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NECHFalcon68 12-27-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dengid (Post 801680)
The Sumter Co. Sheriff is being proactive and watching out for us.

Unfortunately, if the ACLU gets wind of this there will allegations of profiling....
let's face it, we are an affluent community surrounded by "less-affluent" communities...and prime targets for those who are desperate. As time goes on there will be more reports like the OP.

We need to be vigilant....

HTing 12-27-2013 09:50 AM

Information
 
After reading the many posts on this topic I can only offer the following:

Marion County Sheriff's Office
Web Marion County Sheriff | - Village Res telephone 352-753-2211

Sumter County Sherriff's Office
Web Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website - telephone 352-569-1600
They have a crime line 800-423-TIPS

You can always call 911

I would love to see a Police type Blotter just to help with awareness.

Would I think of selling or not buying after reading any of the posts "H*** NO"

I am not going to bite that apple and leave Paradise.

asianthree 12-27-2013 10:01 AM

i always wonder how a post about making us aware of a possible issue becomes a bashing of posters...thanks to all who's post was about the possible issues at hand

Moderator 12-27-2013 10:03 AM

A number of posts with direct or indirect comments directed at each other have been deleted.

Please stay on topic and lean more on facts than rumors and innuendo.

Thanks for your cooperation.

swimdawg 12-27-2013 10:03 AM

Knowledge is power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HTing (Post 801709)
After reading the many posts on this topic I can only offer the following:

Marion County Sheriff's Office
Web Marion County Sheriff | - Village Res telephone 352-753-2211

Sumter County Sherriff's Office
Web Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website - telephone 352-569-1600
They have a crime line 800-423-TIPS

You can always call 911

I would love to see a Police type Blotter just to help with awareness.

Would I think of selling or not buying after reading any of the posts "H*** NO"

I am not going to bite that apple and leave Paradise.

I think knowledge is a good thing........and I'd love to see a Police-type Blotter. We have it up here in Swimdawg North and not only is it informative, but it is entertaining as well. Some of the police calls listed are LOL funny........and some very serious. Bottom line: knowledge is power.

redwitch 12-27-2013 10:11 AM

Just got this email about the break-in. This is definitely the house on Allaire. I removed personal information so that the homeowner's name and house number are not available.

"Thought everyone should know, our house was robbed while we at the grocery store. Only gone about an hour. Took cash and jewelry but search all drawers and closets. Even took tools from garage and broke open a small safe with just important documents inside.

Got in by prying open slider on back of house. Police came and got a lot of finger prints off door and safe. Hope they catch the sob.

We're ok but feel violated.

Tell all neighbors to be on the lookout for strangers in the area."

Sounds like they may have been targeting this house (maybe a worker who had been inside and knew there were valuables?) and watching to see when the homeowners were going out. Imagine if they'd come in while the bad guy was there. I'm so glad they're safe.

jbdlfan 12-27-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Peachie (Post 801688)
I think this is a good question, jbdlfan. Personally, I would like this information very accessible but not printed in the Daily Sun. My preference would be for the villages dash news to carry this info. I want the Sun to provide the information to me in the form it is currently delivered and that would alleviate any angst against the Sun in the event something is missed or misstated. I could tap into the villages dash news anytime I wanted a police blotter fix.

I think you might be right on here Peachie. Leave the Sun as the "feel good" recreation newsletter and have a more direct informational site. It would also, as you say, get everyone off the Sun's back regarding printing "the bad stuff."

rubicon 12-27-2013 10:18 AM

One of the reasons some people are reacting the way they have with this thread is because of the misplaced opinion they have had of The villages such as comparing it to Disneyworld. "Indeed it is as painful to be awakening from a vision as to be born." ( James Joyce)

As indicated in previous posts I am very guarded and this topic is one reason why. "Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? "the shadow knows'"

I would prefer to error on the side of people jokingly reporting a crime on TOTV than to ignore it. I say this because it seems remote and not motivational to want to report a false crime, and it has the benefit of reminding me to stay aware and alert.

