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JC and John 11-05-2012 06:49 PM

What Traffic Jams?
 
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 577070)
It's a lot easier and faster "zooming" around in a golf cart at 19mph than sitting in a car stuck in traffic. Plus you're not polluting the air, unless you have a gas cart.

I agree with Mack. Air conditioned SUV is the way to go for me. I have yet to be stuck in any traffic jam. If you call the traffic during the winter season with the snowbirds traffic, then I have to laugh. Rush hour in Washington DC is a "traffic jam". Please! Yes we have a cart but I like getting from point A to B in less time it takes to go by cart. We didn't buy here to run around in a cart. If I golfed yes it would be good. Good for those who do love their carts. Not my bag. I do hope something can be done for those missing out on getting to Walmart on 441by cart.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 577111)
Why is it scary?

Number one , if they're closing this path, they could conceivably close the path from the medical complex and Lowes which would mean she'd have to take the car to work.
Secondly, if Aldi ends up losing business from this, they could start laying off some of the their people or cutting hours. My wife has not been there very long.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 577116)
So, if I understand this correctly, we'll be able to get to Aldi's via golf cart but no further, which means either taking our car or taking our cart to the Wal-Mart on 466. Not as convenient but doable. Personally, as long as I can get to Aldi's, the world is good.

I'm still trying to understand how Stonecrest is going to be able to bypass that little stretch between Aldi's and Wal-Mart and, if they do install a gate somewhere, how hard would it be for TVers to find a way through it.

SE 115 Ave which is in Stonecrest runs behind and very close to Lowes. There are several options for them to put in a path and a gate. The problem for us Villages is that we would have to be given permission to use that gate and drive our golf carts on Stonecrest property.

raynitsche 11-05-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.



You'll have one within the year!

Mack184 11-05-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 577117)
You may want to look into Florida's open container law. One of our members posted here a while ago saying he got a ticket for having an open container in his golf cart.

I do not know about how Florida applies their DWI laws, but in many states operating ANYTHING with ANY kind of motor requires you to be in compliance with the state's DWI laws. So whether you're operating a Cadillac, motor boat, milk truck, golf cart or a John Deere lawn tractor in a public place, you need to be driving below the legal limit.

One poster mentions that the cops haven't hassled him while sitting in his golf cart drinking a beer while listening to music. That's not really unbelieveable. If the cop's talking to you he's doing his own informal interview with you. You're not slurring, you don't act drunk, and it's not illegal to drink a beer and drive. If he can see you're behaving normally and not likely to cause trouble, why would he give you grief in the first place?

But..if as he's chatting with you you're acting a little "off", or being loud and/or rowdy, don't be quite so sure that you won't get asked to blow up the little balloon. Even if your only mode of transport is an E-Z Go. :o

Mack184 11-05-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by raynitsche (Post 577146)
You'll have one within the year!

You only quoted part of my post. I said I could see only one reason why I might use a golf cart outside of being on a golf course. (I don't play golf) That reason was to drive to the pool (something I'll be doing daily) so I don't have to wrap towels around my truck seats to keep them from getting wet. Yes, I expect to probably purchase a used cart for that purpose only. I can out right guarantee that will be the ONLY time it will get used. I will never drive it to town, to the doctor's, to the store, to the square and so on. It will not happen. Should it ever happen, I will post it here and admit my sins. :pray:

paulandjean 11-05-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577148)
I do not know about how Florida applies their DWI laws, but in many states operating ANYTHING with ANY kind of motor requires you to be in compliance with the state's DWI laws. So whether you're operating a Cadillac, motor boat, milk truck, golf cart or a John Deere lawn tractor in a public place, you need to be driving below the legal limit.

One poster mentions that the cops haven't hassled him while sitting in his golf cart drinking a beer while listening to music. That's not really unbelieveable. If the cop's talking to you he's doing his own informal interview with you. You're not slurring, you don't act drunk, and it's not illegal to drink a beer and drive. If he can see you're behaving normally and not likely to cause trouble, why would he give you grief in the first place?

