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Talk Host 12-04-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiogolf (Post 236567)
In the population of bicyclists, just like the population of golf cart drivers and motor vehicle drivers, there are those who flaunt the laws as well as common sense. We have threads on this site about golf cart riders going the wrong way and letting their pre-school grandkids drive the carts, and threads about car drivers violating all common sense rules in the circles. The bike clubs in TV stress safety to their members. Each ride starts with a comment and "heads up" on safety on the road. Each monthly club meeting includes a presentation on safety and road rules. Bikers have every right to ride on the road as long as they abide by the vehicular laws as stated previously. I ride with the clubs and ride alone and am one of those "fancied dressed riders". I try to observe all safety rules and get really mad when I see riders violate the rules because I know that it upsets vehicle operators. Please don't punish me for those idiots. TV is a wonderful environment for all forms of exercise including bicycling.


Do bike clubs stop at stop signs or do they go through them as a group? The law says they must stop at all stop signs. I'm thinking they don't.

Patt 12-04-2009 09:19 AM

Rules of the road in TV
 
The blogs on cars vs. golf carts right-of-way are informative and hope it helps many who are relocating here or spend just a wee bit of time like we have done thus far.
Now here's another problem - ROUND-ABOUTS:
We have 2 lanes in our round-abouts. When wanting to turn right at the 1st street is no problem, but drivers find it difficult to cross over if they are in the inside lane and want to exit at the 2nd or 3rd street. Which lane should we be traveling in? Are there actual guidelines for these lanes?

ohiogolf 12-04-2009 09:19 AM

Do all cars stop at stop signs? I recall you posting a funny video of cars going through stop signs with the road runner music playing. Do all golf carts observe stop signs? come visit my neighborhood and stand at the stop sign and count the ones that do not. Again, there are bikers that flaunt the rules of the road just like there are car driver and cart drivers that do. No excuse for any of them.

ajbrown 12-04-2009 09:52 AM

Some roll stops worse than others
 
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Originally Posted by ohiogolf (Post 236581)
Do all cars stop at stop signs? I recall you posting a funny video of cars going through stop signs with the road runner music playing. Do all golf carts observe stop signs? come visit my neighborhood and stand at the stop sign and count the ones that do not. Again, there are bikers that flaunt the rules of the road just like there are car driver and cart drivers that do. No excuse for any of them.

The closest I came to an accident in my 3 years was a driver coming out of the tunnel on Morse, near the first tee of Havana Kilimanjaro. I was going south on Morse, headed to Colony Cottage. As I was almost down the hill, tunnel on my right, out comes a cart, quick look right, quick look left and go, rolling stop at 2-3 MPH. I have no idea how I missed them or the far tunnel wall, but ended up in the tunnel without a scratch to anyone. They said sorry and left, I learned to drive a lot more defensively.

I agree folks roll stop (all mode of transport) in lots of places, but in a tunnel? There is simply not enough time to look both ways and process the info coming out of a tunnel.

katezbox 12-04-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Avista (Post 236568)
What is it about people walking or jogging in the golf cart path when there is a sidewalk right there. Very Dangerous!

I walk 4 -5 miles daily and use portions of the cart path as I walk. The sidewalks in TV (or at least the parts near us) change from one side of the road to the other frequently - necessitating crossing busy streets to remain on the sidewalk.

I prefer the golf cart (multi-modal) paths that are wide with room to accommodate pedestrians as well as carts. That said - I always follow the rules (walkers on the left) and keep my head up to be sure I am not in harm's way (or your way).

Bogie Shooter 12-04-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Patt (Post 236578)
The blogs on cars vs. golf carts right-of-way are informative and hope it helps many who are relocating here or spend just a wee bit of time like we have done thus far.
Now here's another problem - ROUND-ABOUTS:
We have 2 lanes in our round-abouts. When wanting to turn right at the 1st street is no problem, but drivers find it difficult to cross over if they are in the inside lane and want to exit at the 2nd or 3rd street. Which lane should we be traveling in? Are there actual guidelines for these lanes?

Here is how.
http://www.districtgov.org/images/Wh...INAL070908.pdf

Talk Host 12-04-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ohiogolf (Post 236581)
Do all cars stop at stop signs? I recall you posting a funny video of cars going through stop signs with the road runner music playing. Do all golf carts observe stop signs? come visit my neighborhood and stand at the stop sign and count the ones that do not. Again, there are bikers that flaunt the rules of the road just like there are car driver and cart drivers that do. No excuse for any of them.

I agree with you 100%. However, cars and carts actually do, in many cases, at least slow down to maybe a crawl before they crash the stop sign.
My observation is that many bicycle groups "speed" through the stop controlled intersections as they play "follow the leader."

My rub is that when somebody pontificates about how safety conscious they are and that they follow the rules and that they have safety meetings, then they go out and blast through a stop sign like it wasn't there. On Arlington Loop in Chatham, the speed limit is 15 miles per hour. Every week, large groups of bicyclists round the loop well over that speed. They lean into blind curves as if they somehow magically know that nobody is coming the other direction. My wife, our neighbors and I have all had to "JUMP" out of their way to save our respective necks.

So, how "bout them Mets?

kofficer 12-04-2009 02:17 PM

Golf Carts
 
We were visiting the Villages over the TG weekend, and if we hadn't stopped for the golf carts on many occasions, our car probably would have been in a collision with one. The golf carts seemed to act like they had the right of way, not the vehicle traffic.

Lee from Tampa

Indy-Guy 12-17-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 189395)
Please tell your guest that they are not being polite when they stop and let golf carts cross the street. Let them know that when they stop to let carts cross they are messing up the traffic flow. Also the people behind them may not stop they hit them and knock them into the golf cart not a good thing.