It has been a concern of my since arriving that employers, including the Developer do not do a sufficient review of the people they hire.

combine this Disneyworld view of residents with an less than vetted workforce and add in easily available valuables lying around, sparse policing and you create the perfect storm.

Break-ins have been occurring before I arrived and have only increased since both north and south in TV.

rubicon 12-27-2013 10:23 AM

A public service announcement in New York is, "see something" "say something"

ccalvertr 12-27-2013 10:38 AM

House robbed on Adrienne way
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 801522)
If so, I apologize. I cannot imagine posting these things with no validation. It always bothers me that people feel the can just say things on here..that is childish.

I have lived here for approx 13 years, and what people have been posting is totally foreign, and I speak with many many folks in the course of a day. It just seems the "reports" are coming from "newer" members of TOTV, in some cases if you read past posts what seems to be an agenda.

Any adult who runs to TOTV to yell crime wit so little attempt at validation bothers me.

If wrong...sorry, but my gut usually sends me in the right direction

I know for a (FACT) that the house was robbed and the front door kicked in
in on Adrienne Way because I live across the street and seen the damage
with my own eyes and talked to the owner.

courtyard 12-27-2013 02:27 PM

To prevent entry from our "slider" door, we inserted (in the track) a 2" wide board around 36" long. It prevents the door from being slid back.

graciegirl 12-27-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ccalvertr (Post 801761)
I know for a (FACT) that the house was robbed and the front door kicked in
in on Adrienne Way because I live across the street and seen the damage
with my own eyes and talked to the owner.



Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?

redwitch 12-27-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 801912)
Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?

'

I've heard of four now (two might actually be the same home, not sure). One I know of as fact. I'll believe the email I received since it had the homeowner's name and address and I do know that there was at least one break-in on that street, possibly two. The other two that I've heard of fall in the someone told me category, so not as sure although my sources are very reliable.

Of course, the easy way to confirm this is to call the Sumter County Sheriff and ask. (I'm too lazy and really do have full confidence that the perpetrator(s) will be caught.)

Chazz 12-27-2013 03:26 PM

After reading some of the responses to the OP in this thread, I would have to think long and hard, before I would post a message informing the forum of such an incident that came to my attention. I wouldn't be surprised if many other "silent" watchers of this thread have gotten the same message that I did. I thank the OP for informing us and for enduring doubts cast on his integrity.

tommy steam 12-27-2013 04:51 PM

Sorry about what happened to you. Hopefully the police will patrol more in the area.

Cedwards38 12-27-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 801667)
Got one, a five shot and the other one is a six shot.

I understand that, but these people aren't robbing homes when people are home. How do you turn on your five and six shot when you're away. I still say, get a security system.

rubicon 12-27-2013 05:09 PM

Based on the redundancy of comments it may be members are more interested in sharing their opinion than sharing???????????????

KathieI 12-27-2013 05:27 PM

Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.

swimdawg 12-27-2013 08:13 PM

Huge wake-up call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 802015)
Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.

I agree with you, KathieI.

I've had a motion light sitting on my desk for many months. I always thought, "I will install it next time I'm in Swimdawg South". Thank you for reminding me. Next time is here!

I also have a camera that I can install and check out my house online. I'm always so busy when I'm in TV.....and it's easy to say, "I'll install it next time". Yep....next time is NOW!!! No more procrastinating.

You're right about low crime in TV....and it's easy to "put our heads in the sand" and merrily go on our way.

This has been a huge wake-up call!

Lovey2 12-27-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 801912)
Yes there were TWO very close there. No one disputes that. But what I STILL don't understand from the posts on this forum was there a third in Sanibel? We all heard about the one yesterday in Fernandina. In a previous post, Angie Fox mentioned several others and her post was the only time I had heard that there were several others south of 466A. Has anyone heard anything about the rest of those crimes?

