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memason 11-05-2011 08:08 AM

Just a thought....

One reason to not pay off the bond is, if you decide to sell your home and move, you will likely NOT be able to recoup your bond in the sales price.

I think folks [buying a home] accept that there is a bond to pay down, but they will not pay you an extra $23K, just because you paid it off early.

But, whatever makes you comfortable . . .

BOMBERO 11-05-2011 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ladydoc (Post 414460)
Can't you call them at any time to get the bond payoff amount and pay it if full then or is it really a once a year offer?

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Originally Posted by ladydoc (Post 414511)
"The payoff figure is good only through late July" because the annual assessment roll must be certified to the Tax Collector to remove the assessment from your tax bill."

This is copied straight from the website and says the payoff figure is good THRU late July. That says to me you can pay it off ANY time prior to July....

The 1st. week in May, we were given a "Voluntary Opportunity" that came in the mail. They gave us until July 22nd. this year to do it. That's less than 3 months. That's not anytime. What do you think would have happened to the person who called them at any time (let's say July 25th.) to get the bond payoff amount. Do you think they could have paid it off the 26th.? It really is once a year and for a certain amount of time. I DO think if you call at any time, they will tell you the payoff.

BOND PAY-OFF
DIRECT LINE (352) 751-3900

Please don't be upset with me...I was just trying to answer your 1st. question.

elevatorman 11-05-2011 09:04 AM

Not a hijack of the thread. I just thought this page might be of intrest. http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...ter.aspx#dist9 Click on your unit # and get the Amortization Schedule for your bond. If you are yet to buy you may just click on one of the units or Villas in District 9 at the bottom of the page to see a typical Bond Amortization. Note the bonds around $20,000 are Designers, Unit 207 must be Premier.

ladydoc 11-05-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BOMBERO (Post 414576)
The 1st. week in May, we were given a "Voluntary Opportunity" that came in the mail. They gave us until July 22nd. this year to do it. That's less than 3 months. That's not anytime. What do you think would have happened to the person who called them at any time (let's say July 25th.) to get the bond payoff amount. Do you think they could have paid it off the 26th.? It really is once a year and for a certain amount of time. I DO think if you call at any time, they will tell you the payoff.

BOND PAY-OFF
DIRECT LINE (352) 751-3900

Please don't be upset with me...I was just trying to answer your 1st. question.

Oh gosh, I am not upset...I was trying to understand all this. No, I don't think I could pay it off on July 26th for that year, but maybe for the following year. Thank you for the bond payoff number...I will give them a call. I think we want to pay it off...I know we might not recoup it if we ever sell, but it would be one heck of a good selling point, to have it paid off. 7% in today's market is outrageously high...IMHO

bonrich 11-05-2011 09:14 AM

I would not pay off the bond because of that "you never know factor" of selling or keeping your present Villages home, while it is a secondary residence. Some have taken the bond and paid it off using HELOC from their primary home, if still owned, and if the interest rate is lower than the bond rate they are paying now. But, the down side is you probably will not recoup the bond payoff in the sell price of your home. But, it does look better on the sales ad, Bond is Paid! :confused:

Taj44 11-05-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ladydoc (Post 414584)
Oh gosh, I am not upset...I was trying to understand all this. No, I don't think I could pay it off on July 26th for that year, but maybe for the following year. Thank you for the bond payoff number...I will give them a call. I think we want to pay it off...I know we might not recoup it if we ever sell, but it would be one heck of a good selling point, to have it paid off. 7% in today's market is outrageously high...IMHO

That was our reasoning as well. And here it is 6 years later, we haven't sold the house, and we're close to recouping the money we would have spent on bond payments, yet our bond is paid off. 7% is ridiculous - the word that comes to mind is "gouging".

Bill-n-Brillo 11-05-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 414534)
.......We all have the same percentage of tax on the bond and many of us have just gotten used to it. .......

Gracie, is the 'percentage of tax' you mention referring to the 'interest rate'?

Perhaps everyone in your Unit will have the same interest rate. But the bond on our place in Duval is at 5.375% (issued in 2006). The rate at issuance has differed over time.

We're just going to keep paying the annual amount as we suspect we'll wind up with a different house in TV at some point in the not-real-distant future.

Bill :)

ladydoc 11-05-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 414628)
Gracie, is the 'percentage of tax' you mention referring to the 'interest rate'?

Perhaps everyone in your Unit will have the same interest rate. But the bond on our place in Duval is at 5.375% (issued in 2006). The rate at issuance has differed over time.

We're just going to keep paying the annual amount as we suspect we'll wind up with a different house in TV at some point in the not-real-distant future.

Bill :)

We have each threatened divorce if the other utters the word move in this lifetime. Seriously. I did look up our bond on the site someone kindly posted and handwritten on the bottom of it is 6.125%. This was online. I thought we were told 7%. In any case, it is too much. But I do see where everyone's rates will vary based on where they are and when built. I did see that when we pay the bond off, we still will need to pay a special assessment maintenance fee of almost $400.

zcaveman 11-05-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ladydoc (Post 414659)
We have each threatened divorce if the other utters the word move in this lifetime. Seriously. I did look up our bond on the site someone kindly posted and handwritten on the bottom of it is 6.125%. This was online. I thought we were told 7%. In any case, it is too much. But I do see where everyone's rates will vary based on where they are and when built. I did see that when we pay the bond off, we still will need to pay a special assessment maintenance fee of almost $400.

The special assessment fee is the annual cost for your CDD to take of the common areas in your district - mowing, flowers, maintenance, etc. That price could go up or down depending on your CDD's projected costs for the year. It is discussed and voted on annually at one of the CDD meetings in your district.

ladydoc 11-05-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 414684)
The special assessment fee is the annual cost for your CDD to take of the common areas in your district - mowing, flowers, maintenance, etc. That price could go up or down depending on your CDD's projected costs for the year. It is discussed and voted on annually at one of the CDD meetings in your district.

Did not know that...thanks for the info!

Posh 08 11-05-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 414684)
The special assessment fee is the annual cost for your CDD to take of the common areas in your district - mowing, flowers, maintenance, etc. That price could go up or down depending on your CDD's projected costs for the year. It is discussed and voted on annually at one of the CDD meetings in your district.

And it is billed annually? Years end?

zcaveman 11-05-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 414686)
And it is billed annually? Years end?

It is annual. It is in your tax bill which you should have received recently. It is a non-valorem entry. In mine (Marion county) it is called Villages Comm Development - Purpose - maintenance.

Posh 08 11-05-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 414699)
It is in your tax bill which you should have received recently. It is a non-valorem entry. In mine (Marion county) it is called Villages Comm Development - Purpose - maintenance.

Just a Maybe Villager at this point garnering important facts for decision making. Thanks.

zcaveman 11-05-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 414701)
Just a Maybe Villager at this point garnering important facts for decision making. Thanks.

Sorry. I thought about that after I posted the tax info. Let me see if there is something I can PM to you about the tax bill, etc.

Z

zcaveman 11-05-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 414709)
Sorry. I thought about that after I posted the tax info. Let me see if there is something I can PM to you about the tax bill, etc.

Z

BTW. Have you gone to the Nuts and Bolts section and looked at my three part note about Moving to the Villages?


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