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homeball 01-16-2012 11:00 PM

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Speaking of foul odors, sewer processing plants and other things, here is a picture taken on Jan 13, 2012 of what appears to be a processing plant/facility of some sort off Bonifay Path across the street from the Bonifay Country Club. As is the custom it is hidden from the road by high bushes and one has to give a good hard look to discover it. Anyone interested can take a drive down and check it out.

NJblue 01-16-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 3puttharry (Post 441241)
Hi NJ, have seen the ongoing work at Bacall area plant and think it would be great if it is the last sewerage treatment plant. I find it hard to believe that Brownwood (given the size of it) is going to pump all it's sewerage to that site. I am curious, who told you that bacall is handling the entire "final phase"?

I had a tour of the plant a couple of years ago which included a presentation by the head of The Villages sanitation department. He said that the plant there, once it was enlarged, will handle all of the building south of 466A.

NJblue 01-16-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by homeball (Post 441395)
Speaking of foul odors, sewer processing plants and other things, here is a picture taken on Jan 13, 2012 of what appears to be a processing plant/facility of some sort off Bonifay Path across the street from the Bonifay Country Club. As is the custom it is hidden from the road by high bushes and one has to give a good hard look to discover it. Anyone interested can take a drive down and check it out.

This is the water storage tank that they are using instead of the tall towers that you see around. There is one similar to that off Morse near Bonita. This will not give off any odors.

NJblue 01-16-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 441388)
We need a good steady rain for several days. To refill the ponds and dilute that sewage.

It was explained to me when the ponds are low that sewages is tansfered to water you lawns. Ehewwww!

Not true. The water used for residential irrigation (south of 466) is a combination of the ponds (which are fed by rain runoff) and the lower aquifer (not the same aquifer that we get our drinking water from). The irrigation water for the golf courses, however, does have a component from the waste water treatment plant (along with the ponds and the lower aquifer).

I have seen the water coming out of the waste water treatment plant up close (could literally reach out and touch it). It has no odor and is so clear that you would think that you could drink it - but hasn't been purified to the extent that you really could drink it.

homeball 01-16-2012 11:24 PM

Tall water towers are necessary to generate the necessary water pressure via the law of gravity. A tower 70 ft tall will generate at least 30 psi of discharge pressure. A so called water tower of no significant height off the ground would generate very little pressure and be of no practical use. That's why we have numerous tall towers around TV.

NJblue 01-16-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by homeball (Post 441402)
Tall water towers are necessary to generate the necessary water pressure via the law of gravity. A tower 70 ft tall will generate at least 30 psi of discharge pressure. A so called water tower of no significant height off the ground would generate very little pressure and be of no practical use. That's why we have numerous tall towers around TV.

Well, explain to me why the well at the intersection of Morse and Bonita as well as the well near Bonifay have no tall towers? Just a different method of storing water at a high point for distribution to lower points.

Hancle704 01-16-2012 11:43 PM

Rode through the area the other evening, glad to learn the odor had not originated from within the car.

Penguin 01-17-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hancle704 (Post 441407)
Rode through the area the other evening, glad to learn the odor had not originated from within the car.

Made me laugh. Thanks:laugh:

Bill-n-Brillo 01-17-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hancle704 (Post 441407)
Rode through the area the other evening, glad to learn the odor had not originated from within the car.

That'll usually happen after a trip to Krystal up in Ocala....... :ohdear:

Bill :)

chuckinca 01-17-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 441403)
Well, explain to me why the well at the intersection of Morse and Bonita as well as the well near Bonifay have no tall towers? Just a different method of storing water at a high point for distribution to lower points.


Don't need tall towers if the stored water is PUMPED into the system from the low storage tank. The pumps provide the line pressure to move the water.


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NJblue 01-17-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 441500)
Don't need tall towers if the stored water is PUMPED into the system from the low storage tank. The pumps provide the line pressure to move the water.


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That's what I was figuring as well. Regardless of how they move the water from the well near Bonifay into the system, the tank that is there is not any type of sewage treatment plant and should produce no odors.

keithwand 02-06-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanC (Post 437934)
Can someone tell me exactly where the foul order is in Fernandina?

We reserved a lot in Unit 207 last month and may need to make a change if this is a persistent problem.

We spent quite a bit of time walking around the vacant lots, the country club, the area by the starter shack (below the water tower construction project), as well as by the pool and mailboxes without noticing any foul orders.

We’re returning next month and would like to spend some additional time in this area of concern.

Thanks.

