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graciegirl 08-29-2016 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1280088)
if you have big margins or overcharge for your products/services.


If you have a 5,000 sq ft store that's about $15,000 a moth rent.

or $500 a day, do the math.

there are plenty of other choices for half that money

What it's worth is what it goes for. If you have a niche business with not a fast turnover, then the rent is too high. The developers obviously spent a great deal of money on all three squares. Does anyone remember them moving giant live oak trees to the area? The Villages are not alone in charging percentage rent. It is a common business practice. I will post this again.


How Percentage Rent Works in a Commercial Real Estate Lease

And as many savvy people who understand retail have already explained, there are a lot of successful businesses in the three squares able to meet the rent.

I don't know the Morses, but I do know a little bit about business. I watched underfunded niche businesses with big ideas fail a lot.

jimbo2012 08-29-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1280441)
What it's worth is what it goes for.

But when it doesn't "go for" it's not worth the money hense dark space after 3 years.

It's only because they don't need the money they can sit on the property.

the new space on rt 44 east of Sparrs is like 12-15 a foot 6 free months, almost all rented I think.


Percentage Rent is not done on most retail space it is done mostly in malls etc.

these squares don't have year round foot traffic.


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graciegirl 08-29-2016 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1280446)
But when it doesn't "go for" it's not worth the money hense dark space after 3 years.

It's only because they don't need the money they can sit on the property.

the new space on rt 44 east of Sparrs is like 12-15 a foot 6 free months, almost all rented I think.


Percentage Rent is not done on most retail space it is done mostly in malls etc.

these squares don't have year round foot traffic.


??????



.

You must know more than they do. Most businesses have high seasons. Clothing is cyclical. If you have what everybody wants, or what everybody is willing to pay a lot for...well there you are. I am frugal, in fact many call me tight. I don't often shop at the squares. I have always been aware of the high rent at vacation destinations. If you have to pay high overhead, or high wages, the consumer foots the bill.

Bogie Shooter 08-30-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by THUNDERCHIEF (Post 1280399)
Each business has to pay a portion of their profit to the villages, kinda like al capone's time in chicago--- the business must be very profitable to support this payment arrangment. Hence you have many business owners that will not come in to the villages.

Do you think that concept is unique to TV.....it's not.

Fredman 08-30-2016 06:40 PM

Just remember, he who has the gold makes the rules

dbussone 08-30-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1280866)
Just remember, he who has the gold makes the rules



So let's not kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.


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asianthree 08-31-2016 05:10 AM

We go to the squares on occasion, I browse. It reminds me when we were kids on vacation. You went into town walked thru the shops and got to spend your few dollars. If I am shopping it's mostly on line. I do miss the banner stores. I did buy from them often. Just not the same when they moved to the sales office.

ithos 09-02-2016 06:47 AM

I bought a house in Brownwood and love it. Less congestion, quick access to Turnpike/I75 and plenty of facilities to choose from. Once the Turnpike exits are built it will be a short commute to Orlando.

If you loving hanging out in a Town Square or shopping then North of 466A is much better .

As far as appreciation, I believe Brownwood will be the best as 44 gets developed. Seems TV is making a big push for Brownwood to be the Grand Entrance.

dewilson58 09-02-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 1281931)
I bought a house in Brownwood and love it. Less congestion, quick access to Turnpike/I75 and plenty of facilities to choose from. Once the Turnpike exits are built it will be a short commute to Orlando.

If you loving hanging out in a Town Square or shopping then North of 466A is much better .

As far as appreciation, I believe Brownwood will be the best as 44 gets developed. Seems TV is making a big push for Brownwood to be the Grand Entrance.

:bigbow:

I agree.......let it come slowly. Love it.

kstew43 09-02-2016 07:57 AM

empty stores are a tax right-off....

Krg675 09-02-2016 08:38 AM

Like your quote!..I guess deep minds think alike.Or is it just simple minds

biker1 09-02-2016 09:31 AM

Expenses, such as utilities, for empty store fronts are legitimate business expenses. If you are suggesting that rent not collected is also a business expense, I don't believe that is true. Full disclosure: I did the taxes for my wife's business for over 10 years.


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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1281974)
empty stores are a tax right-off....


NYGUY 09-02-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1281974)
empty stores are a tax right-off....

What section of the Code is that from? I will have to check it out!!

Bogie Shooter 09-02-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1281974)
empty stores are a tax right-off....

Really?

dewilson58 09-02-2016 03:42 PM

Don't fall for the tax troll

Challenger 09-02-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1281974)
empty stores are a tax right-off....

If you are in a 101 per cent tax bracket!!!

kstew43 09-02-2016 04:59 PM

empty rental property is adjusted in my taxes......

adjusted....right off....same thing.....

graciegirl 09-02-2016 05:32 PM

can you claim empty rental property as a tax write off? - Bing

kstew43 09-02-2016 06:00 PM

If you actively participate in a rental real estate activity, you can deduct up to $25,000 of your rental loss even though it’s passive.

To actively participate means that you own at least 10% of the property, and you make major management decisions, such as approving new tenants, setting rental terms, approving improvements and so forth

I am sure the developer fits into this catagory as well.... I like turbo tax......does all the work for you

Challenger 09-02-2016 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1282335)
If you actively participate in a rental real estate activity, you can deduct up to $25,000 of your rental loss even though it’s passive.

To actively participate means that you own at least 10% of the property, and you make major management decisions, such as approving new tenants, setting rental terms, approving improvements and so forth

I am sure the developer fits into this catagory as well.... I like turbo tax......does all the work for you

To intimate that the property would intentionally be held off the market would not work in a net sense unless the tax savings was in excess of the rent attainable.

dewilson58 09-02-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1282262)
Don't fall for the tax troll

Again.


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