But..if as he's chatting with you you're acting a little "off", or being loud and/or rowdy, don't be quite so sure that you won't get asked to blow up the little balloon. Even if your only mode of transport is an E-Z Go. :o

Thank You,Very Much........

eweissenbach 11-05-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577148)
I do not know about how Florida applies their DWI laws, but in many states operating ANYTHING with ANY kind of motor requires you to be in compliance with the state's DWI laws. So whether you're operating a Cadillac, motor boat, milk truck, golf cart or a John Deere lawn tractor in a public place, you need to be driving below the legal limit.

One poster mentions that the cops haven't hassled him while sitting in his golf cart drinking a beer while listening to music. That's not really unbelieveable. If the cop's talking to you he's doing his own informal interview with you. You're not slurring, you don't act drunk, and it's not illegal to drink a beer and drive. If he can see you're behaving normally and not likely to cause trouble, why would he give you grief in the first place?

But..if as he's chatting with you you're acting a little "off", or being loud and/or rowdy, don't be quite so sure that you won't get asked to blow up the little balloon. Even if your only mode of transport is an E-Z Go. :o

Possession of open containers of alcoholic beverages in vehicles is prohibited under Florida Statutes 316.1936 and anyone found with an “open container” in their vehicle will have to face penalties, including possible jail time, fines and a criminal conviction on their record.
Under Florida law, you can be ticketed or arrested for possessing an open container, either in a vehicle or in public. This means that both driver and passenger must abide by open container laws, or else they risk being ticketed or arrested for violation. To receive a ticket, you do not necessarily have to be intoxicated or under the influence. If a passenger is in physical possession of an open container, the passenger will be charged and the driver may also receive a ticket for the passenger who is in violation.

chuckinca 11-05-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 577145)
SE 115 Ave which is in Stonecrest runs behind and very close to Lowes. There are several options for them to put in a path and a gate. The problem for us Villages is that we would have to be given permission to use that gate and drive our golf carts on Stonecrest property.


Stonecrest is a strictly enforced gated community and has private roads. I doubt the POA/residents would approve allowing non-residents unrestricted access.


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renrod 11-05-2012 08:16 PM

xoxo
 
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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577151)
You only quoted part of my post. I said I could see only one reason why I might use a golf cart outside of being on a golf course. (I don't play golf) That reason was to drive to the pool (something I'll be doing daily) so I don't have to wrap towels around my truck seats to keep them from getting wet. Yes, I expect to probably purchase a used cart for that purpose only. I can out right guarantee that will be the ONLY time it will get used. I will never drive it to town, to the doctor's, to the store, to the square and so on. It will not happen. Should it ever happen, I will post it here and admit my sins. :pray:

Hey Let me know when you want to sell that cart. You'll find it taking up too much space, if it is electric the batteries will go bad from lack of use, and when you find out how much insurance costs to drive to the pool (most are within walking distance) you'll be selling. I'm one that likes to find good gently used items.

renrod 11-05-2012 08:16 PM

xoxo
 
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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577151)
You only quoted part of my post. I said I could see only one reason why I might use a golf cart outside of being on a golf course. (I don't play golf) That reason was to drive to the pool (something I'll be doing daily) so I don't have to wrap towels around my truck seats to keep them from getting wet. Yes, I expect to probably purchase a used cart for that purpose only. I can out right guarantee that will be the ONLY time it will get used. I will never drive it to town, to the doctor's, to the store, to the square and so on. It will not happen. Should it ever happen, I will post it here and admit my sins. :pray:

Hey Let me know when you want to sell that cart. You'll find it taking up too much space, if it is electric the batteries will go bad from lack of use, and when you find out how much insurance costs to drive to the pool (most are within walking distance) you'll be selling. I'm one that likes to find good gently used items. :gc:

EdV 11-05-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 577120)
I was just thru there at 5:20 PM and the fence blocking access to Walmart etc from the south for TV residents and Aldi's etc from the north for Stonecrest residents has been removed.

The Ho Chi Mihn Trail is open again!

Chuck, just checked it a little while ago and you're correct. But I think that's about to change.

