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Stu from NYC 09-18-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 2137695)
The Developer owns the movie theaters, but they do not do anything unless it makes a profit. Remember Katie Belle's?

Agreed. If they felt they needed the theaters to sell homes they would be open as a loss leader. Since it is not necessary why anyone expect them to lose money.

Just jimmy 09-18-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 2137695)
The Developer owns the movie theaters, but they do not do anything unless it makes a profit. Remember Katie Belle's?

If you owned them would you run them without a profit?? No.

MSGirl 09-18-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kjk42561 (Post 2137291)
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.

Nationally, due to Covid casualties, theater corporations are going out of business. Because of Covid, less or no movies were being made and the demand changed. I recently went to a movie at the theater. When I got home after the movie, it was being shown on tv. This was a first released movie! Times are changing!

Regorp 09-18-2022 08:42 AM

Theater
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2137397)
If there was enough demand for movie watching would have already been opened. Most of the time it is pretty much empty so why open two more?

There is a very nice theater in Lake County that is far superior to what is here.

For most action oriented movies the big screen is best, so AMC is our choice and a trip to Leesburg. The Villages loss, is Leesburg's gain.

dyendell 09-18-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137294)
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.

Have they seen the lines at Sumter?

MrFlorida 09-18-2022 09:25 AM

Not too many good movies these days, especially for us seniors. I think the industry as a whole is pricing themselves out of business.

Taltarzac725 09-18-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dyendell (Post 2137753)
Have they seen the lines at Sumter?

There are long lines there sometimes.

BlueHeronFan 09-18-2022 10:52 AM

People realized during lockdown that you can watch current run movies on Prime etc for $7.99 and put a bag of popcorn in the microwave. I used to enjoy going to the theatres but $20-25 for 2 for movie and snack bar can be better on own TV.

coffeebean 09-18-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137585)
They could keep both open.

That would be great too.

Dond1959 09-18-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137542)
The developers own the movie theaters.


They do not lease them out.

You can rent these for an evening for parties and the like. Rented Spaces - The Villages Entertainment

Do you really think if someone came to the developer with a viable business plan to lease the theater the developer would turn them away? I am sure the developer would just keep it closed to spite all these villagers…😂😂😂

Chi-Town 09-18-2022 11:15 AM

Remember that the Barnstorm had a restaurant planned also. As did the Rialto.
Similar concept to Lazy Mac's.

Dond1959 09-18-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 2137534)
Tal, if it is such a great business to be in then develop a business plan and lease the closed theater in Brownwood with YOUR capital. It amazes me how people will tell the developer how to use their capital. I guarantee you the developer knows exactly how many people go to the theater in Lake Sumter. If there was so much demand and they could make a reasonable profit they would open Brownwood. At least for now in the US, no business is required to lose money on an operation just because some people on the internet feel the need for a specific business to open up.[/QUOTE

Lighten up on Tal. Its an interesting thread that doesn't need a lecture

It is a topic that has been beaten to death over the past few months and for many just another way to try and bash the developer. If it made FINANCIAL sense to open up the theater don’t you think the developer would open it to make a profit?

coffeebean 09-18-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2137598)
Heck, the Southern folks can go to the AMC theater in Leesburg which is better than any theater in The Villages. It’s closer than LSL and about 5 minutes farther than Brownwood.

Agree. The southern villages are closer to Leesburg. That theater has the recliner seating.

JMintzer 09-18-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 2137822)

It is a topic that has been beaten to death over the past few months and for many just another way to try and bash the developer. If it made FINANCIAL sense to open up the theater don’t you think the developer would open it to make a profit?

I'm sorry... Logic and reason have no place in this discussion...:icon_wink:

Taltarzac725 09-18-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2137887)
I'm sorry... Logic and reason have no place in this discussion...:icon_wink:

It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.

What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.

JMintzer 09-18-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137892)
It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.

What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.

Without seeing the books, you haven't a clue about "profit nor for loss"...

Logic and reason say that profitable business stay open, businesses losing money do not... The simple answer is usually the correct answer...

Dond1959 09-18-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137892)
It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.

What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.

Then take them to court and sue them for false advertising. I am sure Morgan and Morgan will take your multimillion dollar case.

Aces4 09-18-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2137733)
For most action oriented movies the big screen is best, so AMC is our choice and a trip to Leesburg. The Villages loss, is Leesburg's gain.

I’d suggest you invest in a very large tv, surround sound and snacks. You’ll never miss a movie theater other than the fact you’ll have to clean your own restroom.

windylou 09-18-2022 04:30 PM

Rating Movies ...
 
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.

DonnaNi4os 09-18-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk42561 (Post 2137291)
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.

I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.

Taltarzac725 09-18-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2137929)
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.


Nicely put.

Stu from NYC 09-18-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2137929)
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.

One large theater group recently decided to close its door as it count not keep their doors open. Sadly it is a declining industry

DaleDivine 09-18-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 2137928)
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.

I don't watch movies at the theatres or on TV.. Only golf on the weekends.
Too many Hollywood nuts have a different view of politics than me.

:loco::loco::swear:

Stu from NYC 09-18-2022 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2137937)
I don't watch movies at the theatres or on TV.. Only golf on the weekends.
Too many Hollywood nuts have a different view of politics than me.

:loco::loco::swear:

Watch for the movie could care less what actors think.

