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Pairadocs 03-23-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

Let's face it, it's spring, the racing season in Florida. Maybe he national movement to de-fend the police hit here also ? Not enough to keep serious crime down, so no one available to stop the madness (yes, everyday it's nearly unbelievable on all the major arteries, but B.V. REALLY stands out !) One thing I did notice, many speeding and reckless vehicles seem to be driven by service people of every description, from window treatments, decorative blinds, to lawn mowing, appliance repair, furniture delivery people who REGULARLY use BOTH the vehicle AND golf cart lanes... seen them almost hit so many people in golf carts I lost count... and they don't even look back in the side view mirror ! It is truly out of hand here !

Pairadocs 03-23-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by terryf484 (Post 2200498)
Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

Completely agree ! It's amazing to see what is tolerated. I feel that even going 40 is dangerous the way people squeal out, "gunning" it, running right up on your bumper even when you are going 5 mph OVER the limit, they are angry, very very angry. If someone is poking along, going 20 mph, I can understand how that can be frustrating and dangerous, but really, the anger show to those of us "only" going 5 mph OVER the limit is amazing !

Pairadocs 03-23-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2200284)
good luck on that one

Unfortunately, most of the real "crazies", in the huge trucks, vans, many with tandem trailers LOADED with equipment, literally bouncing up and down like it's going to fly off the double trailers, and the most frightening part... at the high rate of speed they drive, the trailers just swerve back and forth crossing the center line AND the line defining the GOLF CART LANE. I have yet in 18 YEARS seen any of these people pulled over and getting a ticket. I have seen passenger cars, presumably residents, pulled over twice in all those years. Once near the Savannah center, one time near the polo fields... what are the odds that one would only see two people getting tickets in a known "expressway/racetrack, in all those years ! During my career, I saw people getting tickets DAILY on my way to and from work in a medium sized community ! Maybe we need to fund the police (increase) so a few can be assigned to traffic ?

Pairadocs 03-23-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2200296)
In observing traffic going south on Morse after L.S. the other day, I mentioned to my S.O. how cars here, reminded me of when we'd travel through Chicago back in the day. In all the years we've lived here I don't think those 1st years 13* ago were like they are today. Many folks are moving here from metro areas where speeds like this are common. I agree people NEED to slow down!! Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

You've got that correct ! When we built here very VERY few people from large metro areas of any state, it was really rare to meet folks from major metro areas, but.... I always thought those of us from somewhat rural areas were MORE accustomed to going to going as fast as we pleased due to lack of traffic and long stretches where state troopers were highly unlikely to be assigned. You made me re-think that, maybe large metro dwellers are used to speeding. Off topic.... driving into the "big city" was quite a thrill.. A ballgame and George Diamond's on Wabash for a charcoal grilled filet, the most expensive on he menu... $5 or $6, or about the price of ONE HALF a pound of hamburger today. Ain't inflation great ?

Jokomo 03-23-2023 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2200754)
In which case you could be cited for obstructing traffic and failure to move right when another vehicle wants to pass you. And here's a side question----who appointed you the enforcer of speed limits??????

Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

Bill14564 03-23-2023 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200799)
Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

Consider it whatever you like, it is still against the law. Quite ironic that your solution to preventing some from breaking a law is to encourage others to break a related law. How do you justify your hypocrisy?

Wilharm 03-24-2023 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2200489)
and you would be breaking the law too.

What law?

banjobob 03-24-2023 04:32 AM

Good drivers have no problem driving 55 mph , the problems are the “drivers with blinders” not aware of anything beside them or behind them, as always slower traffic in right lane to allow traffic to flow. Driver 101 lesson.

golfing eagles 03-24-2023 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200799)
Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

But I don't drive "as fast as I want", I obey the posted speed limits. However, I am not arrogant enough to propose an illegal method of forcing others to conform to those speed limits, nor am I a LEO wannabee. Remember George Zimmerman????? I would if I were you.

Bill14564 03-24-2023 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilharm (Post 2200813)
What law?

316.081(3) and possibly 316.081(2)

midiwiz 03-24-2023 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by terryf484 (Post 2200498)
Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

LMAO then you were sold a bill of goods..... news alert this really isn't a retirement community over 70% still work. it's a 55+ which is different than retirement

midiwiz 03-24-2023 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by marianne237 (Post 2200561)
Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

that's because GA drivers have beenn conditioned and are anal retentive LOL

midiwiz 03-24-2023 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 2200616)
The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

now there's a great way to get your A... kicked. go ahead and try it.

midiwiz 03-24-2023 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2200831)
316.081(3) and possibly 316.081(2)

the context doesn't apply to the comment you originally responded to, you're over-interpreting that law. the basis of 316.081 (which is never enforced in FL) is quite simple -get the &*&^& out of the left hand lane!

Get real 03-24-2023 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilharm (Post 2200813)
What law?

driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

Get real 03-24-2023 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2200845)
driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

Florida State Statute 316.081 makes it a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation for any driver to dawdle in the left lane proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic and who doesn’t get out of the way of approaching vehicles.

Etpjay960 03-24-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2200250)
In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

I worked on the Chicago Expressways for 33 years before retiring 3 years ago and these streets are child’s play compared to Chicago!!! 😂😂
Do agree people need to slow down, I mean what’s your hurry we’re all retired !! 😂

Bigmo93 03-24-2023 09:14 AM

The problem isn’t so much the speed, but rather all the people staring into space instead of watching the road. People don’t stay in their lanes. They drift all over. The circles are a joke. Lane lines in circles don’t appear to be taken as suggestions. Then you get the idiots making a left from the right lane and vice-versa. We have lived many places, including Europe, and The Villages has by far the most incompetent drivers (I use the term “drivers” loosely) I’ve ever seen anywhere.

DrHitch 03-24-2023 09:45 AM

One word of advice (from a Snowbird).

If you even see a glimmer of a vehicle to your LEFT as you approach a roundabout....then STOP...STOP..

Only enter the roundabout if there is NO TRAFFIC to your left. .it's maddening fast

golfing eagles 03-24-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DrHitch (Post 2200927)
One word of advice (from a Snowbird).

If you even see a glimmer of a vehicle to your LEFT as you approach a roundabout....then STOP...STOP..

Only enter the roundabout if there is NO TRAFFIC to your left. .it's maddening fast

Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

fdpaq0580 03-24-2023 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 2200845)
driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

Slow and fast are only relevant to each other.

golfing eagles 03-24-2023 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2200947)
Slow and fast are only relevant to each other.

Actually, in the context being discussed, they are relative to the posted speed limit

fdpaq0580 03-24-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2200949)
Actually, in the context being discussed, they are relative to the posted speed limit

Faster and slower, above or below the posted speed limit. Posted speed limit may become irrelevant due to traffic, road or weather conditions.

shut the front door 03-24-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2200944)
Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

I think I've been behind this guy. A LOT.

PugMom 03-24-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by marianne237 (Post 2200561)
Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

i'm convinced some cars are not equipped with any, ;)

JMintzer 03-24-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2200999)
i'm convinced some cars are not equipped with any, ;)

No, they just forgot to change their "blinker fluid"...

fdpaq0580 03-24-2023 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2200944)
Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

Speeders, tailgaters, texters, people not driving defensively or paying attention do rear-end more safe and cautious drivers then the other way around. If you have a vehicle on your left, it is possible that your vision may be blocked. Don't go if you can't see. If you should get rear-ended, that jerk is in deep doodoo.


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