We just bought a lot on Braddock Ct 2 days ago and visited it the next 2 days.
Had lunch outside at Bonifay (great burger) and
DID NOT SMELL ANYTHING!!
Believe me if we had we would not have bought there and I had read this before coming back.
Its an all Premier neighbor hood and no way would they have put it there if it stunk.

shcisamax 02-17-2012 07:09 AM

This thread has me extremely concerned. I just came back from TV having put my deposit down on a very nice golf view site right near the Club. I do NOT want to build a house on a site beginning of April if it is impacted by a bad smell or sitting on a toxic landfill. I can live with temporary but if this is a permanent issue.....Does anyone have any further information on this. Who do you call at TV besides your salesperson to find out the truth? Yikes!

shcisamax 02-17-2012 07:11 AM

Is the smell resolved? Does anyone know really what it is?
 
This thread has me extremely concerned. I just came back from TV having put my deposit down on a very nice golf view site right near the Club. I do NOT want to build a house on a site beginning of April if is impacted by a bad smell or sitting on a toxic landfill. Does anyone have any further information on this. Who do you call at TV besides your salesperson to find out the truth? Yikes!

angiefox10 02-17-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 454536)
This thread has me extremely concerned. I just came back from TV having put my deposit down on a very nice golf view site right near the Club. I do NOT want to build a house on a site beginning of April if is impacted by a bad smell or sitting on a toxic landfill. Does anyone have any further information on this. Who do you call at TV besides your salesperson to find out the truth? Yikes!

It seems that none of the people who bought lots and built homes smell anything. I haven't and you didn't.

Barefoot 02-17-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by homeball (Post 441395)
Speaking of foul odors, sewer processing plants and other things, here is a picture taken on Jan 13, 2012 of what appears to be a processing plant/facility of some sort off Bonifay Path across the street from the Bonifay Country Club. As is the custom it is hidden from the road by high bushes and one has to give a good hard look to discover it. Anyone interested can take a drive down and check it out.

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 454535)
This thread has me extremely concerned. I just came back from TV having put my deposit down on a very nice golf view site right near the Club. I do NOT want to build a house on a site beginning of April if it is impacted by a bad smell or sitting on a toxic landfill. I can live with temporary but if this is a permanent issue.....Does anyone have any further information on this. Who do you call at TV besides your salesperson to find out the truth? Yikes!

Did you check out the area mentioned by Homeball? Are you near a retention pond? The only bad smells I've experienced have come from ponds near Maintenance Buildings, not sure if they are sewer related.

NJblue 02-18-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 454638)
Did you check out the area mentioned by Homeball? Are you near a retention pond? The only bad smells I've experienced have come from ponds near Maintenance Buildings, not sure if they are sewer related.

This is NOT a processing plant. There is an identical tank near the intersection of Bonita and Morse and no one complains of odors from it. The fact that there is a well at both places as well is not just a coincidence. If you visit the processing plant on BV near Bonifay (by Bacall golf course) you will see that a real processing plant looks nothing like what is at Bonifay and at Bonita/Morse.

Jim 9922 02-18-2012 10:49 AM

The smell was very strong in September and October but not so strong in late December. We noticed no smell during a recent visit to the area. Maybe it was a combination of hot days, heavy doses of of organic based fertlizer and heavy watering drawn from stagnant ponds. At that time they were "grassing in" the golf courses and common areas so everything was going full blast.

Many golf courses use organic fertlizer as part of their maintenance programs. In fact, Milorganite produced by the Milwaukee sewage plant is the most widely used, including in TV. It has its own unique smell for a few days after application (so good that the locals use it as a deer repellent). But the September-October smell was not Milorganite.

keithwand 02-18-2012 03:59 PM

We will be building on Braddock CT in Fernandina. We had lunch at Bonifay and visited our site by car and golf cart.

The only smell we got was the gas golf cart provided by TV.

Every once in a while FL gets an early morning smell that I have noticed in Orlando, Tampa and when I visited my parents in Sun City. I chalk it up to it smells like FL!

Ever smell a paper/ pulp mill? Now thats bad.

We are very happy with our decision. If you are not try and get refund and look for another lot.

rubicon 02-18-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 441281)
I just noticed the Pimlico smell today as I was driving on Belvedere, quite pungent. In four winters, I've only noticed the smell once near Pimlico. But I have noticed it often in a few other pond areas.

I was told it is because the store fertilizer there?????????

