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Peachie 08-28-2008 01:18 AM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
I haven't decided which way I would like to see this situation go but I'm not impressed with the argument:

"In exchange for these people serving your everyday needs they get to use your cart paths, pools, rec centers, etc."

Why not give Village employees the keys to your house too? IMHO, I wouldn't want the landscapers, painters, Drs., postman or whoever to come and swim in my pool at home but accordingly to that philosophy, if they work for me I must share everything I own and I must provide everything in which they would like to participate. Must we feed them too? If this is a wide open community, we need to tax everyone accordingly so that everyone can enjoy the features and not stick some of the people with the amenity fee bill.

And aren't these people being paid wages? What areas of the country advise us if we employ someone, we must turn over our property to them for use?

Skip 08-28-2008 01:52 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Developer wants to sell houses there? Let him provide their own recreation in those family villages and charge a small amenity fee (if necessary).

Skip

ladykathleen 08-28-2008 05:58 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM the Greenerside I don't think so, I pay my fees they don't. Cheers to you Peachie, you have come a full 360 degrees. We can make our voices heard. As I said previously Bison Valley is just the beginning. Lets see: Parkwood, all the condos being built on 466 and how about all the schools using facilities our amenities are paying to maintain and pay off the bonds while we have no control and no say.

graciegirl 08-28-2008 06:02 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
:barf:

redwitch 08-28-2008 06:15 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
I don't believe employees should be allowed to use the amenities. The golf cart paths? Okay, that I can see. Our paths are open to anyone who wants to use them and can find a way to get to them regardless of where they live. I don't particularly agree with this policy and would love to see mini-gates on those that access outside areas. If you don't have a gate pass, you pay an amount to enter ($1.00? or something like that). Pretty simple solution to me.

Again, I do believe that those who live nearby and have relatives in TV should be allowed access PROVIDED they are accompanied by their relatives. Yes, some families will abuse it and use the amenities on a daily basis. Personally, though I think we'd find that the majority are pretty close to the 30-day time period (grandma and grandpa are too busy to babysit every day as a norm) or they would be if the rules would be enforced.

Fourpar 08-28-2008 06:30 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
I'm with graciegirl on this one!

Cassie325 08-28-2008 07:08 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
:barf:


Gracie...are you barfing because we have beat this to death...or at someones specific comment? Just curious.....

Barefoot 08-28-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnN
barb1191 :agree:
keep it simple and enforce it, visitor passes for length of stay only

I agree with JohnN and Barb 1191. Keep it simple and improve monitoring.

Peachie 08-28-2008 09:46 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Kathleen, sometimes I don't think you read any of my posts. I have consistently stated we need to stay alert and when and if there is a specific issue, get involved. I have no time for persistant ranting and broad complaints which denounce the developer constantly and do not offer a solution, just a "the sky is falling" attitude. I think that's the tack most Villagers take. There is a difference!

ladykathleen 08-28-2008 10:11 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Okay Peachie,

You totally misread my posts. You say stay alert, okay stay alert then what. Are you willing to go to district meetings???????????

Peachie 08-28-2008 10:43 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Kathleen, you have the lucky priviledge or unlucky onus, however YOU look at at, to live in The Villages fulltime. We do not, we are still working. Finish reading my sentence, "if there is a specific issue, get involved." Can you please advise all of us how much change you have implemented by attending these district meetings and how you effected these changes? I have the distinct feeling, if someone does not have the same viewpoint as you do, you must take them to task. That's a waste of time. I do not know you personally but I think all of your concern is based on financial issues for yourself. I understand that and finances are important to most of us. But you're better off enjoying the moment and deal with a problem WHEN and if it arises. Wise ole Ben Franklin said, "Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight". Maybe then you and I could meet someday and enjoy each others company, Kathleen.

billethkid 08-28-2008 11:32 PM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
The in area annual passes are (were?) intended to accommodate TV family members that live with a 50 mile radius of TV.

Family from anywhere outside the 50 mile limit can get as many 30 day passes as they can use up. So the spirit and intention of the in area pass was for family members of TV residents. And if you have family in the area it most likely makes sense.

Some home work needs to be done to put the issue into a proper context. From what I understand (3rd hand) there were less than 500 in area passes throughout 2007. That would be about seven tenths of one percent of TV population spread across all the facilities in some distribution. Hardly an inundation of the facilities or am entities.

The bigger issue is the ongoing violation of the 30 day passes that numbers in the hundreds and thousands per month by being issued to almost any and all that know the rules and back into the answers for the passes. Add to that the number of folks who know which pools and rec centers that check ID and those that don't.

IMHO, the in area annual passes are not the problem! The lack of discipline in all the other passes and walk ins are the real problem.

BTK

BTK

thegreenerside 08-29-2008 12:09 AM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
LadyKat - I guess you just go ape **** when you pay your property taxes every year as well. Not only are you paying for .25 % of the population of TV to use a swimming pool, but you are also paying for thousands of kids to go to school. Life is horrible.

renielarson 08-29-2008 12:17 AM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
To pay for education is an investment in our country and for the future lives of not only our children but for future generations. I gladly contribute to the education of all children and believe it is my American duty to help provide for their learning experiences. Where would all of us be without the money to help pay for education?

But, then again, if we did not support education we wouldn't have all the loud mouths, know it alls, holier than thou people here because they wouldn't be able to read and write!

By the way, I'm a teacher and very passionate about this subject, can you tell?

Cassie325 08-29-2008 12:31 AM

Re: Bison Valley residents using The Villages family pools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brightspot01
To pay for education is an investment in our country and for the future lives of not only our children but for future generations. I gladly contribute to the education of all children and believe it is my American duty to help provide for their learning experiences. Where would all of us be without the money to help pay for education?

But, then again, if we did not support education we wouldn't have all the loud mouths, know it alls, holier than thou people here because they wouldn't be able to read and write!

By the way, I'm a teacher and very passionate about this subject, can you tell?

Bright my friend I do love your passion and points of view! :agree:

I also wanted to let you know where to send the check for the Burns child college fund....
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:joke:


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