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Travelhunter123 03-10-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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Awful, I would be heartbroken

Calisport 03-10-2022 10:28 AM

I passed by in my golf cart yesterday. A large cement brick construction that didn't look like it belonged there right near the waterlily bridge. Feel sorry for the neighbors.

Fastskiguy 03-10-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
What say you??

I say.....I'd love a big garage like that!

Joe

nevjudbaker 03-10-2022 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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I don’t see a problem. Especially if the highway is behind them. It blocks the noise partially for you. I don’t own a RV but I agree it would look better in a garage than on the street. It needs to match the home. To me these small Villas with three garages or 2 1/2 spread across the front with a little sidewalk leading to a front door peaking out on the side looks just as bad. Again better than cars & boats parked in driveway.

cj1040 03-10-2022 06:39 PM

Awful....

DaleDivine 03-10-2022 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2070829)
I say.....I'd love a big garage like that!

Joe

Me too...
:bigbow::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Dotneko 03-12-2022 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Miekies (Post 2070715)
Many of the most expensive Villages have an rv garage and they look beautiful once finished. Go drive around and see. The people that have these rv garages have large lots and it easily fits on the property. The vast majority of these RVs cost more than your home. Typically someone that pays build this type of garage for their RV cost $750,000 - 500,000. They are not motorless trailers building a garage for it. Completely absurd statement. I'm still relatively new here after selling our luxury high end RV to move here (we lived fulltime on ours for years traveling and exploring our great country in all the luxury creature comforts of a home) and drove around and saw beautiful high end Villages with RV garages and it did not lower the property value by any means. FYI the RV business is booming right now, just like the housing market

Who cares HOW much the RV cost? In the end, they are glorified buses. That monstrosity build must have been heartbreaking for the neighbors. I took a ride the other day in the golf cart. The nearby houses on the cul de sac are all occupied. I wonder if the guy to their right knew that this thing was going up well after the neighborhood was finished. Is there no notice to abutters when that went for permitting?
The RV should be parked off site imo.

Topspinmo 03-12-2022 06:23 PM

It’s there money let them spend it. Evidently there a need. At least the houses are not packed in like sardines. IMO that’s worst.

Topspinmo 03-12-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2070516)
an RV is a significant investment...if the owner didn't want to 'store it' in one of the many storage locations outside the Villages, then parking it in a garage, on their property, that is set back from the street, would seem like a better option than leaving it their driveway all the time

putting in a garage like that might make it far more challenging when one goes to sell the house, but, (tongue in cheek), maybe it could be converted into a bowling alley or an all weather enclosed shuffleboard or Bocce court


IMO the extra garage will sale faster.

Coopcasa 03-15-2022 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

What say you??Attachment 92922

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I found this on Next Door Neighbor-thought I’d post where the original OP could find. Well written and agree 100%.

Rebuttal:
Neighbors, beware, Angelscelebrate could inhabit a place near you! If you are building something she deems not “harmonious," you will be displayed to the community for judgment.

Angelscelebrate deceived this nice couple into letting her into their home. She misrepresented herself as an official to access this couple’s home to interview them! She was armed with a stack of papers that looked "official" that included neighborhood surveys, plans, and copies of permits. She took a picture from their lanai without their consent for publication. Her objective was to write her tirade and gather support under the auspices of keeping the community informed.

Angelscelebrate had no concern for this couple. She posted a picture of the project, taken from inside this couple’s home. Any novice sleuth would have figured out where the photograph was shot. Anglecelebrate has no regard for her actions. Her selfish acts could only bring anguish and consternation to this couple and divide a quiet and peaceful neighborhood. A neighborhood where residents take care of each other when ill and golf or play pickleball together. Angelscelbrate fails to inform you that the lovely couple was consulted before the builder filed for ARC approval and permits. They had no objects or concerns about the addition. What kind of human being does this?

When Angelscelebrate complained to The Villages, the City of Wildwood, and the County to no avail, she took to social media with her obtuse analysis of how this project was approved. She had copies of the ARC solicitation, designer and engineer plans filed with the TV, county, and city, copies of permits, and approvals from all (all are public records). Again, what kind of person goes through this tedious, time-consuming exercise that has absolutely no effect on them? Who anointed Angelscelebrate, the decor police, or the legal interpreter of The Villages’ restrictions or bylaws?

