100,000 plus residents....there just has to be somebody doing something wrong or bad every day......but we should think about the other 99,999 of us that didn't (that day).

And we all know nobody would tell a tall tale or bend the truth.....no siree bob....not on an anonymous forum right:a20:

btk

I find it hard to understand why people have a hard time believing the fact that there are robberies in TV. There are 100,000 people living here and opportunists abound. Recently I was having my garage floor painted and left some items out on the lawn, guess what, someone came along and took a trunk in broad daylight. I know, you want to tell me he thought it was garbage; I myself would never ASSUME that something on the lawn was fair pickins. It was obvious that work was being done on the driveway as well as the garage floor. I consider this a trivial matter but i also know my home and person need to be protected at all times by being vigilent and locking doors. It's the only intelligent thing to do.

Darn kids

That's what Glock's are used for! :a20:

It isn't that I don't think that crimes can and are committed here. I just also know that many rumors are started and catch on like wild fire.

I originally thought, when reading the first post that it could have been this story somehow retold. Same area.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...t-theft-47313/

One of our neighbors, who USED to leave the gaarage door open, saw a snake in the garage last week. As I said, they USED to leave their garage door open.

Seems kinda careless to leave easy access to your home. We may live in The Villages with a false sense of security but there are creeps everywhere.

See, you CAN fix stupid!

Okay, then I'll say I'm stubborn - and I know you can't fix that. Garage door is left 1/3 of the way open to allow heat to escape.

'S okay, Gomoho... you be Stubborn and I'll be Stupid!:beer3:

With all due respect, how do you fix paranoid?

Two fingers of scotch on ice around 5PM!

I was gonna say Dr. Phil, but Bogie has a better idea.

Good answer----of course, it's 5 o'clock somewhere!

If you want to cool the garage, open the window.

Great post. Those who think The Villages is completely secure because we have those gates in place that anyone can get through, are just not too smart. And we have some posters, probably affiliated with the developer, that will try to downplay any crime, because they are concerned it may negatively affect housing sales. I do think most people use common sense and realize there are burglaries that take place, and take adequate precautions. We all get lax and it doesn't hurt to be reminded every now and then to lock our front doors and keep the garage door down.

It isn't completely secure but I would be one of those people who think this place is more safe than most places in the U.S. I come from 73 years of living in places that are low crime and I think this is similar to those places.

Of course we should use common sense. Common sense is looking out the window and not seeing strangers walking around the neighborhood. Common sense is knowing if a yard crew came in to the house to rob it, they wouldn't get very far. Common sense tells you that almost everyone is NOT working but keeping our eye on our stuff and our neighbors stuff and dogs pooping etc.etc. Common sense and gates that anyone could enter doesn't even enter the equation. I don't think robberies, burglaries and vandalism occur much here. We all ride around a lot in our golf carts and we all are watching what is happening and a good many of us are telling what happens here. We come from the ethical generation and most of us are ethical, responsible and aware. That is how we were able to have the smarts to live our lives so we could retire to a great place like this.

A lot of people are positive about this place in a most genuine manner and they are not paid for it. There are some documented cases of moderate thinkers slightly to the right who are honest and fairly smart.

I don't need common sense - I have to big dogs (aka pooping machines).

We had a contractor do some work not too long ago, and he mentioned he had left a piece of equipment at a client's house by mistake. When he went back to pick it up the next morning, it had gone missing. I have friend who works at one of the pro shops who mentioned that they had part of a golf display stolen, and they ended up catching the guy because he had come in and paid his green fees, then when the clerk went out back for something he had committed the theft, but they caught him on video. There have been instances of golf club thefts from carts at the country clubs when people go in for lunch.

This isn't scary, violent crime, but it obviously happens, in spite of most residents being ethical. And it is not being "negative" to bring up these points, but it is being "helpful" especially to new residents who aren't aware that this type of thing happens. When our foursome plays golf we always try to park our carts where we can see them when we go in for lunch. Some people have bought locks for their bag of clubs, and even locks for the golf carts themselves, since there was a rash of golf cart thefts a few years ago. There is no reason anyone should feel threatened by bringing these facts up.

