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Barefoot 10-15-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 406430)
Always good to hear of more people who think they are beyond the rules.:mad:

Bogie, you are absolutely right. I understand what you're saying, and I didn't mean to downplay the importance of the ARC. I would never suggest anything that deters from the beauty of TV. I'm deleting my post.

angiefox10 10-15-2011 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 406430)
Always good to hear of more people who think they are beyond the rules.:mad:

Awww Bogie Shooter... Let's say we not be so judgmental. You nor I know what anyone did and even if we did, if it's something we can't see, hear or smell... Do we really care?

Bogie Shooter 10-15-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 406438)
Awww Bogie Shooter... Let's say we not be so judgmental. You nor I know what anyone did and even if we did, if it's something we can't see, hear or smell... Do we really care?

The rules are the rules. If you bend one, it becomes a me too and everyone will be saying "why not me". Damn right I care.

angiefox10 10-15-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 406460)
The rules are the rules. If you bend one, it becomes a me too and everyone will be saying "why not me". Damn right I care.


In this whole thread you have not said anything constructive to answering my question or made any suggestions to the situation. You have done nothing but sidestep the question.

If you don't have any suggestions to my situation, would you mind not harassing the people who have come on here who might?

Thanks,

villages07 10-15-2011 04:10 PM

You will hear a lot of recommendations for T&D and they are good. But, right now it takes 30 days just to get someone to come out and give you an estimate...then time needed to complete the project. So, if you want them you have to wait.

We're looking at doing pocket full glass sliders under the roofed part of our lanai (T&D did our birdcage a couple of years ago). Got an estimate (and good recommendations) on White's aluminum but still seeking out a couple more vendors. Also heard good stuff about Jammie Stevens and Express Windows.

angiefox10 10-15-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 406474)
You will hear a lot of recommendations for T&D and they are good. But, right now it takes 30 days just to get someone to come out and give you an estimate...then time needed to complete the project. So, if you want them you have to wait.

We're looking at doing pocket full glass sliders under the roofed part of our lanai (T&D did our birdcage a couple of years ago). Got an estimate (and good recommendations) on White's aluminum but still seeking out a couple more vendors. Also heard good stuff about Jammie Stevens and Express Windows.

Thanks I'll send a note to them as well....

We are coming down in December and are trying to line up our contractors!

Snowbirdtobe 10-15-2011 05:41 PM

My birdcage and pool has 2 small dirt areas built for gardens. I'm sure that it was not altered from the developer built pool in 1996.
I haven't dug more than 8 inched deep in the soil but I think they are open on the bottom.
It would be fine for a small dog as long it was frequently watered and they have good aim.

angiefox10 10-15-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowbirdtobe (Post 406516)
My birdcage and pool has 2 small dirt areas built for gardens. I'm sure that it was not altered from the developer built pool in 1996.
I haven't dug more than 8 inched deep in the soil but I think they are open on the bottom.
It would be fine for a small dog as long it was frequently watered and they has good aim.


Thanks snowbirdtobe. That's kind of what was mentioned in another thread except larger.

When we were looking at pre owned homes we saw a couple with birdcages over the grass. While that would work... It didn't look right.

There is another thread where she had dirt areas at the back of the cage for the dogs with mulch. She said she planted some trees back there for them as well. That was my original thought but then when I started looking into the turf. It's beautiful, has a long life and if done correctly, works just like grass without the upkeep of mowing, watering and worrying about the dogs killing the grass. I have a feeling people are thinking about the stuff you see that is like carpet laying over the concrete and that's not what it is.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but I've seen plenty of cages with plants growing out of the ground at the end of the cages. Maybe a different village. I don't know.

I don't know anything about the ARC or how to get permission for something like that, but I will check into it. In the meantime, I'm sending emails out to some of the recommended companies on TOTV to see if they have ever done it or can do it if I can get permission.

Bogie Shooter 10-15-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 406519)
Thanks snowbirdtobe. That's kind of what was mentioned in another thread except larger.

When we were looking at pre owned homes we saw a couple with birdcages over the grass. While that would work... It didn't look right.

There is another thread where she had dirt areas at the back of the cage for the dogs with mulch. She said she planted some trees back there for them as well. That was my original thought but then when I started looking into the turf. It's beautiful, has a long life and if done correctly, works just like grass without the upkeep of mowing, watering and worrying about the dogs killing the grass. I have a feeling people are thinking about the stuff you see that is like carpet laying over the concrete and that's not what it is.

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but I've seen plenty of cages with plants growing out of the ground at the end of the cages. Maybe a different village. I don't know. I don't know anything about the ARC or how to get permission for something like that, but I will check into it. In the meantime, I'm sending emails out to some of the recommended companies on TOTV to see if they have ever done it or can do it if I can get permission.

Go here to learn about the ARC. (this is not intended to be harrassment)

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...rchreview.aspx

angiefox10 10-15-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 406528)
Go here to learn about the ARC. (this is not intended to be harrassment)

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...rchreview.aspx


Thanks Bogie Shooter!!!! That's a GREAT help! I will contact them about this and see what I can do!

THAT truly was helpful! :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

cquick 10-17-2011 10:38 PM

Why oh why are screen rooms in TV called birdcages? I have lived in Florida for 12 years, and never heard that term until I came here. Anybody actually keep birds in there? :smiley:

graciegirl 10-18-2011 03:42 AM

I don't know why cquick but they are and no birds as far as I know. I was in a brand new house just this week that had a beautiful flower garden and fountain in the middle of the enclosed screen area. (birdcage) So times are a changin'.

The Village Girl 10-18-2011 05:44 AM

There was a poster who suggested we all raise homing pigeons in our birdcages and for those who didn't have birdcages, could foster birds in their birdcages for the rest.

I think I kinda miss him.... :D

bike42 10-18-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 406519)

I don't know anything about the ARC or how to get permission for something like that, but I will check into it. In the meantime, I'm sending emails out to some of the recommended companies on TOTV to see if they have ever done it or can do it if I can get permission.

You will not have any problem getting ARC permission; they are concerned about what the birdcage looks like from the outside. As long as it is structurally sound and looks good from the neighboring houses, you can do whatever you want inside.

vj1213 10-18-2011 10:42 AM

Don't know about the area for pets, but my neighbors and I all used Kilcrease for our birdcages. They did a great job, and I understand they are a bit less than T&D


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