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Packer Fan 08-18-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1437291)
I'll make book that TVLSI ( Developer) can't produce the documentation that supports the so called 80/20 split. I will make book that there are already a substantial number of people under 55 living here.

I have no dog in this fight... its just a don't want anyone to believe they can pull the wool.....thingy

Yes they do keep track, and the number is around 8% (at least it was when I bought). The reason I know is I am under 55 and I asked.

rubicon 08-19-2017 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1437375)
Yes they do keep track, and the number is around 8% (at least it was when I bought). The reason I know is I am under 55 and I asked.

"the reason I know is that I am under 55 and I asked."

First, welcome to The Villages I am certain you are a welcome addition .

I did mentioned earlier that I do not care what age group buys here. My point was that TVLSI marketed this community as a retirement community for 55+. It has morphed into something entirely different be it good or bad. I let others decide the good and the bad.

As to the % you asked and they throw a number at you and that's proof.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Personal Best Regards:

Polar Bear 08-19-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1437459)
...My point was that TVLSI marketed this community as a retirement community for 55+. It has morphed into something entirely different be it good or bad...

I of course accept that as your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more.

The presence of a sub-55 segment of the population in no way changes the fact that TV is a dedicated "retirement community for 55+". And a pretty good one too imho. :)

Barefoot 08-19-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1437336)
I really don't care how big The Villages gets, AS LONG AS the developers keep up the infrastructure in the older parts and keeps building golf courses.

:agree:

justjim 08-19-2017 12:15 PM

8% about right for new homes
 
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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1437375)
Yes they do keep track, and the number is around 8% (at least it was when I bought). The reason I know is I am under 55 and I asked.

The number under 55 @ 8% sounds about right for new home sales. Following this number are resales, rentals and under 55 living with parents, uncles, aunts etc. IMHO the total still would be less than 20%----15% or less would be my guess. As long as the amenities, infrastructure and commercial keep up with what is current available in TV, I have no problem with continued growth. I learned a long time ago that it's difficult, if not impossible, to stop growth and development. Reason: Developers creates jobs and jobs create consumers and consumers are necessary for the economy. And so on.......:beer3:

Mrs. Robinson 08-20-2017 05:21 AM

I said in another thread that I don't believe The Villages really knows the percentage of those under 55.
I believe there are many children of current owners, who are not registered because they don't partake in any of the activities.

graciegirl 08-20-2017 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1437826)
I said in another thread that I don't believe The Villages really knows the percentage of those under 55.
I believe there are many children of current owners, who are not registered because they don't partake in any of the activities.

HUD Laws for Age-Restricted Home Communities | Home Guides | SF Gate

Topspinmo 08-20-2017 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1437349)
In a couple years the last of the Boomers will be 55 and most will likely work 7 to 12 more years after that and then comes Generation X, whole new set of values, ambitions, and they will be paying for their kids college tuition. The early boomers could well afford to go to college by working part time and just some help from their parents, not so today but they have loans available which are good and bad, depending on their values and ability to get the jobs they want. I think homes will sell at a steady pace for the ext 10 to 15 years and after that there will be a big change. We early boomers are going to start dying off at the same rate we were born and there will be a huge number of resales available which will change the marketing strategy of TV but I'm sure they are well aware of whats ahead and are already making plans to offset the available properties.

The is Hugh amount of resale now on the market and there always be. Most don't sale that quickly. Zillow shows most resale's on the market. They village sales only list theirs. As new villages flood the market. Resale's will sales will slow in not prime locations. Ok all you few that sold in week can contradict what's reality now.

jsw14 08-20-2017 07:56 AM

Heck, I don't care if TV build's 100,000 more homes. As long as your house go's UP in value (& it will) I'll be a Happy camper. I wish All of us could take it with U when the time comes.

collie1228 08-20-2017 08:15 AM

Let me preface my comment on the fact that I love TV and wouldn't want to live anywhere else at this time of my life. But (there's always a "but"), as long a Morse Blvd. is the main North/South highway in TV, the traffic, bad already, will become intolerable if another 50,000 people move here. I live just a half block of Morse, north of 466, and even during this time of the year with the snowbirds gone, I generally have to wait for twenty or thirty cars to pass before I can pull out with my golf cart and drive to the mail station in the early afternoon. This was not the case when I moved here five years ago. When the birds return you can expect to wait for fifty or more cars to pass. My thought is that the developer should commit to widening Morse between 466 and 27/441 before he is allowed to build that many more houses. That would include new dedicated multimode paths and tunnels as necessary. Otherwise this paradise is going to become just another high traffic nightmare. I don't blame the developer for this situation, as he never conceived of the scope of this place when Morse Blvd. was designed. But I do expect the family with its well-deserved billions of dollars to do something about it.

Polar Bear 08-20-2017 08:42 AM

Of course there are isolated cases of nasty traffic. But TV a "traffic nightmare"? Not even close. At its worst, TV traffic is a breeze compared to almost any urban area.

Fred R 08-20-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jsw14 (Post 1437878)
Heck, I don't care if TV build's 100,000 more homes. As long as your house go's UP in value (& it will) I'll be a Happy camper. I wish All of us could take it with U when the time comes.

When a came here a couple of years ago and fell in love the TV, I was told that TV could never go south of 44. After I purchased and was here for awhile I went to the dedication of Rohan Center where they said it was the LAST rec center to be built. Then in 16 information came out on Fenney. Now in 17, more land is purchased west of Leesburg and a total of 22,000 more houses just in the next couple of years. If readers think values are going to go up with the developer selling homes for $161,000 to $181,000 to start I think they are wrong. Residents will always be selling against the developer. For the folks that bought 8, 10, 15 yrs ago they will make out. Those of us who bought in the last 2 or 3 yrs will get screwed unless you are under 65 and plan to own a long time. I don't have 15 or 20 yrs to regroup my investment.

jsw14 08-20-2017 09:00 AM

Hmmm, the wife & I did our home-work when we were look'in to move to TV. (May 2011) We lived in Tennessee on 10 acre's in the rural area. (talk about down sizing) We looked at about 15-18 houses within 4 hours. Our biggest concern was just that "Traffic"..... We don't need to be close to shopping & all that go's with it. That's why we picked out a house on a cul-da-sack here in Springdale. Nice & quite with not much Traffic around us.

Signed>> Happy Camper......:)

Barefoot 08-20-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1437896)
I don't have 15 or 20 yrs to regroup my investment.

I think you should stop fretting about recouping your investment! :ohdear:
Look at it this way --- you are lucky and blessed because you've found the perfect retirement community. :MOJE_whot:

Packer Fan 08-20-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1437459)
"the reason I know is that I am under 55 and I asked."

First, welcome to The Villages I am certain you are a welcome addition .

I did mentioned earlier that I do not care what age group buys here. My point was that TVLSI marketed this community as a retirement community for 55+. It has morphed into something entirely different be it good or bad. I let others decide the good and the bad.

As to the % you asked and they throw a number at you and that's proof.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Personal Best Regards:

I felt they were being honest, I guess I did not know I had to ask for the documentation. :police: However, I can also tell you that of the more than 50 couples that have called interested in renting, none have been less than 55. Most have been over 60 to be honest.

I can't wait to actually move down. I only get to visit 3 or 4 times a year, and I ALWAYS hate to leave.
Ed


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