Not quite accurate. Originally Happinow, who lives in Sanibel, said there were 3 burglaries in Sanibel. She was talking about the third one, and several people disputed that she knew this for fact, she does, and someone even inferred a lot of "new" people were posting and not to be trusted because we were new. I was pretty sure you were in on that thread, Gracie. Happinow was quite clear that there was a 3rd in Sanibel.

graciegirl 12-27-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovey2 (Post 802095)
Not quite accurate. Originally Happinow, who lives in Sanibel, said there were 3 burglaries in Sanibel. She was talking about the third one, and several people disputed that she knew this for fact, she does, and someone even inferred a lot of "new" people were posting and not to be trusted because we were new. I was pretty sure you were in on that thread, Gracie. Happinow was quite clear that there was a 3rd in Sanibel.


You are correct. I completely misinterpreted what she said .

Barefoot 12-27-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovey2 (Post 801673)
OH, for Pete's sake. Can't we just take the advice as given, be more cognizant of what's going on in the neighborhood, and leave it at that? What's with all the "false reporting" and fact finding.

:agree:

Sable99 12-27-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 802015)
Personally, I want to thank the OP for alerting us to this crime and to the poor victims for wanting us to know this happened to them. Although it scares me to hear of these crimes, it also alerts me as to be smarter and don't take anything for granted. I remember a few years ago when there were a couple of robberies near Stillwater and Morse (I know these were true because one of my good friends home was robbed), our neighborhood met to discuss how we can all help each other. One of the men cut the poles for us to put in our slider doors so they can't be pried open and we discussed various things we as individuals should be doing to increase our security. At that time, I ordered motion lights for my lanai and outside my house and we were all on alert watching each others homes. Sounds like a good time to do that again.

Yes, crime happens everywhere, especially in most of the cities I lived in, and not much crime happens in The Villages, but that doesn't mean we should put our heads in the sand and not heed these warnings.


The motion lights are a great idea!

dillywho 12-27-2013 10:30 PM

Fyi
 
The SO will come to your home and make security suggestions (no charge). One of the things the deputy who came to our house told us to do, is to simply put a small dowel in the track above the slider. The dowel rides along the track, which prevents anyone from lifting the door from the track. He showed me how the door could be lifted out even with a board blocking the bottom track. Can't be done with the dowel on top. Do both.

I let at least one of my neighbors know when I am going to be gone, especially any length of time or if we are both going.

Don't tell people via your answering machine that you're not home or post plans on social media. I keep my landline forwarded to my cell phone (for various reasons) and people don't know that I am not home. Most times, I am here.

Please don't put your trash out early! A guy down the street from us was broken into several years ago because he put his trash out on Friday for Monday pickup. Arrange to have a neighbor set your trash out on trash day. We even "share" trash with some so it looks like someone is in town.

You can "share" your driveway when you're gone, too.

We do have an alarm system that also serves as medical, etc., as well. The only way someone would know it is here is when it is breached. The siren is deafening! You want the element of surprise and don't want them in your house in the first place.

I stopped a young man on a bicycle going up and down the driveways one day and asked if I could help him. He explained to me that he was checking the electric meters and showed me what he was doing. Remember, vigilance was what caught the package-swiping thief last week.

Make it a point to go outside several times a day for something, even if you just walk around the house checking the yard/landscaping/and what's going on. Residential activity is pretty deterrent to criminals. If you see something that just doesn't look/feel right, ask questions or make a call. Law enforcement won't mind coming out and their presence at various times is pretty good insurance.

Lovey2 12-28-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 802137)
The SO will come to your home and make security suggestions (no charge). One of the things the deputy who came to our house told us to do, is to simply put a small dowel in the track above the slider. The dowel rides along the track, which prevents anyone from lifting the door from the track. He showed me how the door could be lifted out even with a board blocking the bottom track. Can't be done with the dowel on top. Do both.

I let at least one of my neighbors know when I am going to be gone, especially any length of time or if we are both going.

Don't tell people via your answering machine that you're not home or post plans on social media. I keep my landline forwarded to my cell phone (for various reasons) and people don't know that I am not home. Most times, I am here.



