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Mikeod 03-07-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 463691)
The only thing that's a cause for concern is that the wildwood city council just changed the zoning of the cattle ranch between tamarind grove and 466a to multi use. Opens the door for almost anything. I'm hoping for a nuclear power plant.

Isn't that where Trailwinds Village is going?

mulligan 03-07-2012 12:01 PM

That's a proposal, but it's partly based on grant money, and not cast in stone. If the landowner/rancher gets an offer he can't refuse, it could be anything.

skyguy79 03-07-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 463763)
Isn't that where Trailwinds Village is going?

Mike et al, if you go to the pdf link below, you can scroll down to page 98 and reduce it to about 30% if you can. That will give a pretty good view of the plans for the development of the area between Tamarind Grove and 466A as being discussed and according to the document on which it resides.

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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 460617)
I noticed in The Daily Sun yesterday an article saying that Wildwood has approved rezoning of 157 acres along 466A for development. The change allows use of the land for a mix of retail, medical, office, residential, and recreational. This property is on the north side of 466A between Buena Vista and Powell Road. Below is the link to the town meeting minutes. Wish I knew how to reduce it to the applicable pages. Anyway pages 75 - 108 are pertinent to this project. I found pages 79 & 98 interesting.

http://www.wildwood-fl.gov/vertical/Sites/%7B2B1FDA13-2F94-4097-8D07-352D07554D9B%7D/uploads/2012.02.27_Complete_Agenda_Packet_-_255_pgs.pdf


The Village Girl 03-07-2012 04:29 PM

I would think that with all the questions that were asked, maybe... just maybe... if shopping was important, a person would build/buy near the shopping. I know that's a silly thought. I'm just a silly kind of girl! :D

graciegirl 03-07-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Village Girl (Post 463897)
I would think that with all the questions that were asked, maybe... just maybe... if shopping was important, a person would build/buy near the shopping. I know that's a silly thought. I'm just a silly kind of girl! :D


Welcome back Village Girl. Hadn't heard from you for awhile. Were you on a cruise?

Hope your ship stayed right side up.

JohnN 03-07-2012 06:55 PM

it's 3 miles from my place in StJames to Colony plaza.

Happinow 03-07-2012 07:00 PM

love to shop
 
Village girl, you are right except for one thing....I didn't see any lots available in TV to build on that was any closer to shopping. If there was, our realtor didn't show them to us. We wanted to build and not buy resale. If we can't get to the shopping, they need to bring the shopping to us!

The Village Girl 03-07-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 463967)
Village girl, you are right except for one thing....I didn't see any lots available in TV to build on that was any closer to shopping. If there was, our realtor didn't show them to us. We wanted to build and not buy resale. If we can't get to the shopping, they need to bring the shopping to us!

Did you consider building in Orlando? :D

Skybo 03-07-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Village Girl (Post 463897)
I would think that with all the questions that were asked, maybe... just maybe... if shopping was important, a person would build/buy near the shopping. I know that's a silly thought. I'm just a silly kind of girl! :D

It’s not just about the distance to shopping areas. It’s also about the growing population and how crowded the shops are. Retail locations on and south of 466a will also cut down on the amount of vehicular traffic travelling through TV to get to the north side. It will be good for all of us, regardless of our location in TV.

graciegirl 03-07-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 463967)
Village girl, you are right except for one thing....I didn't see any lots available in TV to build on that was any closer to shopping. If there was, our realtor didn't show them to us. We wanted to build and not buy resale. If we can't get to the shopping, they need to bring the shopping to us!

Well you aren't alone south of 466A. You can put together a caravan and take food and water and drive to Kohls.

skyguy79 03-07-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl (Post 464012)
Well you aren't alone south of 466A. You can put together a caravan and take food and water and drive to Kohls.

There might be an opportunity for an intra-TV travel agent here! :D

CarGuys 03-07-2012 09:17 PM

Consider
 
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Originally Posted by The Village Girl (Post 463974)
Did you consider building in Orlando? :D

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Happinow 03-07-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Village Girl (Post 463974)
Did you consider building in Orlando? :D

Not!

Happinow 03-07-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl (Post 464012)
Well you aren't alone south of 466A. You can put together a caravan and take food and water and drive to Kohls.