Angelscelebrate is upset because the ARC turned her down for a modification she requested on her property. She drives around looking for additions and alterations she can critique. She interviews and seeks support from neighbors and by-passers to promote her agenda. She does not live in this small section where the addition is constructed. It does not affect her views, space, or property value. We are all cognizant that our properties have increased exponentially.

Angelscelebrate, please find God and ask Him to heal you. My wife, I, and forgive you, as do our neighbors in this small area for the steady traffic of golf carts, walkers, cars, and bicyclists that have visited since your post. We all come here to live out our remaining years healthy and in peace. I pray you open your heart to God and find happiness in your life and enjoy this beautiful community that has so much to offer. Please do not concern yourself with what others are doing; let go of your officious ways, your anger, and hate, and take full advantage of our living heaven.

God bless.

Coopcasa 03-15-2022 09:30 PM

Indeed…your quiet neighborhood could be invaded by “Angelscelebrate” if you have an ongoing project in the middle of construction. Imagine how you might feel suddenly finding yourself, after following all the rules, on center stage for all to see and critique without asking to be there due to a TROLL. “AnglesCelebrate” failed because our neighborhood stands behind our neighbor.

JMintzer 03-16-2022 06:37 AM

The plot thickens...

Bilyclub 03-16-2022 09:15 AM

I thought the copied rebuttal from NextDoor shed some light on the OP's motivation. I thought the OP was the next door neighbor. If OP represented herself as a public official or an government worker, A report should be made to the Wildwood Police. When the rebuttal poster did a second post with their own editorial comments led me to believe they own the rv garage.

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Originally Posted by Coopcasa (Post 2072986)
Indeed…your quiet neighborhood could be invaded by “Angelscelebrate” if you have an ongoing project in the middle of construction. Imagine how you might feel suddenly finding yourself, after following all the rules, on center stage for all to see and critique without asking to be there due to a TROLL. “AnglesCelebrate” failed because our neighborhood stands behind our neighbor.


Stu from NYC 03-16-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2073194)
I thought the copied rebuttal from NextDoor shed some light on the OP's motivation. I thought the OP was the next door neighbor. When the rebuttal poster did a second post with their own editorial comments led me to believe they own the rv garage.

Wondering if she is one of the old ladies who ride around in a golf cart looking for people to turn in?

Mrprez 03-16-2022 01:18 PM

What say you? I say MYOB.

vintageogauge 03-16-2022 02:16 PM

I have always had motorhomes but last year I sold the last one that I'll own as I can't handle them anymore. However, I sure would like to have that garage, what a great place to store all kinds of stuff. They are not really common but there are many of them within TV. I would take that over being sandwiched in between two swimming pools that you have to see and listen to all day long and so much better than being within hearing distance of a pickle ball court. You can also have a nice home next door that an investor turned into a AirB&B. In my opinion the type of neighbors you have are much more important than they type of home they own, if you start out being miserable about a huge garage you will be miserable until either you leave or you die.

Blueblaze 03-16-2022 06:01 PM

I WANT ONE!

The worst thing about moving here was giving up my RV barn and shop for a 2.5 car garage with a 7' door you can't even get camper van through. My RV wound up baking in a lot until I finally gave up and sold it, and my table saw is still stored where I can't use it. I've never understood why the developer never thought of building hobby-garage/RV condo buildings near every village. I guarantee they'd get more use than the swimming pools.

If my neighbor built an RV garage, I wouldn't whine about deed restrictions, I'd demand one for myself!

I'm Popeye! 03-16-2022 06:32 PM

And they give you a stink about a little White Cross on your lawn.... :1rotfl:

wisbad1 03-16-2022 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2070377)
Not everyone may agree with your "humble opinion"! There are numerous RV garages, as well as house extensions, built in existing neighborhoods. There is no way to make a fair determination based on what the unfinished garage looks like! BTW, are you aware that it may be connected to the house with some kind of breezeway? Take a drive in Bridgeport Lake Miona Shores. There are several there and I see no problem -- other than perhaps some neighbors not being able to "keep up with the Jones"!

The lots are much bigger

angelscelebrate 03-16-2022 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopcasa (Post 2072972)
I found this on Next Door Neighbor-thought I’d post where the original OP could find. Well written and agree 100%.