Stay tuned.

eweissenbach 11-05-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by renrod (Post 577183)
Hey Let me know when you want to sell that cart. You'll find it taking up too much space, if it is electric the batteries will go bad from lack of use, and when you find out how much insurance costs to drive to the pool (most are within walking distance) you'll be selling. I'm one that likes to find good gently used items. :gc:

It bears repeating! :girlneener:

renrod 11-05-2012 08:21 PM

relax
 
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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 576951)
While returning from a doctor’s appointment on the short dirt path that runs between Aldi’s and Wal-Mart (on 441) I encountered workmen from Progress Energy putting up a barrior fence to block golf carts. The path is on Progress property and they said the directive came from higher ups.

This affects Stonecrest residents too, but we can add an automatic gate elsewhere that gets us into the parking lots on the other side of Aldi’s if we get permission like we did from Wal-Mart.

Do you think that Wal-Mart store manager will let the amount of business "cart drivers" bring to him go elsewhere? A call to headquarters and something will get done, even if they have to spend money.

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 577120)
I was just thru there at 5:20 PM and the fence blocking access to Walmart etc from the south for TV residents and Aldi's etc from the north for Stonecrest residents has been removed.

The Ho Chi Mihn Trail is open again!

.

Woo Hoo!!

Down Sized 11-05-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

Well, one less golf cart might help a little on the heavy traffic this winter.:gc:

downeaster 11-05-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 577164)
Possession of open containers of alcoholic beverages in vehicles is prohibited under Florida Statutes 316.1936 and anyone found with an “open container” in their vehicle will have to face penalties, including possible jail time, fines and a criminal conviction on their record.
Under Florida law, you can be ticketed or arrested for possessing an open container, either in a vehicle or in public. This means that both driver and passenger must abide by open container laws, or else they risk being ticketed or arrested for violation. To receive a ticket, you do not necessarily have to be intoxicated or under the influence. If a passenger is in physical possession of an open container, the passenger will be charged and the driver may also receive a ticket for the passenger who is in violation.


And if you don't believe Oldcoach ED, read the complete statute here: Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

Mack184 11-05-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by renrod (Post 577183)
Hey Let me know when you want to sell that cart. You'll find it taking up too much space, if it is electric the batteries will go bad from lack of use, and when you find out how much insurance costs to drive to the pool (most are within walking distance) you'll be selling. I'm one that likes to find good gently used items. :gc:

Sell it? I haven't even bought it yet! More likely than not I'll try riding my lawn tractor to the pool instead!

wendyquat 11-05-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 577133)
I do not believe that. Everyone has talked about that poster,but no one knows who he or she is.I know from personal evperience that I have sat in my cart with my wife on many occasions drinking a beer while talking to the police and never never had a problem.Think that rumor was started by a non-drinking poster.

I hate to burst your bubble but we saw a Lady Lake policeman writing a ticket for a couple sitting in their golf cart drinking beer at Spanish Springs just a couple of months ago. They did not appear to be intoxicated so don't know if the ticket was for open container or not. It could have been a warning for all I know but I know the couple acted very surprised!

paulandjean 11-06-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wendyquat (Post 577219)
I hate to burst your bubble but we saw a Lady Lake policeman writing a ticket for a couple sitting in their golf cart drinking beer at Spanish Springs just a couple of months ago. They did not appear to be intoxicated so don't know if the ticket was for open container or not. It could have been a warning for all I know but I know the couple acted very surprised!

No you did not burst my bubble,Tell me then why did the police not issue me tickets while talking to them or waving to them on many occasions.As you stated "You do not know if the ticket was for an open containor not. It could have been a warning as you stated. So actually you really do not have solid facts.

BobnBev 11-06-2012 08:33 AM

Ticket or no ticket, it's up to the individual officer. It's called "Officers discretion". And believe me, attitude has a LOT to do with it. Whether you agree with that, or not, makes no difference to me, that's just the way it is. :duck:

janmcn 11-06-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577217)
Sell it? I haven't even bought it yet! More likely than not I'll try riding my lawn tractor to the pool instead!

Why don't you just buy a bike or walk, much better for exercise and the environment.