We'll pack a lunch!!

Finallyfree 03-08-2012 10:58 AM

Our sales agent told us this week, that there will be a new Villages hospital down off 44, (they just got the go ahead); where there are medical facilities there is usually retail. I don't want to see fast food row, but some retail options would be nice at that end of the community(we willbe inCharlotte).

graciegirl 03-08-2012 11:05 AM

They have built it. The commercial will come.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

The Villages....most of what we see, was done in the last decade.

Patience.

keithwand 03-08-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 464059)
Not!

Now wait a minute. Folks think Orlando is Disney and most have never actually been to O town proper.

Check online for Baldwin Park (within the city limits) and Winter Park.

Both are very nice not to mention numerous other neighborhoods within Orlando and the convenience of everything within a few miles. The problem is its a working town and not much to do for retired people.

We actually thought the same about TV; not us, until we visited and realized its hard to judge anywhere without visiting. We will miss it but look forward to out TV move.

AND thankfully for us the TV prices are lower than where we are so we can add a pool, cage and summer kitchen for the same money.

CarGuys 03-08-2012 10:18 PM

Patience
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 464219)
They have built it. The commercial will come.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

The Villages....most of what we see, was done in the last decade.

Patience.

Lets hope it's a slow build if and when it even happens! I am really surprised that TV did not acquire that tract of land?

Skybo 03-08-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 464617)
Lets hope it's a slow build if and when it even happens! I am really surprised that TV did not acquire that tract of land?

Which tract of land? If you are talking about the land on the north side of 466A (adjacent to Tamarind Grove), I’m sure that TV would have acquired the land if the owners were willing to sell it to them. I’m guessing that the land owners were holding out for something more lucrative. I’ll be sad to see the cow pastures go, but I suspect it’s going to happen pretty quickly.

CarGuys 03-09-2012 12:18 AM

Build out
 
Right as it stands now it is half gone.

The lower section of Tamarind Grove is safe from the proposed new commercial park and homes. The 255 page Wildwood documents have this section still zoned as Agricultural.

When we bought we knew it would some day go. I figure even if it did a 25 foot mandatory buffer of landscape would be better than looking at someone's Lani.

I do enjoy the cows coming down in the evening to graze right next to the house. I'm thinking a salt lick would make me popular and maybe stomp out the Gophers! LOL

skyguy79 03-09-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 464635)
I do enjoy the cows coming down in the evening to graze right next to the house. I'm thinking a salt lick would make me popular and maybe stomp out the Gophers! LOL

Don't forget them at Christmas and Valentine's Day or they just might stop grazing next to your house!
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CarGuys 03-09-2012 09:49 AM

Buildout
 
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Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 464702)
Don't forget them at Christmas and Valentine's Day or they just might stop grazing next to your house!
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...88qSM2N69A&t=1

Personally I don't think the new TrailWinds Village has a chance! Remember the movie " Caddy Shack"

I have a entire Village of them fuzzy critters in that Cow Pasture!

gvsulakerfan 03-09-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 464635)
Right as it stands now it is half gone.

The lower section of Tamarind Grove is safe from the proposed new commercial park and homes. The 255 page Wildwood documents have this section still zoned as Agricultural.

When we bought we knew it would some day go. I figure even if it did a 25 foot mandatory buffer of landscape would be better than looking at someone's Lani.

I do enjoy the cows coming down in the evening to graze right next to the house. I'm thinking a salt lick would make me popular and maybe stomp out the Gophers! LOL

None of the property on 466A that is within Wildwood City Limits is zoned agricultural.

CarGuys 03-10-2012 11:48 PM

What I meant
 
Read the 255 page report look at the maps and zoning and you can read and see what I was refering to.

Which is the non village property in back of Tamarind now a cow pasture. Wildwood just approved the construction. So I assumed.

Sorry for any confusion. My reference was to the in print documentation of that land in back of our homes which is still as per the survey zonned agricultural. Or so the map in front of me states.

The new TrailWinds Village is above the hill from us.



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champion6 03-11-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 465451)
Read the 255 page report look at the maps and zoning and you can read and see what I was referring to.

Which is the non village property in back of Tamarind now a cow pasture. Wildwood just approved the construction. So I assumed.