Rebuttal:
Neighbors, beware, Angelscelebrate could inhabit a place near you! If you are building something she deems not “harmonious," you will be displayed to the community for judgment.

Angelscelebrate deceived this nice couple into letting her into their home. She misrepresented herself as an official to access this couple’s home to interview them! She was armed with a stack of papers that looked "official" that included neighborhood surveys, plans, and copies of permits. She took a picture from their lanai without their consent for publication. Her objective was to write her tirade and gather support under the auspices of keeping the community informed.

Angelscelebrate had no concern for this couple. She posted a picture of the project, taken from inside this couple’s home. Any novice sleuth would have figured out where the photograph was shot. Anglecelebrate has no regard for her actions. Her selfish acts could only bring anguish and consternation to this couple and divide a quiet and peaceful neighborhood. A neighborhood where residents take care of each other when ill and golf or play pickleball together. Angelscelbrate fails to inform you that the lovely couple was consulted before the builder filed for ARC approval and permits. They had no objects or concerns about the addition. What kind of human being does this?

When Angelscelebrate complained to The Villages, the City of Wildwood, and the County to no avail, she took to social media with her obtuse analysis of how this project was approved. She had copies of the ARC solicitation, designer and engineer plans filed with the TV, county, and city, copies of permits, and approvals from all (all are public records). Again, what kind of person goes through this tedious, time-consuming exercise that has absolutely no effect on them? Who anointed Angelscelebrate, the decor police, or the legal interpreter of The Villages’ restrictions or bylaws?

Angelscelebrate is upset because the ARC turned her down for a modification she requested on her property. She drives around looking for additions and alterations she can critique. She interviews and seeks support from neighbors and by-passers to promote her agenda. She does not live in this small section where the addition is constructed. It does not affect her views, space, or property value. We are all cognizant that our properties have increased exponentially.

Angelscelebrate, please find God and ask Him to heal you. My wife, I, and forgive you, as do our neighbors in this small area for the steady traffic of golf carts, walkers, cars, and bicyclists that have visited since your post. We all come here to live out our remaining years healthy and in peace. I pray you open your heart to God and find happiness in your life and enjoy this beautiful community that has so much to offer. Please do not concern yourself with what others are doing; let go of your officious ways, your anger, and hate, and take full advantage of our living heaven.

God bless.

The author of the rebuttal as well as you know nothing about me. They via you have spewed outright lies. You know nothing of the visit with the owners of the home. In no way did anyone falsely represent.

Love2Swim 03-17-2022 06:10 AM

A picture of a large concrete box obviously doesn't look too good. Once it is completed, painted to match, and nice landscaping is added along the side of the structure, it will blend in a lot better. As a homeowner or prospective buyer, it wouldn't bother me at all, but the OP is certainly entitled to their opinions about what is attractive or not.

Marathon Man 03-17-2022 06:26 AM

A few years ago, there was an addition of a large garage to a home in Tall Trees. A few of the neighbors were PO'ed and ranted on social media. Once the work was completed, everything quieted down. Constuction often looks bad.

Marathon Man 03-17-2022 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2073501)
The author of the rebuttal as well as you know nothing about me. They via you have spewed outright lies. You know nothing of the visit with the owners of the home. In no way did anyone falsely represent.

The rebuttal seemed believable to me. The original post seemed full of anger, and therefore, less believable.

JMintzer 03-17-2022 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2073556)
The rebuttal seemed believable to me. The original post seemed full of anger, and therefore, less believable.

Yup!

Bilyclub 03-17-2022 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2073501)
The author of the rebuttal as well as you know nothing about me. They via you have spewed outright lies. You know nothing of the visit with the owners of the home. In no way did anyone falsely represent.


Maybe write a good concise rebuttal to the rebuttal explaining your actions taken. Right now you're losing in the court of TOTY.

Coopcasa 03-17-2022 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2073501)
The author of the rebuttal as well as you know nothing about me. They via you have spewed outright lies. You know nothing of the visit with the owners of the home. In no way did anyone falsely represent.

Didn’t say I personally knew about your visit to a home in which you took pictures of a garage being built next door (other than what is now common knowledge in our once quiet neighborhood). So where did the Rebuttal information come from? Hmmm… I would suspect the owners of the home you visited telling the owners of the RV garage under construction what happened. Am sure both of those neighbors would appreciate an apology from you for invading their privacy.