I absolutely agree with every word in this post.

I don't think anyone feels threatened, but do we have to keep beating a dead horse?

What years of birth cover the "ethical generation" and what years are the unethical generations?

:clap2:

Well since you asked............

I think the ethical generation(s) came from the children raised by moms and dads who beat the livin' crap out outa kids if they stole something, or got in trouble at school. I think that the ethical generation spewed forth from being monitored 24/7 by someone who loved you to death and had a very intense interest in how you turned out. I think we were scared into having a conscience and I think that a certain group of us learned a lot more about values because we didn't have as MUCH as the people who are now under 55. I think that those of us who had our shoes repaired and our vegetables canned and our fannies spanked belong to the ethical generation(s).

The rest of the folks running around with their underpants showing and those who weren't expected to have summer jobs or need summer jobs and those who are given new cars and fished out of "slight embarrassments" at school, who never lived in a family with one car and one bathroom and two to a sleeping room, and didn't HAVE to do what they were told and couldn't afford dance lessons or tutoring to get them through school belong to the not quite so ethical generations. FEAR of consequences is an awesome catalyst for ethical behavior.

I may be wrong and frequently am.

I just don't tend to throw people into vast generalizations as much as the "ethical generation" seems to. I know plenty of shysters who are over the age of 55. I also know plenty of youngsters who got a car at 16 and have a lot more morals and ethics than some folks in their 60's.
There are plenty of "I'm entitled" folks over the age of 60. Many seem to think that having lived in the "shoe repair" days makes them entitled to forget about common courtesy and ethics. I see quite a few in TV and even on this message board.

I'll say!

Don't forget mean spirited too.;)

I might add....Who raised the "unethical" generation?????
Who voted for the people that shape the laws of the "unethical" generation?
And finally, the "ethical" generation are the people in Washington now!
Just because you are seasoned, doesn't make you ethical......

I know you are younger, but no one mentioned any unethical generation.
Those who understand this issue are older.

And you are right of course. I was generally speaking that if you lose your clubs here in this place of OLD people, most of the time they are returned and not pawned.

From don't leave your garage door open, to unethical genration, we have now come full circle

You are SO right. This thread has become toooooooo argumentative with not a judge of who is right.



Or boring???? Which is even worse.

Moderator? Shut me up!

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:I'm ETHICAL

:BigApplause: Nicely said.

It is upsetting to hear that you think beating the livin crap out of children is a good and ethical thing.When I grew up I had the misfortune of meeting many, many creeps who had absolutely no ethics as well as fine upstanding people. Today there are children who live exemplary lives but the press never reports the good only the bad. When I was growing up the media including print and TV were not running the country as they are now and influencing how we perceive our neighbors. Growing up I can't tell you how many times I heard about the despicable hippies, the radical college kids, and how the negro's are getting uppity, on and on ad nauseum.

It appears to me looking down on the youth while patting ourselves on the back is a generational thing.

By the way, many of the Priests who molested children were from my generation but we were too cowed by authority to take action.

I have high hopes for the generations coming up because they have the same creator I have.

:BigApplause: Well said. Sweeping generalizations can definitely be a generational thing.

Duffy's mom. I really DIDN'T mean beating the livin' crap out of kids but I do stand for spanking for the right things or a very strict time out that means time out. AND I did mean making a point about stealing and wrongdoing and KNOWING what the kids were doing because we were the folks who were raising them. I also have fine and upstanding adult grandkids and their friends are as well and they are employed!. I don't think the kids I know are bad but the kids generally seem to be getting into a lot more trouble than when we were kids. I don't recall kids being murderers frequently back then.

I hope I have the same creator you do too. I have high hopes for kids raised a lot like we were raised and a lot like our kids were raised. I remember early on listening to a psychologist who came to speak to a group of us young PTA parents and what he said stuck with me. That you can always take away rules if you have too many, but that kids need absolutes when they are little and the perimeters can be broadened when they grow older. In other words don't start disciplining a teenager, it's too late.