Posh 08 11-06-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 577068)
Almost 100,000 people who dreamed of a battery operated miniature car when they were pre teens, but whose parents wouldn't buy them one. :gc:

or a BB gun. :icon_wink:

EdV 11-06-2012 09:32 AM

This topic thread is about the sudden attempt by Progress Energy to block golf cart access to Wal-Mart. If you are bored by this and want to talk about other issues, start your own topic thread, but don’t hijack mine.

TIA

Ooper 11-06-2012 10:23 AM

:agree:

Let's get back on topic.

gwscott 11-06-2012 11:23 AM

Blocked trail
 
I just drove by golf cart thru the trail and there is no block drove right thru?

paulandjean 11-06-2012 11:32 AM

Sounds like this post is done,trail is open,he drove right thru.

Bogie Shooter 11-06-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 577360)
Sounds like this post is done,trail is open,he drove right thru.

What about the drinking and driving? And using a truck or a golf cart?
Oh, my mistake thats not the thread topic.:confused:

graciegirl 11-06-2012 11:47 AM

Sometimes the enjoyment is not in the destination but the journey.:icon_wink:

BarryRX 11-06-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

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skyguy79 11-06-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 577304)
Why don't you just buy a bike or walk, much better for exercise and the environment.

Your statement may be generally accurate, but it's not for those of us who cannot ride a bike or do that much walking!

EdV 11-06-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 577360)
Sounds like this post is done,trail is open,he drove right thru.

Yes indeed they removed part of the fence that they had installed yesterday. Not sure why the sudden change. I do know I made phone calls yesterday alerting various entities and even spoke with the assistant manager of Wal-Mart about it around noon time yesterday.

So unless there’s a change in status, we can move on to other discussions and leave this be.

Villages PL 11-06-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 576953)
Help us here Ed. Is Progress Energy owned by the Morses? What residents in what areas does this affect. Effect? Afflict? Bother? Inhibit?

Affect is correct. But, if I tell you this, what effect will it have?

:duck:

graciegirl 11-06-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 577408)
Affect is correct. But, if I tell you this, what effect will it have?

:duck:

It was a joke son. Or to be precise, me playing with words.

I knew the meaning Mrs. Belcher. I was paying attention in your class.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-06-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

Well you are in the minority. Acording to a CBS report back in May of 2011 there were over 50,000 golf carts in the Villages and only 16,000 regular golfers. I'm sure that the number is much more than that now.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why someone would buy a retirement home in a community that is advertised as a "golf cart community", has over 90 miles of cart paths and think that it is strange that so many people prefer golf carts.

The golf cart accessibility is one of the main reasons that I live here. I really try to avoid taking my car unless absolutely necessary. I much prefer the open air and the fun of riding in my cart.Sometimes I just take the cart for a ride because I enjoy it.

chuckinca 11-06-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 577409)
It was a joke son. Or to be precise, me playing with words.

I knew the meaning Mrs. Belcher. I was paying attention in your class.


I didn't know the correct usage, probably because I didn't pay attention to Mrs. Traphagen in 10th grade English.

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Villages PL 11-06-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 577409)
It was a joke son.

Okay, mom. :)

Villages PL 11-06-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 577480)
I didn't know the correct usage, probably because I didn't pay attention to Mrs. Traphagen in 10th grade English.

.

At one time, maybe about a year ago, I was getting mixed up and couldn't decide which word to use. So I went to the dictionary and made some notes. I can't explain why I suddenly had that problem, maybe I'll blame it on old age. :)

paulandjean 11-07-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 577363)
What about the drinking and driving? And using a truck or a golf cart?
Oh, my mistake thats not the thread topic.:confused:

Maybe I should have put one of those funny stickers on the bottow. Have a great day, Sit back ,relax, and chill. To much stress.

graciegirl 11-07-2012 07:36 AM

Especially ME.
 
Don't we all act like a bunch of old people with too much time on our hands sometimes?

The world will continue. And so will we. Sometimes there is a cloud or two in the sky. But we will do what we have always done; the best we can each day.


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