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JMintzer 04-03-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2203974)
"Me first"??? More like, "me 23rd". Screw that. After I walked out, several others followed.

There were two "managers" folding sweaters. They should have enough flexibility to open two more registers for this unexpected rush, which, considering it was between Thanksgiving and Christmas shouldn't have been unexpected at all.
Instead, they were content to fold sweaters instead of helping with the rush.
And the problem wasn't that I didn't have a cart. The problem was being expected to stand in a long line to pay for my goods, when the line could have been 1/3 the length had the two sweater folders been willing or able to run a register.
First World Problem? Maybe, but that's the world I live in.

Business 101: NEVER make a customer wait to give you their money...

JMintzer 04-03-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2204016)
They already told you they were not permitted to do that until 5pm. Even store managers have bosses, if they work for a chain. The digital cash registers log every transaction including when a manager opens the register to put the till in. They get in trouble if they do it too early. You don't have to like it, but that's just how it is.

Work retail in a modern store long enough to be promoted to manager and you'll realize - it IS a "me first" attitude you have.

In the meantime, everyone who walked out after you? Meant the person behind THEM was next. So thank you for freeing up the line for those who just wanted to wait their turn, get their stuff, and leave with product in hand. And for those who didn't want to have to go home, order it online, wait a day or more to get what they asked for, and hope it was the right one/fit/not damaged.

Your loss was their gain.

You also gave the managers more things to do other than folding sweaters, so that's a bonus. I'm sure they would've preferred to be running the register to get entitled twerps out of their store faster, so putting all that stuff away will hopefully be a welcome distraction.

"Entitled Twerps"...

Didn't you say something about "name calling"?

That said, "Entitled Twerps" would make an awesome name for a band...

Laker14 04-03-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2204046)
Business 101: NEVER make a customer wait to give you their money...

Ain't that the truth!

Laker14 04-03-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2204016)
They already told you they were not permitted to do that until 5pm. Even store managers have bosses, if they work for a chain. The digital cash registers log every transaction including when a manager opens the register to put the till in. They get in trouble if they do it too early. You don't have to like it, but that's just how it is.

Work retail in a modern store long enough to be promoted to manager and you'll realize - it IS a "me first" attitude you have.

In the meantime, everyone who walked out after you? Meant the person behind THEM was next. So thank you for freeing up the line for those who just wanted to wait their turn, get their stuff, and leave with product in hand. And for those who didn't want to have to go home, order it online, wait a day or more to get what they asked for, and hope it was the right one/fit/not damaged.

Your loss was their gain.

You also gave the managers more things to do other than folding sweaters, so that's a bonus. I'm sure they would've preferred to be running the register to get entitled twerps out of their store faster, so putting all that stuff away will hopefully be a welcome distraction.

Well, as I said in my first post, I told them to tell their bosses that people can buy this stuff on the internet. My point being that someone at Dicks was using an outdated concept. That model might have made sense if my choices were between standing in a long line and not having the goods I wanted. But those days are gone.
Instead my choice was between standing in a long line or buying these goods from the comfort of my recliner, and not standing in a line, and not paying for gasoline, and not spending 40 minutes round trip to buy my stuff in their brick and mortar location.

I believed the sweater folders when they said they couldn't open a register. Hopefully Dicks is smart enough to get feedback from the employees on the floor when they find their sales dwindling. Maybe not. Maybe they'd just rather cry about how internet sales are ruining their business.

Ntomk 04-03-2023 09:26 PM

Market Basket!!!
 
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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2203051)
My northern home is rural, Amazon has become a necessity. When I am in TV I shop locally for convenience and to see what I am buying.

I do not buy fresh produce from Amazon and probably will never do so. Once I am back north I have farm stands and Market Basket, and when I am in TV I like the tropical fruit available.

Market Basket is the best. One of the few things I miss about Taxachusetts. Finally found a reason to contribute to these threads.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-03-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2204053)
Well, as I said in my first post, I told them to tell their bosses that people can buy this stuff on the internet. My point being that someone at Dicks was using an outdated concept. That model might have made sense if my choices were between standing in a long line and not having the goods I wanted. But those days are gone.
Instead my choice was between standing in a long line or buying these goods from the comfort of my recliner, and not standing in a line, and not paying for gasoline, and not spending 40 minutes round trip to buy my stuff in their brick and mortar location.

