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marysackiss 07-12-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by brianherlihy (Post 1801478)
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

We tried & Villages said no so we put a shed in our lani & it is great. Call the Villages Deed Compliance, good luck.

Barborv 07-12-2020 09:19 AM

I know some sheds require a foundation. If youre thinking about a small Rubbermaid one, I can't see the problem, but would check before spending the money, especially if you have to put a foundation.

Remudaman 07-12-2020 09:20 AM

My suggestion is to get the true answer by calling the Villages offices and not rely on what others say. This is a technical issue you’re dealing with.

JCMSr 07-12-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by brianherlihy (Post 1801478)
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

The answer to your question depends on which district/village your courtyard villa is located. Each and every district has its own distinct set of deed restrictions so unless you provide your location everyone responding to you is guessing. I will state that in the majority of the districts free-standing sheds are prohibited. I happen to live in District 10 and the deed restrictions here are very clear:
Article V Section 8 states...."No outbuilding, tent, shack, garage, trailer, shed, utility building or temporary building of any kind shall be erected, except temporarily only for construction purposes." I think the answer in this case would be absolutely NOT!

The responses to your question by some others on this forum are all over the board from an absolute Yes to "deed restriction effectively will not matter unless someone complains". I certainly would not spend the time and effort to buy and install a shed only to be told that it must be removed. Do the smart thing and read your deed restrictions or call Community Standards if you do not have a copy. They will guide you through the process. Even if sheds are allowed on your particular property you must still submit an application to the Architectural Review Committee for approval. Be aware that your property has certain easements along the front, side and rear lot lines where you are not allowed to place any type of structure. Many of these areas are drainage and utility easements and installing a shed could possibly cause problems down the road for you are your neighbor. Abide by the deed restrictions and stay safe.

villagetinker 07-12-2020 12:10 PM

JCMSr, well said.

Toymeister 07-12-2020 04:36 PM

Common sense is a super power in 2020.

Yes effectively in this case where you can't see a shed deed restrictions do not matter

Is the SWAT team going to execute a search warrant because a drone picked up your below the fence shed, no.

So can you put up a below the fence shed at a CYV almost certainly without being 'caught', will it blow away, almost certainly no.

Let's discuss something that is less of a hot button but quite similar, garbage cans outside your house. Against the deed restrictions in most areas. I know of two in Pinellas. One has his cans next to his home where they are visible from the street. Another is my buddies, he has a landscape wall for a grill. He uses it for his garbage can. Because of the orientation of his home you can't see it. Is anyone going to lodge a complaint for it no.

Ss6247 07-14-2020 02:07 AM

In our district, we can have a shed, BUT it HAS to be attached to the house.

JCMSr 07-15-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 1802265)
Common sense is a super power in 2020.

Yes effectively in this case where you can't see a shed deed restrictions do not matter

This attitude towards deed restrictions is what gets many people in trouble. Deed restrictions are not just about paint colors, types of grass or yard ornaments. Quite often the restrictions are put in place to control access to easements or drainage issues. Many properties have limited space between homes with shared drainage swales. Even minor changes which change to flow of water can affect you and your neighbor.

Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.

Jayhawk 07-15-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JCMSr (Post 1803621)
Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.

Most responsible comment so far. Thank you.

Topspinmo 07-16-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JCMSr (Post 1803621)
This attitude towards deed restrictions is what gets many people in trouble. Deed restrictions are not just about paint colors, types of grass or yard ornaments. Quite often the restrictions are put in place to control access to easements or drainage issues. Many properties have limited space between homes with shared drainage swales. Even minor changes which change to flow of water can affect you and your neighbor.

Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.


CYVs have concrete walls separation in back and drain in backyards with easements off the wall. Very few properties after years are in Total compliance Due to several owners have induced something. IMO before any house is sold in deed restricted community a compliance inspect should be done so the new owners not stuck with out of compliance discrepancies previous owners have done.

JCMSr 07-16-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1804121)
CYVs have concrete walls separation in back and drain in backyards with easements off the wall. Very few properties after years are in Total compliance Due to several owners have induced something. IMO before any house is sold in deed restricted community a compliance inspect should be done so the new owners not stuck with out of compliance discrepancies previous owners have done.

I agree with your comments however who do you think should be responsible for the cost of this additional inspection (obviously it would not be free)? Buyers could make this a condition of the purchase agreement but if the Seller chooses not to accept such conditions the agreement would be void. Most agents actually are working for the Seller and are not obligated to promote such conditions on behalf of the Buyers. Buyers frequently purchase real estate without obtaining surveys and without conducting a professional property inspections. How many do you think would be willing to add an additional expense to their closing costs? Plus, who would be responsible for bringing the property into compliance if violations are reported?

I have seen many applications submitted to the ARC wherein the property owner states that the conditions were "existing when we bought the property". Unfortunately if it is a rules violation it does not matter when the work was done, who authorized it or how long it has been there.

Topspinmo 07-17-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JCMSr (Post 1804268)
I agree with your comments however who do you think should be responsible for the cost of this additional inspection (obviously it would not be free)? Buyers could make this a condition of the purchase agreement but if the Seller chooses not to accept such conditions the agreement would be void. Most agents actually are working for the Seller and are not obligated to promote such conditions on behalf of the Buyers. Buyers frequently purchase real estate without obtaining surveys and without conducting a professional property inspections. How many do you think would be willing to add an additional expense to their closing costs? Plus, who would be responsible for bringing the property into compliance if violations are reported?

I have seen many applications submitted to the ARC wherein the property owner states that the conditions were "existing when we bought the property". Unfortunately if it is a rules violation it does not matter when the work was done, who authorized it or how long it has been there.

Same people that approve or disapprove rule violations. They want rules Enforced then they need to insure when properties change hand no violation exist, not 2 months or 15 years after someone brought property and some one complains. All changes should be documented with application approval’s.

Kerry Azz 08-14-2020 10:54 AM

If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Stu from NYC 08-14-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1817372)
If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Until you get into an argument with a neighbor who turns you in.

Toymeister 08-14-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1817372)
If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Watch out with that superpower, common sense; someone is surely going to post about your 'bad additude'!!


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