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twynsmom 01-12-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 242909)
OMG. This was not a terrorist attack. Just some dude ran into a building. Its been reported. It sounds from the posts that people want the kind of coveage the TV stations do....over and over rehasing of the details.....which accomplishes nothing.
If you knew the guy was drunk,etc., will you sleep better at night?
Now folks want another paper, wasn't that tried by the Ocala paper? Or a section on TOTV just for news, sounds like a rumor starter.
So much chatter over nothing!

chilout
Inquiring minds want to know.

LELANDJANE 01-12-2010 08:48 AM

Bogie Shooter!
Thank you

jblum315 01-12-2010 08:49 AM

It was in today's (Tues) paper in the Local section police blotter

Larryandlinda 01-12-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 242904)
Well!!

I think that another paper written by someone else would take hold, even if it started as a weekly, HOWEVER, how would you get the information about something like this? I would think the law enforcement would have been called?

We have a plethora of journalists on this forum. We are doing a pretty good job getting the news out. I can't download pictures either. We need another little instruction, administrators.

I just found this email address for the managing editor for the sun(Couldn't find the title of Editor)...if anyone wants to tell him how they feel about this....

matthew.fry@thevillagesmedia.com

Yes GGG
(go girl go)
an alternative paper maybe with a little spice or hot sauce might take hold.
While TOTV's political and most other forums remain ( for the most part ) uncensored,
the newspaper format remains the most popular format for the residents and "this demographic" in general.

We agree that an independent area print voice might be of interest.

We and most residents like the Sun even itnis a day or two behind in "news"
even though it and WVLG are akin to "GRIT" if anyone was familiar with that publication!

Though we live in a rural Md unincorporated area when not in TV,
we do appreciate the content of alternative print and broadcast media and miss it here.

Let's roll! (the presses)
L&L

skip0358 01-12-2010 08:54 AM

Wow
 
I think the point being is people would like to know what's happening in their community. That's all.I'd like to know why so many gates and fences are coming down all of a sudden. Who took out the fence at the gates in front of Havana, why so many people hit the gate at Odell circle, why we need gate passes when MOST gates go up by themselves. I'd also like to know why we don't have RADAR traps on Morse & Buena Vista when they're on 466A. Come on people there is a speed limit slow down, what's your hurry. If a buisness is closed, are they leaving, did someone die, is there a mechanical problem. That's all. It's a local paper, I for one would like alittle more local news. We had hometown papers up North that did just that. Now don't tell me to move back up North it's not going to happen. This is jmo on the LOCAL paper.

jblum315 01-12-2010 08:59 AM

It was in today's (Tues) paper, Local section, police blotter

rshoffer 01-12-2010 09:05 AM

For one thing, it's a safety issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 242909)
OMG. This was not a terrorist attack. Just some dude ran into a building. Its been reported. It sounds from the posts that people want the kind of coveage the TV stations do....over and over rehasing of the details.....which accomplishes nothing.
If you knew the guy was drunk,etc., will you sleep better at night?
Now folks want another paper, wasn't that tried by the Ocala paper? Or a section on TOTV just for news, sounds like a rumor starter.
So much chatter over nothing!

As someone who commutes on a bicycle on the streets of The Villages I definitely would sleep better (or maybe worse) knowing more details of this accident. I suggest that those who wonder what all the fuss is about go down Buena Vista and look at the extent of the damages. I think the other issue here is what we readers have come to expect from our community newspaper based on our experiences BEFORE moving to The Villages. I am certain that had I taken out a road gate barrier, continued a few hundred feet, taken out a directional sign, large shrubs, and then traveled completely through a concrete block building in Danville, Pa., the Danville News or Bloomsburg Press Enterprise would have had a a photo of the damages as well as info about the driver and suspect cause of the accident. Thus, when something like this happens here in The Villages, I understand why people ask... "why wasn't it in the paper".

Bosoxfan 01-12-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 242917)
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I think the point being is people would like to know what's happening in their community. That's all.
I'd like to know why so many gates and fences are coming down all of a sudden. Who took out the fence at the gates in front of Havana, why so many people hit the gate at Odell circle, why we need gate passes when MOST gates go up by themselves. I'd also like to know why we don't have RADAR traps on Morse & Buena Vista when they're on 466A. Come on people there is a speed limit slow down, what's your hurry. If a buisness is closed, are they leaving, did someone die, is there a mechanical problem. That's all. It's a local paper, I for one would like alittle more local news. We had hometown papers up North that did just that. Now don't tell me to move back up North it's not going to happen. This is jmo on the LOCAL paper.