Please don't put your trash out early! A guy down the street from us was broken into several years ago because he put his trash out on Friday for Monday pickup. Arrange to have a neighbor set your trash out on trash day. We even "share" trash with some so it looks like someone is in town.

You can "share" your driveway when you're gone, too.

We do have an alarm system that also serves as medical, etc., as well. The only way someone would know it is here is when it is breached. The siren is deafening! You want the element of surprise and don't want them in your house in the first place.

I stopped a young man on a bicycle going up and down the driveways one day and asked if I could help him. He explained to me that he was checking the electric meters and showed me what he was doing. Remember, vigilance was what caught the package-swiping thief last week.

Make it a point to go outside several times a day for something, even if you just walk around the house checking the yard/landscaping/and what's going on. Residential activity is pretty deterrent to criminals. If you see something that just doesn't look/feel right, ask questions or make a call. Law enforcement won't mind coming out and their presence at various times is pretty good insurance.

all good advice...never heard of the dowel, will get that!!

shcisamax 12-28-2013 07:36 AM

I hesitate to post this because I expect someone is going to say something derogatory or accuse me of making it up or in some other way way comment to make me wish I hadn't shared this. But I do want you all to know the police are really on this.

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door. Two men got out with wands to spray the grass. They said they were from Massey but had not yet gotten their truck painted with the logo. Someone took down the license plate as they left and later called Massey to ask if they had unmarked trucks. They said, "No." The police were called. Four cars arrived with five policemen. They are NOT messing around. As it turned out, the guys WERE from Massey but the woman didn't know they didn't have the logo. Guess they will now get that logo on their truck pronto. :) Although it was a false alarm, the police said everyone did the right thing under the circumstances. So know that they want to get calls with any suspicious activity.

Cobh521 12-28-2013 08:22 AM

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door.

I am only offering a suggestion. If someone is away and there are notices from vendors or the post office, it may be in their best interest to have a neighbor remove them and give to the owners when they return. I have done this on several occasions and the owners were grateful.

Cisco Kid 12-28-2013 08:27 AM

Sooner or later someone is going to post a photo of police cars at a house with a door kicked in.

Then this thread may get some action.

Lovey2 12-28-2013 08:28 AM

We came from an area where a lot of our neighbors were snowbirds. We are in the habit of looking out for homes that look unoccupied...removing any papers, mail in doors, and even putting our trash out at the empty homes. We have continued to do so here. Hey, thinking of a neighborhood watch kinda thing. Anybody have that going on in their immediate neighborhoods??

kittygilchrist 12-28-2013 08:41 AM

I drove through Sanibel yesterday, Lovey, just keeping an eye out. I can drive around once a day on watch. Neighborhood watch is a good idea but to be most effective would need a leader and org meetings.

Lovey2 12-28-2013 09:11 AM

I'm thinking we may hafta get something going here around Brinkley, Albara. We've had the models to rely on for lotsa traffic, but I think most will be closed after the 1st. (?) Maybe we can talk it up at the NYE get together. Yes, I will drive thru the neighborhood more, too...good idea!

KathieI 12-28-2013 09:16 AM

Sometimes the police have a PR person who can help you organize a community watch. They held one meeting a month with us in Los Angeles and helped keep the program going. Must say it was very effective.

Shcisamax, that was a good job. Keeping your eyes open and alerting the police of suspicious situations. I found the police to be very responsive here when we were having an issue in our neighborhood. They took care of the total situation and told us to call them anytime we had a problem.

swimdawg 12-28-2013 09:49 AM

SPOTD Award!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 802196)
Sooner or later someone is going to post a photo of police cars at a house with a door kicked in.

Then this thread may get some action.

I know.....this thread needs some action....sooo boring!

And with that said, YOU get the Swimdawg Post of the Day Award!:eclipsee_gold_cup:

angiefox10 12-28-2013 09:55 AM

Thank you!
 