Coopcasa 03-17-2022 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2073551)
A picture of a large concrete box obviously doesn't look too good. Once it is completed, painted to match, and nice landscaping is added along the side of the structure, it will blend in a lot better. As a homeowner or prospective buyer, it wouldn't bother me at all, but the OP is certainly entitled to their opinions about what is attractive or not.

I agree with you - had it just been an “opinion” - unfortunately, per the Rebuttal, it was far more.

Coopcasa 03-17-2022 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2073194)
I thought the copied rebuttal from NextDoor shed some light on the OP's motivation. I thought the OP was the next door neighbor. If OP represented herself as a public official or an government worker, A report should be made to the Wildwood Police. When the rebuttal poster did a second post with their own editorial comments led me to believe they own the rv garage.

Nope. Re-read. But agree - perhaps a report should go forward. Up to nice couple who lost their privacy to determine.

angelscelebrate 03-17-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopcasa (Post 2073618)
Didn’t say I personally knew about your visit to a home in which you took pictures of a garage being built next door (other than what is now common knowledge in our once quiet neighborhood). So where did the Rebuttal information come from? Hmmm… I would suspect the owners of the home you visited telling the owners of the RV garage under construction what happened. Am sure both of those neighbors would appreciate an apology from you for invading their privacy.

First off, you posted the "rebuttle" so regardless of who wrote it, you endorsed it and spread lies against angelscelebrate. The original author nor you knows what took place with the owners of the home that now has the RV garage as their fantastic view. I owe no one an apology. In fact, you owe angelscelebrate and ToTV one.

As a God fearing Christian you leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who do not believe with your judgmental condescending comments to try to bring angelscelebrate to God?!? Who are you to assume anything about angelscelebrate and God?

You have beared false witness against me with your post and you have violated ToTV rules as well. You, through them, have accused angelscelebrate of actual punishable crimes. One must wonder what libel per se is?? Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing, brother in Christ??

The homeowners to the right of the RV garage gave permission to take the photos from their porch after a lengthy conversation. Authentic introduction had been made and in no way was anyone presented as an "official" of anywhere. Permission was asked of and it was expressed to them that opinion of people on the matter was going to be sought. They were provided documents that are in the public domain that they viewed and gained knowledge from. What they chose to do with that knowledge was left up to them. They had an opinion of the situation that was NOT shared with the public by angelscelebrate. Based on the backlash you created do you think that ANYONE would be honest about their real feelings within Corder Run or anywhere near your cozy community?

If the world must know, to address that outside post's claim that angelescelebrate was just disgruntled about a turned down application for a modification to property the matter related to concrete sidewalk pour. TV said a concrete pour sidewalk would "alter the structure of the property". It was through a discussion with TV where by it was asked of them how could an RV garage be approved as not altering the structure and view of a property and a sidewalk pour be denied as it would change the view of the property. This question revealed just how the RV garage got approved and how the developer representative granted the approval without the TV Arc being involved, a right he has with certain criteria being met. The OP clearly states the criteria and leaves it up to others to decide for themselves if these criteria seem to be met.

Your taking it upon yourself to re-post a post that is outside of ToTV was what was distasteful and hateful!!

You have directly put those people in public view. You have put out there the "tight knit" community that your little Corder Run community shares amongst yourselves with zero regard for the rest of DeLuna or any potential buyers in TV that may not want this to happen to them. You go so far as to post a post that assumes angelscelebrate has no relation to the matter with no premise to do so.

Shame on you for posting lies without doing due diligence from all sides. Who made you judge and jury for all of TV from your little loop on Corder Run?

Do people deserve to hear opposing views to make knowledgeable decisions with regard to what they are purchasing and what can happen in TV? Someone posted that the OP sounded angry and thus seemed less believable. That is a sorry argument. The OP was as passionate as the shock that the building has had on passers by. Not only that I was attacked for pointing out anything that was possible unfair. You try to take a higher moral ground, virtue signaling and it is disgusting behavior to speak for an entire neighborhood as the neighborhood bully.

PugMom 03-17-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 2073235)
wondering if she is one of the old ladies who ride around in a golf cart looking for people to turn in?

you read my mind!!!!!!!!!!!

