That is true.


"Why not stop sign cameras too! Where will it end, or is this just the beginning?

Soon big brother will be watching everything we do. "

Sure! If someone is breaking a law, I have no issue with "Big Brother" going after them. My $.02

Don

Just yesterday I saw a golf cart in front of me come to a stop at the red traffic light, and then go through it as though the red signal didn't apply to him in his golf cart.

I must have looked silly with my mouth open.

The police officer is wrong. A yellow light means to use caution and be prepared to stop because the light is about to turn red. You shouldn't stop unless you can do so safely.

I know that you'll think that this is an exaggeration but why stop there? Why not let the police search your car or house whenever they want, after all, if your not breaking the law then what is the harm?

I'm all for homeowners and business's using cameras for surveillance purposes on private property but the government is something else. It would soon be out of control.

could have been busy on cell phone or texting:doh:

Me thinks that you should get a copy of the United States Constitution and read it. Learn the difference between rights and privileges. Funny thing, they are spelled out in the Constitution, rights that is, not privileges. Besides the courts have established that there is no privilege to expect privacy on a public road, but there is a right to privacy in your home. It's in the constitution.

Was that when the police officer was giving you a ticket for running a red light?

Bingo you struck pay dirt. The fact is that red light camera are not bad in themselves but perhaps their application. There is a huge monetary incentive for both the red camera producers and law enforcement. Such monetary incentives per se invite conflicts of interests and since law enforcement is a public entityand hence has the affect of damaging trust.

Most people who run red lights do so because of inattentivness. Is it perhaps better to police those drivers who commit overt acts of inattentiveness? for instance i was entering a park lot when a woman on a bicylcle rode right in front of me because she was texting on her phone.

The two poster that witnessed this accident both said the violator was inattentive and not deliberately running the light. so while officials can pander to the public about how red lights keep them safe the monetary amount is just too tempting. and so instead of working to eliminate the major cause (inattentiveness) law enforcement sits back and deals with it after the fact costing the public more in terms of accidents, challenges etc.

finally red camera lights have a tendency to have people over react creating a prime scenario for chain reactions

so back to the beginning of my post the yellow caution light means proceed with caution or allowing a time to clear the intersection.

You can't win any argument when it starts out with "for the safety of the public" despite the fact that one has a logical response and its why public officials use it. My hope is that those officials remain ethical and moral because i not they have a license to stealand an opportunity to video every aspect of your life so that the Truman show would no longer be fiction.

Just an aside in syracuse's Tipperary Hill the stop light is unique because in honor of the Irish the green light sit atop the light and the red light at its bottom. At that light sits Coleman's Pub with a entrance of a green door with Tiffany Glass and right next to that door an exact copy but smaller for the lippercauns to enter.

May the sun shine on your face and the wind be at your back

I don't think that is what 2B meant.

All we have to do is remember that black car that was on CNN, FOX, etc. yesterday. It was hit by a taxi, continued on to hit a light post on the other side of the intersection, then rolled over. It was only by the Grace of God that the streets weren't full of other vehicles.

That was quite dramatic, but I see people drive here very recklessly as well. I just wish there were more police cars around to get those people off the streets or at least ticket them!

Exactly what rights are you giving up when cameras are installed at intersections? You don't have the right to drive a car. That is a privilege granted by the state. You don't have a right to privacy as you are in a public place. So I'm curious to know what rights are being taken away by these cameras.

What scientific study do you refer to when you say that most red light running is due to inattentiveness? I don't know of any such studies, and believe (opinion only) that most red light running is done by impatient drivers who see a light changing and speed up to "make the light". Many/most times it changes before they get through the intersection. Cameras on problem lights would be a great thing, in my opinion. And I'm unaware of any "rights" that would be violated, other than the right to do as I please.

And quit bitchin'. Well said Rip.

Yes, for now. You of all people should know that the constitution can be opened to interpretation as with the 2nd amendment.

Besides, I'm not talking about rights or privileges, I'm talking about giving the government a powerful tool that they will eventually lose control of. Hackers will soon know more about us then ever.

why don't we see if we can outlaw cars. They kill more people than guns.

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