The listing describes the TV amenities as "shopping, dining, schools, and more". NOT the swimming pools, rec centers or golf courses. The family neighborhoods do not have access to those. Don't worry, you are not being cheated.

It is my understanding those amenities we pay for are not available to Bison Valley residents. They have golf cart accessibility and that makes open to public areas available by golf cart. (I could have stated that better but it is getting late and I am not functioning at 100%)

However, the listing includes this " If you are looking for a safe environment that is in close proximity to all (my emphasis) that The Villages has to offer". I'd call that very misleading.

The listing says ALL the amenities you need and enjoy everyday
 

Russ: You REALLY dont see any changes?
What does ALL mean?

The listing Says... In addition to being close to ALL the amenities you need and enjoy everyday – those same destinations are available by golf car!

I would interpret the use of the word 'amenity' as being in a general sense, like the dining, entertainment, shopping. I don't read this as "Amenities" in the specific TV resident sense that we pay for each month... rec centers, pools, exec golf.

However, if Bison Valley residents are direct relations to Villagers (parents, grandparents, children, or grandchildren) they are eligible to get an annual in-area family guest pass...that allows them to use pools and rec centers as long as they are accompanied by the Resident.

As others have stated, nothing has changed. Bison Valley was built by the Developer so he elects to allow his Real Estate company to list/market these properties as resales. Other local realtors/developers tout their properties as 'being close to the Villages'.

Not to be argumentative but..
 

Not to be argumentative, but as a potential buy when I read that listing ON the TV website and it say ALL amenities, I interpret that to mean ALL..
Do you mean if I buy that home, I do not get ALL amenities? How can that be when it says ALL, and it is on the TV website and that is similar language they use to advertise homes in other parts of TV where there clearly you do get amenities.
When do they tell me all does not mean all? Before or after I make my offer to buy that home?
Maybe this is just the retired lawyer in me but words matter when you read something and then take the time to act on what you read.

yup
 

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JJ ... someone seeing this listing from outside TV could well interpret it the way you described.

Being a local resident and understanding the lay of the land, as I parse the text in the listing, it makes sense to me. They are using the word 'amenity' very loosely. Nowhere in the listing does it say you can use Villages pools, rec centers, or exec golf. So, it is factually correct but misleading to the uninformed.

I think we've all read real estate listings that embellish a property's appeal, condition, and features. Such is the world of Marketing...not nearly as precise as the law.

Jim Joe.

Bison Valley has been around for awhile. If you read back on this thread which was started in 2008, these issues have been discussed. And discussed again.

Are you in TV? Go visit it. If not, ask your sales rep. It's all good. They don't get to use our pools, rec centers, etc. etc.

There are amenities and there are amenities. Almost all places advertise amenities. Reread what Village 07 said. Not to worry.

I believe that GMoney lives there. He works in the construction of homes if I remember correctly. Maybe he will come on and explain that they do not have our amenities. They have their amenities.

I am not worried.. I am ...
 

Gracie: I am not worried. I am unhappy that a listing would be worded that way. In business you do not advertise something with ALL amenities unless you mean ALL amenities.
JJ

I agree with you, JimJoe, that it should not be worded so as to mislead readers. Alas, that is the world of sales and marketing.

I absolutely agree with JimJoe. IMHO, the listing information is ambiguous and misleading. When I was a realtor, I could have been sued for placing misleading information on a listing. Bison residents don't have access to ALL amenities BUT it could be interpreted as such.

I hope it wasn't done on purpose, and I hope that in the future they are more careful to detail exactly what is included.

My husband and I had our ID checked at Paradise pool. Next time we went there was noone there but in came two guys who took off their shirts and dove into the pool with their shorts on. They were in long enough to get cooled off and as they were getting out they said, "thanks for the dip. We like being able to get cooled off and go on back to work. This is nice." It was around 96 degrees that day.
I don't know who or where they were working but they came from the direction of the golfcourse.
We don't mind showing our id whether in the pool or out but this kind of antics should not be tolerated. I don't know how they can keep people from coming in and taking advantage like this though.
Any thoughts?:shrug:

Yuk!!~
 

YUK!!
Aren't you supposed to rinse off before you get into a pool?
Working men with shorts on diving in a pool..
NOT for me.
YUK YUK YUK!

I thought all this about us Bison Valley people was settled in 2008. This is like crying over spilled Milk that has been wiped up and cleaned already...
Besides the cart path deal, we do not get anything else unless you have parents or what ever living in "TV"....

Funny I dont hear anything about the people from Lakeside Landing drving out their gate on carts down Rainey Trail 1/4 mile and having full cart access to TV.

Nothing Wrong with the way the listing reads, if you ask any of the Sales Reps you will know what they are talking about. No need for more explaining. With all going on in the world a listing is killing someone, go figure..

The purchase any home, specially a retirement home is one of the biggest investments you will make in a lifetime. It is understandable and normal to be concerned about the wording in an real estate listing. One cannot completely trust the words of an agent either. (ask me)

It was pointed out earlier in this thread that "an outsider" might not understand the wording, whereas a resident would know the lay of the land. Buyers are "outsiders". They don't know the lay of the land. An insider doesn't need to worry about the wording. The prospective buyer does.

JimJoe is absolutey right "ALL" means "ALL". My guess is that when it's time to pay for the home "ALL" of the price will be paid, not some of it.