PugMom 03-17-2022 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 2073321)
What say you? I say MYOB.

agreed, or just move if it upsets the homeowner

Coopcasa 03-17-2022 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2073678)
First off, you posted the "rebuttle" so regardless of who wrote it, you endorsed it and spread lies against angelscelebrate. The original author nor you knows what took place with the owners of the home that now has the RV garage as their fantastic view. I owe no one an apology. In fact, you owe angelscelebrate and ToTV one.

As a God fearing Christian you leave a bad taste in the mouths of those who do not believe with your judgmental condescending comments to try to bring angelscelebrate to God?!? Who are you to assume anything about angelscelebrate and God?

You have beared false witness against me with your post and you have violated ToTV rules as well. You, through them, have accused angelscelebrate of actual punishable crimes. One must wonder what libel per se is?? Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing, brother in Christ??

The homeowners to the right of the RV garage gave permission to take the photos from their porch after a lengthy conversation. Authentic introduction had been made and in no way was anyone presented as an "official" of anywhere. Permission was asked of and it was expressed to them that opinion of people on the matter was going to be sought. They were provided documents that are in the public domain that they viewed and gained knowledge from. What they chose to do with that knowledge was left up to them. They had an opinion of the situation that was NOT shared with the public by angelscelebrate. Based on the backlash you created do you think that ANYONE would be honest about their real feelings within Corder Run or anywhere near your cozy community?

If the world must know, to address that outside post's claim that angelescelebrate was just disgruntled about a turned down application for a modification to property the matter related to concrete sidewalk pour. TV said a concrete pour sidewalk would "alter the structure of the property". It was through a discussion with TV where by it was asked of them how could an RV garage be approved as not altering the structure and view of a property and a sidewalk pour be denied as it would change the view of the property. This question revealed just how the RV garage got approved and how the developer representative granted the approval without the TV Arc being involved, a right he has with certain criteria being met. The OP clearly states the criteria and leaves it up to others to decide for themselves if these criteria seem to be met.

Your taking it upon yourself to re-post a post that is outside of ToTV was what was distasteful and hateful!!

You have directly put those people in public view. You have put out there the "tight knit" community that your little Corder Run community shares amongst yourselves with zero regard for the rest of DeLuna or any potential buyers in TV that may not want this to happen to them. You go so far as to post a post that assumes angelscelebrate has no relation to the matter with no premise to do so.

Shame on you for posting lies without doing due diligence from all sides. Who made you judge and jury for all of TV from your little loop on Corder Run?

Do people deserve to hear opposing views to make knowledgeable decisions with regard to what they are purchasing and what can happen in TV? Someone posted that the OP sounded angry and thus seemed less believable. That is a sorry argument. The OP was as passionate as the shock that the building has had on passers by. Not only that I was attacked for pointing out anything that was possible unfair. You try to take a higher moral ground, virtue signaling and it is disgusting behavior to speak for an entire neighborhood as the neighborhood bully.

From reading this meltdown rant…of wild accusations…to me, the homeowners rebuttal still stands strong.

PugMom 03-17-2022 11:33 AM

what we forum members think isn't all that important. the case needs to be made somewhere that can produce results that matter. everybody needs to calm down & re-think their strategy

JMintzer 03-17-2022 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopcasa (Post 2073705)
From reading this meltdown rant…of wild accusations…to me, the homeowners rebuttal still stands strong.

Yup. Methinks they doth protest too much..

And the constant referring to themself in the third person? OOOF!

JMintzer 03-17-2022 02:54 PM

My only advice to the OP?

Apply the "First Rule of Holes"...

When in a hole, STOP DIGGING!

SXLUNA 03-17-2022 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopcasa (Post 2073705)
From reading this meltdown rant…of wild accusations…to me, the homeowners rebuttal still stands strong.

Coopcasa you are absolutely correct!

I am the homeowner who is building the garage. On the day of Anglescelebrate's post, I was approached by my neighbor and his wife who advised of the writing. They were very upset and contrite. As of yet, I had not read the post. I related their story as written in my rebuttal. My neighbors, who I will not name, offered to write a letter in our support. I would never ask them to do anything of the sort. They are genuinely regretful of the attention and disruption this has caused. My wife and I, and neighbors don't feel they are responsible. They have been intruded upon enough.

Again, what Angelscelebrate fails to mention is that our neighbor's views faced our existing garage, our AC unit, our noisy pool equipment, and our birdcage. The neighbors landscaped their property and placed hedges for privacy, and to block the ugly mechanical equipment.