Lynnelf 02-19-2012 05:18 PM

I smelled the mysterious odor when we were showing off our new neighborhood to some relatives who came to visit. We were standing by the Fernandina pool and we all got a whiff of a sulfur smell. One whiff and then it was gone. It was quite noticeable as we all made a comment about it when it occured. But it was gone as quickly as it came. It did not smell like fertilizer (we have been walking at the Polo club while they were fertilizing. Now that was an awful stink!) This smelled more like sulfur. Considering that most of the folks in the neighborhood have not smelled it at all, and I only smelled it for an instant, I'm not too worried about it.

keithwand 02-25-2012 02:43 PM

We got in the car and drove over to TV (1 hour away) and walked our dogs at the Fernandina Pool.
We stopped in at the Bonifay Pro Shop then checked on our lot and saw all of the new housing starts just in the last few weeks.
You know what? NO smells and I have a real sensitive smeller.

Mikeod 02-25-2012 10:20 PM

We played Truman today starting at 10:40. When we got to the third green, we both noticed a sulfur odor. With the wind blowing from the north, it couldn't be originating in the Bonifay/Fernandina area. I wonder if they are doing something in that new facility on 466a between Buena Vista and Canal St. that is producing that odor. By the time we got to the 4th tee, we didn't smell it anymore.

pooh 02-25-2012 10:30 PM

It was definitely a sulfur smell that Mike and I noticed. After watching the movie Volcano many times and visiting the La Brea tar pits a few times... I was waiting for a volcanic vent to open up... ;) Didn't last long.

keithwand 02-26-2012 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 458945)
We played Truman today starting at 10:40. When we got to the third green, we both noticed a sulfur odor. With the wind blowing from the north, it couldn't be originating in the Bonifay/Fernandina area. I wonder if they are doing something in that new facility on 466a between Buena Vista and Canal St. that is producing that odor. By the time we got to the 4th tee, we didn't smell it anymore.

What are they doing there on the South side of 466A?
We saw the mound and all of the trucks moving dirt around.
What was there before they started building Bonifay CC and the houses there?

CraigAC 03-06-2012 05:47 PM

No Smell
 
My wife and I just got home to S. CA after spending 3 great days at TV. We spent a lot of time in the Fernandina/Bonifay area looking at our empty lot as well as the progress being made on the other new homes.

I’m pleased to report that I didn’t pick up any foul orders in any of the areas we visited. We walked around the empty lots as well as the pool and Starter Shacks around Bonifay.

We visited there all three days at different times of the day. We also had a leisurely lunch on the Bonifay patio yesterday afternoon, and still no orders. I’m feeling much better about this issue.

CraigAC 03-06-2012 05:54 PM

sorry -- should have typed "odors" not "orders". Must be the jet-lag...

keithwand 03-07-2012 11:41 AM

Which model did you guys pick out?
We are excited to be going back for 6 days next week to pick out our stuff and hopefully staying within budget.
Glad you had a great time.

Golfer in Sanibel 03-07-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 458949)
It was definitely a sulfur smell that Mike and I noticed. After watching the movie Volcano many times and visiting the La Brea tar pits a few times... I was waiting for a volcanic vent to open up... ;) Didn't last long.

Did you ask Mike what he'd been eating?:D

coffeebean 03-08-2012 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 437694)
Seems like nothing much has been done to fix the stink problen. I started a thread 10/5/11 on this topic. We were told at that time by the sales person that the smell is "just the price you pay to own on a golf course".
:0000000000luvmyhors

I'm not a golfer so I didn't know there was an odor associated with golf courses. What creates the odor?

Posh 08 03-08-2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 464112)
I'm not a golfer so I didn't know there was an odor associated with golf courses. What creates the odor?

Fertilizers. The farmer next door to my place just spread his fields with chicken manure. It's zesty for a few days. Lucky the wind in the right direction.

looneycat 03-08-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NANCY58 (Post 438722)
Take a look at the landfill across from colony plaza. Could that be the smell?

nope, its construction debris, not organic waste.

coffeebean 03-08-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 464147)
Fertilizers. The farmer next door to my place just spread his fields with chicken manure. It's zesty for a few days. Lucky the wind in the right direction.

Do golf courses require a different type of fertilizer than the grasses that are all over The Villages such as lawn for homes and all the common grounds?

Posh 08 03-08-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 464288)
Do golf courses require a different type of fertilizer than the grasses that are all over The Villages such as lawn for homes and all the common grounds?

I believe the shear volumes of turf require fertilizers that cost less than one uses on homes so maybe it has more of the "barnyard" in it. Just guessing. Higher nitrogen is desired on pastures, that I can bet the ranch on.

coffeebean 03-08-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 464291)
I believe the shear volumes of turf require fertilizers that cost less than one uses on homes so maybe it has more of the "barnyard" in it. Just guessing. Higher nitrogen is desired on pastures, that I can bet the ranch on.

Now I get the picture. Thanks.


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