:agree::agree::agree:

graciegirl 01-12-2010 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 242909)
OMG. This was not a terrorist attack. Just some dude ran into a building. Its been reported. It sounds from the posts that people want the kind of coveage the TV stations do....over and over rehasing of the details.....which accomplishes nothing.
If you knew the guy was drunk,etc., will you sleep better at night?
Now folks want another paper, wasn't that tried by the Ocala paper? Or a section on TOTV just for news, sounds like a rumor starter.
So much chatter over nothing!

Bogie.

I don't get the paper up here and I don't think of it akin to a terrorist attack. However, since it took more than two days to report it, I wonder why.

If Muncle were here, he would probably point out that The Daily Sun is a paper with the purpose to sell houses. I have no problem with that.

When I see damage to a building, I wonder what happened to it, and mostly hope no one was hurt. I like to read what happened in the community where I live. I have no problem with the political editorials being Republican slanted. I have no problems with it being a "Good News" paper. I love to read the Sun.

I would like a little more information a little faster sometimes. That is all.

Bogie Shooter 01-12-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 242917)
I think the point being is people would like to know what's happening in their community. That's all.I'd like to know why so many gates and fences are coming down all of a sudden. Who took out the fence at the gates in front of Havana, why so many people hit the gate at Odell circle, why we need gate passes when MOST gates go up by themselves. I'd also like to know why we don't have RADAR traps on Morse & Buena Vista when they're on 466A. Come on people there is a speed limit slow down, what's your hurry. If a buisness is closed, are they leaving, did someone die, is there a mechanical problem. That's all. It's a local paper, I for one would like alittle more local news. We had hometown papers up North that did just that. Now don't tell me to move back up North it's not going to happen. This is jmo on the LOCAL paper.

Sumter county sheriff has conducted radar on Buena Vista just south of Palmer country club and probably will again.
The last time it was done there was an uproar right here on TOTV about speed traps in TV. What ever happens the minority will yap the loudest.

Bogie Shooter 01-12-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rshoffer (Post 242920)
As someone who commutes on a bicycle on the streets of The Villages I definitely would sleep better (or maybe worse) knowing more details of this accident. ".

Why??

Larryandlinda 01-12-2010 09:59 AM

Bikes and drivers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rshoffer (Post 242920)
As someone who commutes on a bicycle on the streets of The Villages I definitely would sleep better (or maybe worse) knowing more details of this accident. I suggest that those who wonder what all the fuss is about go down Buena Vista and look at the extent of the damages. I think the other issue here is what we readers have come to expect from our community newspaper based on our experiences BEFORE moving to The Villages. I am certain that had I taken out a road gate barrier, continued a few hundred feet, taken out a directional sign, large shrubs, and then traveled completely through a concrete block building in Danville, Pa., the Danville News or Bloomsburg Press Enterprise would have had a a photo of the damages as well as info about the driver and suspect cause of the accident. Thus, when something like this happens here in The Villages, I understand why people ask... "why wasn't it in the paper".

We are bike commuters in TV too and use major roads, cart lanes, and rec paths.
This is a cyclist's heaven and THE major reason we and many others moved
here.
To have the freedom to go anywhere a motor vehicle or car can go

While we are not golfers nor carters wenare grateful for the
lower impact to the roadspace and the environment carters enable.

And though we know that golf courses are one of the least sustainable uses for
the land, we appreciate
the views while awheel.