I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

Lovey2 12-28-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 802240)
I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

Exactly!! And, it seems to me, these are broad daylight robberies. We are used to patrolling at night only. Just think, if every time you left your house, you took a few extra minutes to drive a few surrounding streets...AND....ASK questions. If it's a neighbor, they'll thank you...if it's not...your neighbor's will still Thank you. I had a neighbor almost chase my Aunt and cousin off my dock one day, because she didn't know who she was!! I, and my Aunt, appreciated the effort. I lived alone at the time!! The police can't be everywhere and they don't know our neighborhoods like we do...let's get out there!!

rubicon 12-28-2013 10:23 AM

You can purchase an alarm system. You can strategically position motion detectors . You can buy a guard dog. You can insert bars to prevent sliding doors from sliding. However this guy in broad daylight is knocking down doors and short of bolting a heavy plank horizontally across the door every time you leave the house well.............................................. .........And if you door is designed with a tiffany glass insert forget the plank

The sheriff's department needs to be much more active in neighborhoods. Community Watch needs to be even more visible

swimdawg 12-28-2013 10:28 AM

Totally agree!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 802240)
I think this has turned into a VERY positive thread... I love problem solving. I for one have gotten some good ideas on how to be a better neighbor. Things I can do to protect my neighbor's and my home.

Please keep the ideas coming and please don't be afraid to post if you see something. I would rather you post wrong than to not post anything and have more homes broken into as a result of no one being aware.

Does it really matter if they came through the front door or the back? The important thing to get out is that someone is out there and we need to keep our eyes open.

You are spot on, Angie. You should get the SPOTD Award!

graciegirl 12-28-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 802176)
I hesitate to post this because I expect someone is going to say something derogatory or accuse me of making it up or in some other way way comment to make me wish I hadn't shared this. But I do want you all to know the police are really on this.

There was an unmarked truck on my street yesterday morning at a house that had no one home and had postal notices in the door. Two men got out with wands to spray the grass. They said they were from Massey but had not yet gotten their truck painted with the logo. Someone took down the license plate as they left and later called Massey to ask if they had unmarked trucks. They said, "No." The police were called. Four cars arrived with five policemen. They are NOT messing around. As it turned out, the guys WERE from Massey but the woman didn't know they didn't have the logo. Guess they will now get that logo on their truck pronto. :) Although it was a false alarm, the police said everyone did the right thing under the circumstances. So know that they want to get calls with any suspicious activity.



Sandra. I think it is entirely possible that the person who is doing this is working for a good and reputable business like Massey or name any other good and reputable business. I think they could be calling someone with the information of someone leaving together and with some knowledge of the neighborhood being pretty empty at the time. We have groups going to lunch together etc. I think it is someone who works in these neighborhoods or lives in these neighborhoods.


This morning The Sun published a report of some 30 year old guy who lives in Hemmingway arrested at Brownwood by the Wildwood police on another charge and when they searched his belongings they found a purse with several credit cards not his, a controlled substance and pot. He had been arrested before so he had a mug shot I found on the internet after reading that article.


WHY aren't they writing about these break ins?


article below.


http://www.lakemugshots.com/Mugshots...73f501224c86a0

shcisamax 12-28-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 802281)
Sandra. I think it is entirely possible that the person who is doing this is working for a good and reputable business like Massey or name any other good and reputable business. I think they could be calling someone with the information of someone leaving together and with some knowledge of the neighborhood being pretty empty at the time. We have groups going to lunch together etc. I think it is someone who works in these neighborhoods or lives in these neighborhoods.


This morning The Sun published a report of some 30 year old guy who lives in Hemmingway arrested at Brownwood by the Wildwood police on another charge and when they searched his belongings they found a purse with several credit cards not his, a controlled substance and pot. He had been arrested before so he had a mug shot I found on the internet after reading that article.




WHY aren't they writing about these break ins?



I hadn't considered that it was rot from within. Yikes.

tommy steam 12-28-2013 11:42 AM

That guy looks like he is high or drunk. Just a thought, can signs be put up saying it has a community watch program in place? I think it might be good to place them at the gates where you enter and than several more thru the neighborhoods. This alerts the criminals that we are watching and they might think twice before committing any criminal act.


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