People who sexually abuse kids are still with us and they aren't just priests unfortunately and that in itself makes it even more important to be with children as much as you can if you are their parent. It is not only the big things but the little things. It is the protecting and the cookie giving and the kisses and kindness and hugs and winks and the togetherness that forms a small child's character. AND seeing us forms our children. It isn't what we tell them, it is what we ARE they will become...and that goes for the folks who are the caregivers to todays generation. Important to vette them well.

Things have changed...and some things are for the better and some aren't.

I am sure you are right and I am sure I didn't make my point clearly, It is twice now in 24 hours I have been nailed for exaggeration. I never had the livin' crap beat outa me nor did I beat my children. I did get a few spankings.

This actually reminds me of the Union argument. Just because you've been around longer, that makes you better.
Well, I'm here to tell you, in my experiences around TVs, longevity doesn't always equal ethical or common sense!

Originally Posted by graciegirl
Well since you asked............

I think the ethical generation(s) came from the children raised by moms and dads who beat the livin' crap out outa kids if they stole something, or got in trouble at school. I think that the ethical generation spewed forth from being monitored 24/7 by someone who loved you to death and had a very intense interest in how you turned out. I think we were scared into having a conscience and I think that a certain group of us learned a lot more about values because we didn't have as MUCH as the people who are now under 55. I think that those of us who had our shoes repaired and our vegetables canned and our fannies spanked belong to the ethical generation(s).

The rest of the folks running around with their underpants showing and those who weren't expected to have summer jobs or need summer jobs and those who are given new cars and fished out of "slight embarrassments" at school, who never lived in a family with one car and one bathroom and two to a sleeping room, and didn't HAVE to do what they were told and couldn't afford dance lessons or tutoring to get them through school belong to the not quite so ethical generations. FEAR of consequences is an awesome catalyst for ethical behavior.

I may be wrong and frequently am.
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I can see any number of things about your "ethical generation" that I wouldn't be too proud of. Thinking of the Vietnam war, the history of discrimination against people of color in this country; the history of discrimination against women in this country, and so on. The baby boomers started questioning social values and had a more altruistic bent. They formed protests against the Vietnam war, and paved the way for our withdrawal of troops; had heroes like Martin Luther King and oversaw integration; passed laws giving women rights they were entitled to....and each generation that follows will build on the previous generation. I don't think it is valid to say any particular generation has the moral high ground.

I don't think Gracie was claiming her generation had cornered the market on "moral high ground". What I saw in her post, because I've experienced it, is that our parents and grandparents were tough on crime, managed and raised the kids with Tough Love before it had a name other than "a damn good kick in the pants", it didn't take a master's or PhD in psychology to raise a self-supporting, law-abiding and caring citizen, and we saw some of the juvenile delinquents-in-the-making turn around and do a 180 because a caring disciplinarian adult in their life got thru to them that they were headed for prison or a life of addiction hell.

And by the way, the ones in VietNam era---MY generation--who defied the POLITICIANS who created that mess--and became pot- and heroin-addicted hippies......

The ones who got their butts punished at home by two caring parents turned out to be college educated or steady and dependable tradesmen, model citizens. But the ones whose parents did not CARE enough to get them off the streets and out of cars driven drunk....are either dead by age 50 or are dying of drugs and alcohol combined while filled cancer, emphysema, liver failure, COPD, etc.....and are collecting government (taxpayer-funded) disability and Medicare.

Their protests against the VietNam war were not all that impressive in the long run, because they destroyed their previously brilliant minds and bodies with substance abuse and addiction, and are now living off the government they hated as college students but love now because of the check and housing they get from it.

Wow, quite a bit of generalization about the anti-war movement, untrue to say the least. To characterize the peace movement as a bunch of people who became pot and heroin addicted, well what can one say.

Many in the peace movement were students, mothers, or anti-establishment hippies, but there was also involvement from many other groups, including educators, clergy, academics, journalists, lawyers, physicians (such as Benjamin Spock), military veterans, and ordinary Americans. On October 15, 1969, the Vietnam Moratorium attracted millions of Americans. To imply that all these peace loving Americans became heroin addicts mooching off the government is just laughable.

OK so what's new about the garage doors being open.