Like motoring, carting, biking.....even golfing or strolling.....
There is inherent danger and risk

We realize this every pedal stroke and we ride with certain cautions
and always stay clear of gates and away from the middle of the roundabout

We cyclists are more aware that most of discourteous, aggressive, and distracted motorists

we feel that instead of being scorned we should be appreciated
because of how little space we occupy and our low impact on the roads, yet we pay the same taxes

And while we do appreciate real
news, we agree with bogie shooter and wonder "WHY" a cyclist would sleep any better knowing the wwwww of the 'event'

and it was a mishap not a wild trend

we actually feel safer knowing there will be a bit more attention to the traffic

and we agree that we don't need the repetitive coverage

There are plenty of papers and on line sources full of any kind of news to feed the hunger

thanks to totv and the contributors

L&L

Pturner 01-12-2010 10:17 AM

I think I've lost my marbles. Just looked at the online version of the Daily Sun and did not see the article. Would someone kindly check to see if it's still there and send me the link to it. :Screen_of_Death:

Talk Host 01-12-2010 10:39 AM

Reading some of the posts in this thread, it appears that , with the exception of a "terrorist attack" in the Villages, some people don't want to know what's going on around them. Sad!

Whatever 01-12-2010 10:48 AM

Why were there no names, ages or company of the driver. I'm sure the police accident report has all of that info. Nobody knows anything other than it was a white p/u. Many questions, like who will pay for the rebuilding of the pump station. Will it come from the drivers insurance or will we the residents have to pay?

Bogie Shooter 01-12-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 242948)
Reading some of the posts in this thread, it appears that , with the exception of a "terrorist attack" in the Villages, some people don't want to know what's going on around them. Sad!

Isn't it more the depth of the knowledge that is in question?

rshoffer 01-12-2010 11:00 AM

I'm used to more "depth" in my community newspaper. Nuf said.

Talk Host 01-12-2010 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rshoffer (Post 242963)
I'm used to more "depth" in my community newspaper. Nuf said.

:agree:

paulandjean 01-12-2010 11:55 AM

who cares? sun will come up again wed. morning.. maybe the C. C. should stop selling booze.

Talk Host 01-12-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 242974)
who cares? sun will come up again wed. morning.. maybe the C. C. should stop selling booze.


I'm really curious. How could you not care?

tpop1 01-12-2010 12:11 PM

It's a new world...
 
IMHO....Let’s face it…Our generation are dinosaurs when it comes to news:icon_wink:….Newspapers as you and I remember them are dead. As the younger generation turns more and more to the internet for it’s news, newspapers and television news outlets cannot compete with the online time cycle.

Let’s face it.....The Daily Sun for the most part a good newspaper; covers national news well off of the wire services, & covers T.V. sports and activities very well. It gives the majority of people what they want and that’s why it sells so well and is such a viable newspaper is this internet day and age. It is, however, a “house organ” and the ownership takes pains to foster an atmosphere of no bad news here in T.V. You have to understand that and take it for what it’s worth.

Let’s face it..... we find out more about what’s happening here in T.V. here on T.O.T.V. than anywhere else. Unfortunately we have to work through the sometime biases and lack of journalistic rules followed by the writers here just like on most all Web Sites!!

As long as one understands these facts, one can sift thru the chafe and munch on the wheat.:a040:

graciegirl 01-12-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpop1 (Post 242980)
IMHO....Let’s face it…Our generation are dinosaurs when it comes to news:icon_wink:….Newspapers as you and I remember them are dead. As the younger generation turns more and more to the internet for it’s news, newspapers and television news outlets cannot compete with the online time cycle.

Let’s face it.....The Daily Sun for the most part a good newspaper; covers national news well off of the wire services, & covers T.V. sports and activities very well. It gives the majority of people what they want and that’s why it sells so well and is such a viable newspaper is this internet day and age. It is, however, a “house organ” and the ownership takes pains to foster an atmosphere of no bad news here in T.V. You have to understand that and take it for what it’s worth.

Let’s face it..... we find out more about what’s happening here in T.V. here on T.O.T.V. than anywhere else. Unfortunately we have to work through the sometime biases and lack of journalistic rules followed by the writers here just like on most all Web Sites!!

As long as one understands these facts, one can sift thru the chafe and munch on the wheat.:a040:

Veddy good. Munching.:icon_hungry:

Pturner 01-12-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 242909)
OMG. This was not a terrorist attack. Just some dude ran into a building. Its been reported. It sounds from the posts that people want the kind of coveage the TV stations do....over and over rehasing of the details.....which accomplishes nothing.
If you knew the guy was drunk,etc., will you sleep better at night?
Now folks want another paper, wasn't that tried by the Ocala paper? Or a section on TOTV just for news, sounds like a rumor starter.
So much chatter over nothing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 242974)
who cares? sun will come up again wed. morning.. maybe the C. C. should stop selling booze.