Nucky 09-18-2022 06:04 PM

I think you could stand on your head and spit Chicklets and wish and hope and talk about it this way then talk about the other two theaters opening another way and no matter how you present your argument and wishes I'm almost completely certain that in the end, the Sum Total will be NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING!

There are other options, use them. Let's get onto something else already.

coffeebean 09-18-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2137908)
Without seeing the books, you haven't a clue about "profit nor for loss"...

Logic and reason say that profitable business stay open, businesses losing money do not... The simple answer is usually the correct answer...

That is true but......The Villages should no longer "tout" a movie theater in each square in their literature, if in fact, it still does state that. That would be considered false advertising.

coffeebean 09-18-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2137920)
I’d suggest you invest in a very large tv, surround sound and snacks. You’ll never miss a movie theater other than the fact you’ll have to clean your own restroom.

IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.

coffeebean 09-18-2022 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 2137928)
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.

What is wrong with PG-13 and R rated movies? Pearl clutching?

coffeebean 09-18-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2137938)
Watch for the movie could care less what actors think.

My sister said she will NEVER EVER watch another Meryl Streep movie......well, maybe just Mama Mia but THAT'S IT!!!

Rotflmao!!!

Nucky 09-18-2022 06:49 PM

I ask myself the question. Do I feel slighted by the closure of these theaters after it was advertised six years ago that there were three and now there is only one? The answer comes back that I feel like I still got the deal of a lifetime and feel lucky that I have one theater if there is a movie 🎥 I’m going to die if I can’t see it Pronto Prente. Give up the battle!

Stu from NYC 09-18-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2137947)
My sister said she will NEVER EVER watch another Meryl Streep movie......well, maybe just Mama Mia but THAT'S IT!!!

Rotflmao!!!

They can be great actors or actresses and unfortunately many of them have the morals of _________. Lets just say no morals and their opinions are not something I am interested in.

Taltarzac725 09-18-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2137956)
They can be great actors or actresses and unfortunately many of them have the morals of _________. Lets just say no morals and their opinions are not something I am interested in.

That applies to many people. Some of the great actors and actresses are great people. Some aren't. My Dad used to handle insurance claims of the rich and famous and some of them were anything but nice.

JMintzer 09-18-2022 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 2137928)
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.

"Old" people find PG13 too salty?

JMintzer 09-18-2022 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2137929)
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.

Movie theaters have gone "belly up" all over the country...

They ArcLight theater in the mall nearest my home in MD closed permanently (as did all of the ArcLight theaters, nation wide...

AMC just recently bought them out and reopened the theater. We've gone a half a dozen times for first run movies. Never more than 1/2 filled...

JMintzer 09-18-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2137944)
IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.

Just out of curiosity, how many time have YOU been to see a movie at the LSL theater this year?

coffeebean 09-18-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2137975)
Just out of curiosity, how many time have YOU been to see a movie at the LSL theater this year?

I have not gone to the Old Mill Playhouse because it does not have all the newer features that other theaters in the area have. I've only seen three movies since the start of this year. West Side Story, Elvis and Top Gun Maverick are those three movies. I would not waster my money and my time to see these movies at the LSL theater. I much prefer to travel and get the full experience with huge screens and a sound system that will knock you socks off. In fact, during the flying scenes in the Top Gun movie, the seats VIBRATED during the action. OMG.....my heart was in my mouth.

Oh.....and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the recliner seats in these theaters with NO HEADS to ruin my view. There are fantastic theaters outside of The Villages!!!

EDIT: I just remembered......I did see Elvis once at the Old Mill Playhouse. It was great but not nearly the experience I had seeing it in Mt. Dora at an Epic Theater.

JMintzer 09-18-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2137976)
I have not gone to the Old Mill Playhouse because it does not have all the newer features that other theaters in the area have. I've only seen three movies since the start of this year. West Side Story, Elvis and Top Gun Maverick are those three movies. I would not waster my money and my time to see these movies at the LSL theater. I much prefer to travel and get the full experience with huge screens and a sound system that will knock you socks off. In fact, during the flying scenes in the Top Gun movie, the seats VIBRATED during the action. OMG.....my heart was in my mouth.

Oh.....and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the recliner seats in these theaters with NO HEADS to ruin my view. There are fantastic theaters outside of The Villages!!!

EDIT: I just remembered......I did see Elvis once at the Old Mill Playhouse. It was great but not nearly the experience I had seeing it in Mt. Dora at an Epic Theater.

Thank you for explaining why they're not reopening the other theaters...

Aces4 09-18-2022 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2137944)
IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.

Apparently, most people think like me and a trip to the theater is much like going to the dime store now. It’s lost it’s charm and it’s more of a germ spreader than watching movies at home. The list goes on and on…

EdFNJ 09-18-2022 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137617)
The developers sponsor the movie theaters. They are not like the restaurants nearby that survive or fail based on their bottom line.

EVERYTHING survives or fails based on "the bottom line." Katie Belles and that Country Club as 2 examples. They aren't in it to lose money.

EdFNJ 09-18-2022 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyendell (Post 2137753)
Have they seen the lines at Sumter?

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2137804)
There are long lines there sometimes.

Yea, when the tickets are $5 (actually isn't cheap day $6 now?) and they are losing their pants just to get people in to hopefully buy overpriced candy and popcorn if they aren't hiding it under their pants.


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