The indecision takes longer by trying to figure out what people are going to do than a smooth traffic flow of people just doing what they are supposed to do.

Again please tell your guest as they drive in The Villages not to wave carts to cross in front of them. It may seem like the nice thing to do but it isn't.

I thought I would bring back this old thread just as a reminder. Today this happened to me several times. Please tell your guests that they are slowing down the flow of traffic even when they are being friendly.

Barefoot 12-17-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 316112)
I thought I would bring back this old thread just as a reminder. Today this happened to me several times. Please tell your guests that they are slowing down the flow of traffic even when they are being friendly.

Based on years of observation, I'd say that the majority of golf cart drivers (and also car drivers), think that cars have to stop and wait for golf carts to pass. Therefore it might be dangerous to instruct car drivers that they have the right away, since golf cart drivers are in very fragile vehicles.

Bottom line .. Tis the Season to be cautious.

Bogie Shooter 12-17-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 316133)
Based on years of observation, I'd say that the majority of golf cart drivers (and also car drivers), think that cars have to stop and wait for golf carts to pass. Therefore it might be dangerous to instruct car drivers that they have the right away, since golf cart drivers are in very fragile vehicles.

Bottom line .. Tis the Season to be cautious.

They have to be taught!
Probably not the majority.

Indy-Guy 12-17-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 316133)
Based on years of observation, I'd say that the majority of golf cart drivers (and also car drivers), think that cars have to stop and wait for golf carts to pass. Therefore it might be dangerous to instruct car drivers that they have the right away, since golf cart drivers are in very fragile vehicles.

Bottom line .. Tis the Season to be cautious.

Sounds like another reason not to pull out in front of a 60+ year old person who has their foot on the brake and trust it will stay there in stead of sliping onto the gas pedal or the person behind them not stopping and running them into me. I would rather pull out after there are no cars around. I guess I am just not a trusting person when it comes to my golf cart vs their car.

Barefoot 12-18-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 316150)
I would rather pull out after there are no cars around. I guess I am just not a trusting person when it comes to my golf cart vs their car.

Indy, I agree.

villager99 12-18-2010 09:59 AM

many gate crossings have signs reminding golf cart drivers that cars have the right away and carts must yield

getdul981 12-18-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by villager99 (Post 316282)
many gate crossings have signs reminding golf cart drivers that cars have the right away and carts must yield

But obviously no one reads signs.

Tweety Bird 12-18-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 189439)
Actually its funny you bring this up !!! I just had Plexiglas installed in the floorboards of my car so that I can look down and see if I recognize who I just ran over........
Is this how reality shows got started ?????

I have HD fumar ....:evil6:

Forget the plexiglass. I think it's better to not know. lol

Barefoot 12-18-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 189439)
Actually its funny you bring this up !!! I just had Plexiglas installed in the floorboards of my car so that I can look down and see if I recognize who I just ran over........
Is this how reality shows got started ?????
I have HD fumar ....:evil6:

:024:. How does he think this stuff up? Fumar's mind is an awesome place.

adcina 05-09-2011 12:48 PM

golf cart right of way ....
 
maybe instead of worrying about speeding along .... NEW residents AND some that have been here since the area was a cow field might consider taking the golf cart course that is offered regularly .... I've seen golf cart drivers FAIL to merge - and the road is highlighted to do so .... i.e., on Odell near Mallery Sq .... and Stillwater down by Morse .... the course doesn't take long ... it SHOULD be a requirement for ANYBODY that buys a golf cart ...... how about crosswalks ????? EVERYBODY should be stopping to let pedestrians cross ... what's the rush ????? Is getting to the destination about 3 minutes earlier REALLY worth the hazzard and discourteous approach?

BigLew 05-12-2011 10:57 AM

while we are at it.......
 
to be Villages 'legal' the carts must be equipped with turn signals yet nobody seems to be using them....and no I cannot, in daylight, see those tiny yellow turn signals in the front of your cart so if you are going to turn in front of me please use a hand signal ! :swear:

memason 05-12-2011 11:13 AM

I'm glad this thread keeps popping up every 3 or so months. It reminds me that no one has been killed and the sky isn't falling.

I think it's time for a little :popcorn:

Bill-n-Brillo 05-12-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 353533)
I'm glad this thread keeps popping up every 3 or so months. It reminds me that no one has been killed and the sky isn't falling.

I think it's time for a little :popcorn:

Pass 'er on down here! :popcorn:

Didja have a bit of a skirmish with your golf cart, Mike? (your new avatar.....)

Bill :wave:

skyguy79 05-12-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 353533)
the sky isn't falling.

Phew! Well I'm certainly glad to hear that! http://th167.photobucket.com/albums/...t-misc-164.gif

memason 05-12-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 353553)
Pass 'er on down here! :popcorn:

Didja have a bit of a skirmish with your golf cart, Mike? (your new avatar.....)

Bill :wave:

Avatar ----> Just my 24 hour contribution to golf cart safety awareness week... Did you forget ????

Bill-n-Brillo 05-12-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 353593)
Avatar ----> Just my 24 hour contribution to golf cart safety awareness week... Did you forget ????

Uhhhhh......I can't remember if I forgot.

Bill :)

Pturner 05-12-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 353533)
the sky isn't falling.

If true, that would be the news flash of the century... in the political thread. :22yikes:

It might even break some hearts. :024:

jebartle 05-12-2011 06:44 PM

Omg
 
You guys are a hooooot!

We have got to get all of you on a road show, maybe a sitcom...

Between Popcorn Brillo and "plexiglas floor" THE Great Fumar, I'm going to have to make a run to the store for a load of depends!:loco::loco:


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