Gosh, there's a big difference between wanting an article in your community's newspaper to explain an event and wanting "the kind of coverage that the TV stations do...over and over, rehashing the details".

If the details weren't hashed the first time, how can they be "rehashed". :laugh:


Among other information, I care:
  • Whether anyone was hurt
  • What caused the accident
  • Whether any factor(s) may have contributed to the accident that might contribute to further accidents, and if so, whether anything is being done at that location (or others with similar issues) to reduce the risks
  • How/whether sewer service operations were affected
  • The extent of the property damage, who will pay for it and when to expect repairs
  • How or whether traffic might be affected during repairs
Also of interest, when did the accident happen? Who reported it? Who was involved? Was anyone charged? How is the driver now? Any passengers? (I expect at least this much was reported in the newspaper article, although I didn't see it. It wasn't included in the online version.)

Maybe C. C. should stop selling booze? Maybe booze had nothing to do with it. Hard to make any informed opinions about whether anything could be done to improve public safety, or any "lessons learned" could be had, without knowing any facts.

Yes, the sun will come up in the morning, but why is that relevant? It would come up in the morning even if none of us ever posted comments on any TOTV thread. It even came up the morning of 9-12-01.

downeaster 01-12-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpop1 (Post 242980)
IMHO....Let’s face it…Our generation are dinosaurs when it comes to news:icon_wink:….Newspapers as you and I remember them are dead. As the younger generation turns more and more to the internet for it’s news, newspapers and television news outlets cannot compete with the online time cycle.

Let’s face it.....The Daily Sun for the most part a good newspaper; covers national news well off of the wire services, & covers T.V. sports and activities very well. It gives the majority of people what they want and that’s why it sells so well and is such a viable newspaper is this internet day and age. It is, however, a “house organ” and the ownership takes pains to foster an atmosphere of no bad news here in T.V. You have to understand that and take it for what it’s worth.

Let’s face it..... we find out more about what’s happening here in T.V. here on T.O.T.V. than anywhere else. Unfortunately we have to work through the sometime biases and lack of journalistic rules followed by the writers here just like on most all Web Sites!!

As long as one understands these facts, one can sift thru the chafe and munch on the wheat.:a040:

I have been trying to come up with a thoughtful response on this thread but tpop1 has said exactly what I would have said only better.

Thanks, tpop1.

Bogie Shooter 01-12-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 243008)
Gosh, there's a big difference between wanting an article in your community's newspaper to explain an event and wanting "the kind of coverage that the TV stations do...over and over, rehashing the details".

If the details weren't hashed the first time, how can they be "rehashed". :laugh:



Among other information, I care:
  • Whether anyone was hurt
  • What caused the accident
  • Whether any factor(s) may have contributed to the accident that might contribute to further accidents, and if so, whether anything is being done at that location (or others with similar issues) to reduce the risks
  • How/whether sewer service operations were affected
  • The extent of the property damage, who will pay for it and when to expect repairs
  • How or whether traffic might be affected during repairs
Also of interest, when did the accident happen? Who reported it? Who was involved? Was anyone changed? How is the driver now? Any passengers? (I expect at least this much was reported in the newspaper article, although I didn't see it. It wasn't included in the online version.)

Maybe C. C. should stop selling booze? Maybe booze had nothing to do with it. Hard to make any informed opinions about whether anything could be done to improve public safety, or any "lessons learned" could be had, without knowing any facts.

Yes, the sun will come up in the morning, but why is that relative? It would come up in the morning even if none of us ever posted comments on any TOTV thread. It even came up the morning of 9-12-01.

Wow!

Talk Host 01-12-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 243013)
Wow!

I agree Bogie, that was a very powerful and meaningful post.

skip0358 01-12-2010 07:55 PM

Here's a thought
 
They said it was a white pick up and the gate attendant knew nothing about it. What color are the COMMUNITY WATCH TRUCKS??? WHO WOULD RAT ON THEIR OWN??? :crap2: WOW what a rumor:crap2:.

graciegirl 01-12-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 243008)
Gosh, there's a big difference between wanting an article in your community's newspaper to explain an event and wanting "the kind of coverage that the TV stations do...over and over, rehashing the details".

