospital than you are...

JMintzer 08-28-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2130516)
One nice thing about “down here” is that most of the people are still young and energetic. They’re also not snobs.

Except about those in the north...

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I still can’t wrap my mind around why so many people up north just can’t be happy that we’re happy. It’s just weird.
I feel the same way about people in the south who trash people in the north...

But I'm smack dab in the middle so I can trash all of you! :loco::loco::loco:

golfing eagles 08-28-2022 11:08 AM

OK, 83 posts for something that is very simple:

If you don't like Southern Oaks, don't play it
If you don't like the prices at Sawgrass, don't eat/drink there
If you don't like bugs, use a spray or take up mah jong.
If you're looking for champagne on a beer budget, rotsa ruck

Pretty easy, huh?????

JMintzer 08-28-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2130711)
OK, 83 posts for something that is very simple:

If you don't like Southern Oaks, don't play it
If you don't like the prices at Sawgrass, don't eat/drink there
If you don't like bugs, use a spray or take up mah jong.
If you're looking for champagne on a beer budget, rotsa ruck

Pretty easy, huh?????

Nah, much easier to bitch and moan...

JMintzer 08-28-2022 11:15 AM

I played Bonifay, back in July. I was also swarmed by those black "mosquitoes" on a few holes. Both times, when it was when I hit a ball down by the water's edge...

I learned to stay away from the water!

It's not just Southern Oaks that has them...

BigSteph 08-28-2022 11:28 AM

I live in Hawkins, too. The bugs are not bad during the day -- at dusk, they are horrible in Hawkins.

There is noise in Hawkins -- there is nowhere you go in Hawkins that you cannot hear the turnpike -- sometimes it is very minor and other times loud.

St. Johns is worse than Hawkins -- I've walked every inch of both.

No disrespect, but it is like we live in two different Hawkins.




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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2130282)
I live in Hawkins and have never once seen any swarms of blind mosquitoes nor do I hear traffic noise. Also, tell the guy to ask the price before ordering if price is a concern. they have the menus sitting ALL OVER THE BAR with the prices listed. I have to laugh at all you folks who post a thread about prices you paid as if they hid the price from you. As another person said, get yourself a six-pack and load up that cooler.


BigSteph 08-28-2022 11:45 AM

There is a lot to dislike about South of 44 in The Villages -- I won't debate that.

What I do like, which is turning lemons into lemonade, is that my Village is bordered by the Turnpike and a County or State, dunno, protected preserve. There will never be apartments, section 8 housing, Fish Games, multi-generational housing, etc. near my home -- everything is done, landlocked. In 5 years, I won't have to complain about scenic farmland turning into apartments, etc. I don't have to worry about any encroachment -- it cannot happen.

I like that we are closer to the airports, Universal, Disney, Tampa, etc. The turnpike is just a couple of miles away, 75 is just 5 minutes away. Costco, coming to Claremont, is just 40 minutes away. I like Orlando area shopping more than Ocala area shopping.

Shops and stores will come to the south -- Middleton and Eastport areas -- they will be new and clean. There will not be old and dingy communities near the south -- at least, not near the new lands of The Villages. There will be less blending of those communities -- which seems rampant in the north and middle Villages.

There is, genuinely, a LOT to like about the northern Villages, no doubt.

I've just learned to appreciate what I have.


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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2130326)
The primary issue is the lack of amenities in the southern section of The Villages and that will continue. The business model for the south, is different than the older sections of The Villages and shows no sign of changing. There's only 1 reasonably accessible golf course and it's glorified pit. When you're the only game in town, you can be unreasonable with pricing, quality and playability.

In my opinion, the southern areas of The Villages are marketed with smoke & mirrors. It's nothing like northern area and never will be. It doesn't look like The Villages, it doesn't "feel" like The Villages and the demographic is different.


Laker14 08-28-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2130200)
We golfed today at Southern Oaks. On the back 9 today. The Misquitoes were HORRENDOUS!!!
If it was up to me I was ready to quit on hole #12 and go back to the Starter for a credit. But the other guys wanted to stick it out. It just got worse. Especially close to the water…. We passed by a white service truck off the cart path and the side was covered with hundreds of them. It truly ruined the round as we simply had to rush shots. Not fun…

We decided to drown our sorrows with a beer at the center Bar at Sawgrass. The guy buying brought 4 plastic glasses of beer and said “guess how much”. We all guessed $4 a glass. He said they don’t serve in pitchers as we typically get after rounds at other places. And they charged $7.00 per glass!!! Was like almost $30! A pitcher at other TV restaurants is about $13. What a ripoff.

So, we won’t golf at Southern Oaks until fall, and no more Sawgrass. Yikes.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2130676)
Simple , go back and read your post. How many controversial statements inciting a response?

I don't see anything controversial in the OP, unless you find complaining about mosquitos and high prices for beer in plastic cups controversial. I'd bet one of those $7 beers that if the OP had an identical couple of complaints about Lopez, the folks who live north of 466 wouldn't get all upset and take it as a personal affront.

I don't care who lives where, I don't need to bash anyone about their choices, or what they like about their area, and I don't care who doesn't like things about where someone else lives.
As an impartial observer, my take is that any criticism of anything in the newer southern areas is taken as an insult by some who live down there.

coffeebean 08-28-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2130650)
Plans for future additions include three more championship courses, six executive layouts, three pitch-and-putts, a putting course, and a southern branch of The Villages Golf Academy with driving range.

Work has started on at least two Championship and one of the Exec courses South of the Turnpike described the the Continuing the Dream" videos.

Take a drive down Marshbend Trail and 470 of you haven't lately. They are working as far as the eye can see.

Next stop........Disney World!


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