I'm cognizant that neighbors like to ride around and look at homes that are being modified. Unfortunately, we live in a cul-de-sac and our neighbor's dog and ours aren't used to the proliferation of traffic this post has created.

How one house in a village of several hundred will devaluate a home not even located in the immediate area of the construction site is purely fallacious.

In my humble opine, Angelscelebrate took advantage of my neighbors. I am not sure how Christ-like that is.

Let us not be divided by people like Angelscelebrate.

I ask we end this. As a poster said, "When in a hole, STOP digging"!!!

renrod 03-17-2022 07:31 PM

I drove by the house/new garage yesterday. The biggest problem I see is there is not enough room next to the original garage to get a motor home to the new garage WITHOUT driving on the neighbors property. I don't think there is even enough room to drive a regular car thru the area, without driving on the neighbors property. Maybe the new big garage is going to house classic cars, etc. There is a house in Bridgeport Miona Shores that has a 2 stall garage similar to the one referenced in this thread, which contains classic cars and some on lifts.

cj1040 03-17-2022 10:26 PM

CDC rules
 
This RV garage is hideous in light of the rules that are enforced everywhere else here. Thinking of the people who were given 30 days to rip out their nice brick edging around their landscaping because of a mix up when asking if approval was needed.
Maybe the whole neighborhood should sign a petition against this ugly eyesore.
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Originally Posted by angelscelebrate (Post 2070307)
Big happenings down by Water Lily Recreational Center.

If you happened to be going down Marsh Bend Trail yesterday you may have seen the building that has been erected next to two designer homes on Corder Run in District 12. If you are thinking about purchasing a new home in
The Villages, you may want to be aware that the Developer Representative can and did grant an approval for an RV garage prior to the development being turned over to The Villages. The ARC process takes place once The Villages takes control over the completed neighborhood (approximately one year later?) for any new applications for permit and claims no responsibility for the acts of the Developer Representative.

This is exactly what has happened to a kind couple that lives next door to a now RV garage. This garage in my humble opinion seems to fail on three key points that fall under the Developer's Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions Relating to: Villages of Southern Oaks Unit No. 30A.

2.4 "Harmonious with the development as to... design, size, and other qualities"; 2.5 "Developer shall grant its approval only in the event the proposed work (A) will benefit and enhance the entire Subdivision in a manner generally consistent with the plan of development thereof, and..." and 2.9 "Outside structure permanently attached to the Home" (granted the plans have some type of little wall planned to attach it later and a HUGE screened enclosure over covering all open area).

The Villages have seemingly washed their hands of what has happened here. It is nice little loop hole people have discovered at the expense of their future or current neighbors. Go to the Developer before YOUR neighborhood transfers to The Villages for approval to store an RV at your home.

Buyers Beware of this when you buy your designer home.

In my humble OPINION this is hardly harmonious, does not match the size, height of walls, design of the neighborhood and certainly does not enhance the neighborhood. It should be on radars of those purchasing.

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asianthree 03-18-2022 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 2073874)
This RV garage is hideous in light of the rules that are enforced everywhere else here. Thinking of the people who were given 30 days to rip out their nice brick edging around their landscaping because of a mix up when asking if approval was needed.
Maybe the whole neighborhood should sign a petition against this ugly eyesore.

You do know a petition would be a waste of time and ink? Maybe contact the clipboard ladies:boxing2: The garage has been approved.

Funny the ones who have a dog in this fight seem to be ok with the build. The only one who seems angry is the OP, who has not stated if the build is in direct view of their property, a drive by opinion, Or just angry they were turned down by ARC, for something.

Two story additions are becoming more common than one would think in a retirement community such as TV, given the fact that climbing stairs is in the mix.

Very known fact, if you build your house next to picturesque farm, tomorrow it could be a Lowe’s. If you buy a house that has property with more room to add on, you or your neighbor has the ability to do so with approval.

Marathon Man 03-18-2022 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj1040 (Post 2073874)
This RV garage is hideous in light of the rules that are enforced everywhere else here. Thinking of the people who were given 30 days to rip out their nice brick edging around their landscaping because of a mix up when asking if approval was needed.
Maybe the whole neighborhood should sign a petition against this ugly eyesore.

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