If the details weren't hashed the first time, how can they be "rehashed". :laugh:



Among other information, I care:
  • Whether anyone was hurt
  • What caused the accident
  • Whether any factor(s) may have contributed to the accident that might contribute to further accidents, and if so, whether anything is being done at that location (or others with similar issues) to reduce the risks
  • How/whether sewer service operations were affected
  • The extent of the property damage, who will pay for it and when to expect repairs
  • How or whether traffic might be affected during repairs
Also of interest, when did the accident happen? Who reported it? Who was involved? Was anyone changed? How is the driver now? Any passengers? (I expect at least this much was reported in the newspaper article, although I didn't see it. It wasn't included in the online version.)

Maybe C. C. should stop selling booze? Maybe booze had nothing to do with it. Hard to make any informed opinions about whether anything could be done to improve public safety, or any "lessons learned" could be had, without knowing any facts.

Yes, the sun will come up in the morning, but why is that relative? It would come up in the morning even if none of us ever posted comments on any TOTV thread. It even came up the morning of 9-12-01.

You go girl. What a post! Good evaluation and great format. What a journalist you are!

golfnut 01-12-2010 08:26 PM

double wow...gn

Bosoxfan 01-12-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 242948)
Reading some of the posts in this thread, it appears that , with the exception of a "terrorist attack" in the Villages, some people don't want to know what's going on around them. Sad!

You hit the nail in the head TH..Why is it some villagers don't want to know!!
I'm so confused:confused:News is news be it good ,bad,joyful,or sad and isn't the Sun a "news paper" for the villagers.

golfnut 01-12-2010 10:50 PM

the daily sun is what it is, you're not going to change it, if you don't like it don't buy it, not sure why they are taking the brunt of some dimwit that plowed through a pump house....gn

saratogaman 01-12-2010 10:51 PM

It is not a newspaper...it is a house organ for you know who.
If you really want a real newspaper...for news outside of our cocoon...you can get home delivery (before sunrise!) of the Orlando Sentinel -- one of the highly regarded Tribune newspaper chain. Go to this website: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

Bosoxfan 01-12-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 243125)
the daily sun is what it is, you're not going to change it, if you don't like it don't buy it, not sure why they are taking the brunt of some dimwit that plowed through a pump house....gn

OK gn if not the Sun than where does someone living in the villages get the stories about things like that "dimwit"? Your word not mine

golfnut 01-12-2010 10:55 PM

saratoga, highly regarded by whom???

golfnut 01-12-2010 10:57 PM

bosox, i'm guessing the highly regarded orlando sentinal, what page did they run it on??...gn

Bosoxfan 01-12-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 243129)
i guess the orlando sentinal, what page did they run it on??...gn

The Orlando Sentinel..Why would they have info on a traffic incident in the villages? Forget it ..I'm done...:sad:

zcaveman 01-12-2010 11:11 PM

Give them a break!!!
 
The Daily Sun is a lot like my local paper up north. If you were to get in trouble, the best time to do it was in Friday or Saturday night. No reporters worked those days so you would not make the paper.

Seems the same way down here.

I do not think it is a conspiracy or a leaving out the news. It is the timing.

I am not sure why so many of you are against the Daily Sun. They are doing a much better job or reporting local news that a few years ago.

Give them a break!!!

Z

golfnut 01-12-2010 11:13 PM

bsox, you were the one that asked where else someone could get information, sorry i was just trying to help, i'm done.....gn

paulandjean 01-13-2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 242979)
I'm really curious. How could you not care?

tell me "why should I care" I do not know who the people are, what is the cause,drinking or texting invovled. again why should I care. it is a car accident.thats all

Talk Host 01-13-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 243195)
tell me "why should I care" I do not know who the people are, what is the cause,drinking or texting invovled. again why should I care. it is a car accident.thats all

As citizens of any community, we have a social responsibility to care about what goes on around us.

Would you care if it was in your front yard? Would you care if you knew the people? Would you care if there was a crime on your street? Would you care if a sexual predator moved in across the street from you? Would you care if the accident resulted in damage that would increase your taxes?

If not you (us) who's responsibility is it to care what goes on in our community? I think one of the problems we face as a nation is that many or our citizens "don't care." It's your right to care. IF you give up that right, you don't deserve any of your rights.

I'm sorry, your lack of caring about your fellow citizens defies my comprehension.


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