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Bogie Shooter 05-10-2015 09:41 AM

Let is rest..............................

janmcn 05-10-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 1057920)
And if it is not resolved, prospective buyers have the option of buying elsewhere if bus trips with friends are a priority for them.

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1058292)
Do you really think that would be a high priority?

It could be a priority for people who live here and no longer drive or own a car and use these bus trips as a way to socialize and visit different places. Also people who formerly used the free Amtrak bus could be effected when they want to visit friends or family.

graciegirl 05-10-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1058320)
That's about the new gate that was installed after the removal of the WALL the developer installed on a Saturday night so nobody could leave or enter the V(r)illages from Paradise Road north of Boone CT.

"Mr Morse take down this wall" Graffiti by villagers who can't get out or in - pic is taken from inside TV:


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Chuck, Have you decided to move from Stonecrest to The Villages? We would enjoy having you here with us.

dbussone 05-10-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1058305)
So instead of 4,000 more carts you get 4,000 more cars and no tour bus parking - HAPPY NOW!



Before the closure of the Paradise access that had been used for many years with the approval of the Lady Lake Town Council, there were probably 100 or so carts a day from Stonecrest mainly going to Spanish Springs on the public roads; maybe a few went further and used the precious multi modal paths south of 466, aka Lower Eqypt.





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Lower Egypt is a good place to be. Historically though Lower Egypt is to the north of Upper Egypt. So it sounds as though you might be in Lower Egypt. Isn't history fun

chuckinca 05-10-2015 02:01 PM

Don't you mean geographically, which is fun too.

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CFrance 05-10-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1058201)
There was NO LIE when they began negotiation....That is the reason the wall was abruptly closed...and then a few weeks later there was a pass installed that used our Villages access card to open it.

So a new precedent was set. NOW, if you want to drive your golf cart in The Villages, you have to live in The Villages.

We really didn't need four thousand more golf carts on our trails that didn't belong to villagers.

I think they are doing the same about the tour buses. They are establishing a new precedent for some good reason other than competition. They sold off the Village transporation system and no longer run it.

I disagree with your analogy. The gate was keeping non villagers off of the golf cart paths. Forcing the excursion buses off Villages property is kicking Villagers out of their own community parking.

maddie101 05-10-2015 09:49 PM

if five women are playing Mah Jongg at Rec Center xyz and then we decide to go to lunch outside of TV. PLAYER # 1 says she will drive. Are we allowed to leave our cars there while we leave ? And what if we decide to go shopping after lunch? Is there a time limit?

graciegirl 05-11-2015 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 1058622)
if five women are playing Mah Jongg at Rec Center xyz and then we decide to go to lunch outside of TV. PLAYER # 1 says she will drive. Are we allowed to leave our cars there while we leave ? And what if we decide to go shopping after lunch? Is there a time limit?

No.

And if five women decide to have a Tupperware party at the rec center so one of them can make money. it isn't allowed. And if five women decide to buy a bus and take turns driving people to the beach and tell their clients to park at the rec center, should it be allowed? Should there be a time limit?

And if a huge industry that backs gambling wants to advertise that their central Florida pick up is at The Villages and they can park at colony for a day trip to the boat, should it be allowed? Sometimes the powers that be know more than we do. Their decisions seem to have been wise so far. We don't really want outside, for profit entities using our common areas.

CFrance 05-11-2015 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1058673)
No.

And if five women decide to have a Tupperware party at the rec center so one of them can make money. it isn't allowed. And if five women decide to buy a bus and take turns driving people to the beach and tell their clients to park at the rec center, should it be allowed? Should there be a time limit?

And if a huge industry that backs gambling wants to advertise that their central Florida pick up is at The Villages and they can park at colony for a day trip to the boat, should it be allowed? Sometimes the powers that be know more than we do. Their decisions seem to have been wise so far. We don't really want outside, for profit entities using our common areas.

Why do you keep bringing gambling into this? Who is doing this?

redwitch 05-11-2015 06:35 AM

I don't think anyone says the gambling buses should be allowed to use the rec center parking lots. So far as I know, they never have. We're talking about charter buses picking up residents to go on an outing.

I've been at Laurel Manor when a bus picked up a group to go to a baseball game. This was during the high season. Most of the day trippers parked in the far corner. There was still sufficient parking for rec center activities. The trippers were quiet, lined up and happy. It's a shame to take this away from them.

skip0358 05-11-2015 06:38 AM

The practice of buses coming into TV to take people on day trips has been going on since I moved here 6 years ago and I'm sure it was done long before then. The outside bus companies offer a cheaper price then those inside. They offer different venue options then those inside. They have more buses then those inside. They let the clubs plan and price their trips & then charter one of their buses. The one thing they ALL have in common is the amount of parking spaces that the people riding on them take up. So it's not about the parking it's the money. Yea TV wants you to support the local company at a higher price then an outside vendor period. If 38 golf carts are parked in ANY location how does anyone know where those people are ? Before you ask that's about how many are needed for a 56 passenger bus and if needed they can park all 38 in 10 spaces.
This new change is affecting a lot more people then those few have been posting on here. Many haven't realized it yet as it hasn't affected them yet.

looneycat 05-11-2015 07:02 AM

who has been unable to charter a bus as of today? all I've heard is BS, who so far has cancelled a trlp as a result? please don't bother to reply if you haven't because you can only answer with conjecture (BS) otherwise.

outlaw 05-11-2015 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1058710)
who has been unable to charter a bus as of today? all I've heard is BS, who so far has cancelled a trlp as a result? please don't bother to reply if you haven't because you can only answer with conjecture (BS) otherwise.

Uh, I think it's past the conjecture stage when it has officially been acknowledged that all the bus companies have been given trespass notifications. Or did I misread something? The fact that one hasn't cancelled a trip doesn't mean that the residents are not inconvenienced, or that they are not booking trips, or that they are not paying more to the "approved" company for the same service.

graciegirl 05-11-2015 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1058697)
I don't think anyone says the gambling buses should be allowed to use the rec center parking lots. So far as I know, they never have. We're talking about charter buses picking up residents to go on an outing.

I've been at Laurel Manor when a bus picked up a group to go to a baseball game. This was during the high season. Most of the day trippers parked in the far corner. There was still sufficient parking for rec center activities. The trippers were quiet, lined up and happy. It's a shame to take this away from them.




You are right.

LndLocked 05-11-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1058673)
No.

And if five women decide to have a Tupperware party at the rec center so one of them can make money. it isn't allowed. And if five women decide to buy a bus and take turns driving people to the beach and tell their clients to park at the rec center, should it be allowed? Should there be a time limit?

And if a huge industry that backs gambling wants to advertise that their central Florida pick up is at The Villages and they can park at colony for a day trip to the boat, should it be allowed? Sometimes the powers that be know more than we do. Their decisions seem to have been wise so far. We don't really want outside, for profit entities using our common areas.


"We" ..... for whom do you speak??


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