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Mookie55 09-27-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2374063)
Sounds like someone, a novice, trying to put out some interesting content, asking for suggestions and hoping to make a better product. Not be harassed. I’m sure the OP intentions weren’t meant to infringe upon another members ‘man crush’ on his/her fave TV YouTuber! Lighten up Francis!

Thank you!!

Mookie55 09-30-2024 08:50 AM

Marsh Bend Trail
 
Golf cart path from Linden to Central Park way on the day of the storm ( Helene )

https://youtu.be/1DXwFLb1IXU?si=-nDtRQQd9bpELltO

Aces4 09-30-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mookie55 (Post 2374976)
Golf cart path from Linden to Central Park way on the day of the storm ( Helene )

https://youtu.be/1DXwFLb1IXU?si=-nDtRQQd9bpELltO

I'm sure your intent was good but I wouldn't post the fact that I was trespassing on a local forum.:shocked:

Bogie Shooter 09-30-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mookie55 (Post 2374976)
Golf cart path from Linden to Central Park way on the day of the storm ( Helene )

https://youtu.be/1DXwFLb1IXU?si=-nDtRQQd9bpELltO

2 minutes and you blow past no trespassing sign. That was enough for me.
How did you get your entitlement badge to break all these rules?

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2374999)
2 minutes and you blow past no trespassing sign. That was enough for me.
How did you get your entitlement badge to break all these rules?

I have a question....when watching the other ‘Nuts videos...when the drone is lowered into entrance ways, parking lots and businesses that are yet to be occupied or opened. Is that not ‘trespassing’ as well? Or do you have to obtain prior permission to do so? It’s not a premise to a joke....just wanting some edification from someone who seems to know both ‘Nuts better than the rest of us...

Bogie Shooter 09-30-2024 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375040)
I have a question....when watching the other ‘Nuts videos...when the drone is lowered into entrance ways, parking lots and businesses that are yet to be occupied or opened. Is that not ‘trespassing’ as well? Or do you have to obtain prior permission to do so? It’s not a premise to a joke....just wanting some edification from someone who seems to know both ‘Nuts better than the rest of us...

This guy is riding a bike where he shouldn’t.

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2375050)
This guy is riding a bike where he shouldn’t.

You’re probably right....but that didn’t answer my question

Bogie Shooter 09-30-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375052)
You’re probably right....but that didn’t answer my question

A lot of your questions don’t get answered .😁

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2375074)
A lot of your questions don’t get answered .😁

OR, as a good friend used to say at the end of a speech...’Any questions?....No? Then you must have all the answers!”

ElDiabloJoe 09-30-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375052)
You’re probably right....but that didn’t answer my question

I believe the nut of whom you speak - he of the golden variety, is very careful to obey all rules. He does not fly over people or vehicles. He also parks wherever he is allowed. He does not go around barriers or into active construction zones to park or fly. Usually he flies from postal stations which are not off-limits and open in an area before almost anything else because people move in long before stores or rec centers open.

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2375077)
I believe the nut of whom you speak - he of the golden variety, is very careful to obey all rules. He does not fly over people or vehicles. He also parks wherever he is allowed. He does not go around barriers or into active construction zones to park or fly. Usually he flies from postal stations which are not off-limits and open in an area before almost anything else because people move in long before stores or rec centers open.

So in that spirit, not sure if you’re assuming or stating a fact, Eastport is under construction, the ‘Nut which shall remain nameless (to protect the innocent) hovers a drone over a retail district and storefront, zooming in to the spaces/workers within it. So my question was/still is, is that done with prior permission of the construction superintendent or not? If the latter is the case, wouldn’t that constitute trespassing as well. Again, it’s a legitimate question and one the OP on this thread, I’m sure, could learn from it’s answer

ElDiabloJoe 09-30-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375083)
So in that spirit, not sure if you’re assuming or stating a fact, Eastport is under construction, the ‘Nut which shall remain nameless (to protect the innocent) hovers a drone over a retail district and storefront, zooming in to the spaces/workers within it. So my question was/still is, is that done with prior permission of the construction superintendent or not? If the latter is the case, wouldn’t that constitute trespassing as well. Again, it’s a legitimate question and one the OP on this thread, I’m sure, could learn from it’s answer

I do not know enough about the nut in question's activities to defend him, however my understanding of trespassing is that there are two elements to that crime.

The first element that must be met is that a person must be in a place which they have no legal authority to be. The second element is that they must be asked to leave by someone with control or authority over that place and refuse to leave. Both elements must be present in order for a crime to occur.

For example (this actually happened to someone I know in California):

If someone breaks into your home, steals nothing, and leaves when confronted and demanded to get out, you have no crime. Burglary requires entering a four-sided structure with the intent to commit petty theft or any felony. Without the intent you got no crime. Same with the trespassing.

If the nut is standing somewhere he is allowed to be (or somewhere he is not but no one in authority has demanded he leave), and flying in airspace that is not restricted by the FAA, then he is not committing any crime. Unless his truck is illegally parked, but that's not in question here I believe.

Even simple things can be much more complex than the cop shows on TV depict.

Papa_lecki 09-30-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375040)
I have a question....when watching the other ‘Nuts videos...when the drone is lowered into entrance ways, parking lots and businesses that are yet to be occupied or opened. Is that not ‘trespassing’ as well? Or do you have to obtain prior permission to do so? It’s not a premise to a joke....just wanting some edification from someone who seems to know both ‘Nuts better than the rest of us...

I am not an aviation expert, but I think you can fly drones over private property. Your limit on not taking images is if a reasonable expectation of privacy exists. I.e. - you can’t take a video of you in the bathroom or probably even in your pool.
But, new commercial construction does not have reasonable expectation of privacy.
I also dont think the drone goes into buildings, the operator is using a zoom lens.

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2375089)
I do not know enough about the nut in question's activities to defend him, however my understanding of trespassing is that there are two elements to that crime.

The first element that must be met is that a person must be in a place which they have no legal authority to be. The second element is that they must be asked to leave by someone with control or authority over that place and refuse to leave. Both elements must be present in order for a crime to occur.

For example (this actually happened to someone I know in California):

If someone breaks into your home, steals nothing, and leaves when confronted and demanded to get out, you have no crime. Burglary requires entering a four-sided structure with the intent to commit petty theft or any felony. Without the intent you got no crime. Same with the trespassing.

If the nut is standing somewhere he is allowed to be (or somewhere he is not but no one in authority has demanded he leave), and flying in airspace that is not restricted by the FAA, then he is not committing any crime. Unless his truck is illegally parked, but that's not in question here I believe.

Even simple things can be much more complex than the cop shows on TV depict.

Yeah..we’re talking in our little corner of the world...ToTV-Special Victims Unit!

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-30-2024 03:12 PM

Air space has different rules than roads and construction sites. Pretty sure being over 50 feet up in the air OVER a construction site or unpaved road, is not going to be treated the same as placing yourself atop your bicycle upon that road through the construction site. Drones don't have to stop at stop signs. Bicycles do. Bicycles that roll on through stop signs, and don't slow down for "no trespassing" signs that they ride next to, are not going to be treated the same as a drone that flies 50 feet or more over the ground.


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