I believed the sweater folders when they said they couldn't open a register. Hopefully Dicks is smart enough to get feedback from the employees on the floor when they find their sales dwindling. Maybe not. Maybe they'd just rather cry about how internet sales are ruining their business.

You forgot the other choice, the one you actually chose:

Spending 40 minutes round trip to buy your stuff in their brick and mortar location, spending however long to do the actual shopping, then more time standing in line, then changing your mind and walking out without the product you came for.

Sounds like you wasted a lot of time, effort, gasoline, and peace of mind while they got paid whether you bought stuff or not.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-03-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2204045)
Do you know of any employee who got in trouble for opening another cash register lane when there were long lines of people waiting?

There are security measures in some chains, to ensure that only specific authorized people working on those specific shifts are handling the tills. Yes - people have gotten in trouble for it. Usually the write-up occurs after a few repeat offenses at the same till.

Laker14 04-04-2023 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2204167)
You forgot the other choice, the one you actually chose:

Spending 40 minutes round trip to buy your stuff in their brick and mortar location, spending however long to do the actual shopping, then more time standing in line, then changing your mind and walking out without the product you came for.

Sounds like you wasted a lot of time, effort, gasoline, and peace of mind while they got paid whether you bought stuff or not.

We live and we learn.
This particular event was maybe 10 years ago. I hadn't really embraced the idea that I could more easily buy all this stuff online. I was still a "brick and mortar" guy, and frankly, probably unaware of just how far along the rest of the world was on this road between internet shopping and brick and mortar (probably hadn't even heard the term "brick and mortar") shopping.
In 1977 I moved to a small Upstate NY town that had a mercantile district in the town center. I could buy just about anything within walking distance of my residence. One by one, these stores closed down as they couldn't compete with the big chains that were opening up in malls and shopping centers slightly out of town "on the 4-lane".
40 years later these malls and shopping centers were losing the big chains, one-by-one as they lost their market to the internet.

In all likelihood the die was cast for this store, as the changing dynamic would have its effect regardless of policy, but that event made it very easy for me to never go back in that store. I'm sure the decision makers had their reasons for their policies. Their thinking was flawed. They took away the one advantage they might have held against internet shopping; a positive personal interaction.
Stupid for them, but a learning experience for me.

ThirdOfFive 04-04-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2203693)
I have not had to return anything yet and I have been shopping with them for years.

I had to return a burial urn a few months ago. Not the one I ordered.

Guy at The UPS Store raised his eyebrows when I brought it in. “An urn?” He commented.

“Yeah”, I replied. “I got better”.

Got a chuckle out of the woman behind me in line.

LuvNH 04-04-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ntomk (Post 2204165)
Market Basket is the best. One of the few things I miss about Taxachusetts. Finally found a reason to contribute to these threads.

......... and they are getting better. We really like Panera soups and right now you can buy any of the Panera soups in Market Basket, win win for both parties.

I shop in NH. Market Basket and Amazon are everywhere up here. Great for the consumer.

LuvNH 04-04-2023 09:14 AM

I think there is a solution to the brick and mortar stores that Amazon is killing. We are desperately short of middle income and low income housing. What about taking the box stores in the Malls and turning them into affordable housing, expensive proposition, but it would give a return on investment if done right.

Laker14 04-04-2023 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2204322)
I think there is a solution to the brick and mortar stores that Amazon is killing. We are desperately short of middle income and low income housing. What about taking the box stores in the Malls and turning them into affordable housing, expensive proposition, but it would give a return on investment if done right.

Some of them are being turned into pickleball clubs.

Aces4 04-05-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2204167)
You forgot the other choice, the one you actually chose:

Spending 40 minutes round trip to buy your stuff in their brick and mortar location, spending however long to do the actual shopping, then more time standing in line, then changing your mind and walking out without the product you came for.

Sounds like you wasted a lot of time, effort, gasoline, and peace of mind while they got paid whether you bought stuff or not.

Exactly! It appears that the related shopping experience wasn’t too effective since Dicks doors are still open.

The online business with old people will become even more interesting when AI takes over.

coffeebean 04-07-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2203517)
I try to avoid Amazon as much as possible. If I am ordering online I always try Walmart and Target etc first. Unfortunately Amazon is the only place to find some items.

I wanted a specific item that I had no idea what B&M store would carry it. I plugged it into Amazon and wha la. There it was. I ordered it from Amazon and still do not know where in the world I would have found that item in a B&M store.

Full disclosure.......I much prefer to shop at B&M stores.


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