Sorry for any confusion. My reference was to the in print documentation of that land in back of our homes which is still as per the survey zoned agricultural. Or so the map in front of me states.

The new TrailWinds Village is above the hill from us.

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CarGuys, page 78 of the 255 page document shows that the property behind you is zoned CMU (Central Mixed Use). This is the same zoning as the property where Trailwinds Village is going to be built.

You are correct to say that the current use is agricultural. The same is true for the Trailwinds Village property.

This is ALL very confusing and difficult for the lay person to understand and follow. I should know since I own a home on Ansley Path which abuts the proposed Trailwinds Village project. I have been following this for many months - making phone calls and attending meetings, etc. In fact, I wrote the letter that appears on page 104 of the 255 page document. Lately, I have felt like I'm back in school attending Civics Class as I have learned about the operations of the City of Wildwood and Sumter County.

NJblue 03-11-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 465542)
CarGuys, page 78 of the 255 page document shows that the property behind you is zoned CMU (Central Mixed Use). This is the same zoning as the property where Trailwinds Village is going to be built.

You are correct to say that the current use is agricultural. The same is true for the Trailwinds Village property.

This is ALL very confusing and difficult for the lay person to understand and follow. I should know since I own a home on Ansley Path which abuts the proposed Trailwinds Village project. I have been following this for many months - making phone calls and attending meetings, etc. In fact, I wrote the letter that appears on page 104 of the 255 page document. Lately, I have felt like I'm back in school attending Civics Class as I have learned about the operations of the City of Wildwood and Sumter County.

Having attended meetings about this, what is your perception about the reality of this plan and its time-frame? From perusing the layout, it does look fairly inviting as far as aesthetics are concerned (at least from a prospective of a potential user of this development ... not sure about from a neighbor perspective.) The way that they show many separate buildings spread around the plot rather than a massive centralized structure sounds appealing. I would also think that the change from general apartments to senior housing will lead to a quieter environment.

champion6 03-11-2012 01:15 PM

Re: the plan - It has been explained to us that this is only a conceptual plan. The number, shape and location of the buildings may change. We won't know more until detailed site plans are submitted to Wildwood for review.

Re: the timing - Honestly, I can only guess. And your guess would be as good as mine. I have been told that it is more likely that the retail/office portion near 466A will be developed before the assisted living portion is developed. I'm guessing a couple years, but don't know.

The conceptual plans were created by the developer (Word family) so that Wildwood could create an ordinance to define the project. But the plans could change and Wildwood would review them and then revise the ordinance.

There is more uncertainty... the property is For Sale. If the Word family sells the property, the new owner could very well completely change the plans. Of course, any changes must be submitted to Wildwood for review.

mulligan 03-11-2012 03:40 PM

Does that mean I could still get my nuclear power plant??

The Village Girl 03-11-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 465690)
Does that mean I could still get my nuclear power plant??

That looks like a 10/4 good buddy!

CarGuys 03-11-2012 11:44 PM

Feel you PAin
 
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 465601)
Re: the plan - It has been explained to us that this is only a conceptual plan. The number, shape and location of the buildings may change. We won't know more until detailed site plans are submitted to Wildwood for review.

Re: the timing - Honestly, I can only guess. And your guess would be as good as mine. I have been told that it is more likely that the retail/office portion near 466A will be developed before the assisted living portion is developed. I'm guessing a couple years, but don't know.

The conceptual plans were created by the developer (Word family) so that Wildwood could create an ordinance to define the project. But the plans could change and Wildwood would review them and then revise the ordinance.

There is more uncertainty... the property is For Sale. If the Word family sells the property, the new owner could very well completely change the plans. Of course, any changes must be submitted to Wildwood for review.

Thank's for you insight. I feel your pain and read in detail the reaction of having the " Tall" buildings moved down lower, the trees saved and the new developer having to make it so noise night lights etc make it a friendly neighborhood.

It appears that there are some that rejoice in Ansely concerns and others mis fortune of having a beautiful view ruined by a Senior Citizens Home or another housing project.

Many residents were mis-lead that because The Village did not buy that property it was going to stay as a Argicultural/Wildlife buffer for the distant future,

Now lets wait for the Chernobyl fan who wants his Nuke Plant. Ohh to late already posted. Attachment 2100


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