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dbussone 07-29-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1429881)
I harken again to my experience as a deputy sheriff, and recall a case where two men who had been stopped for a traffic offense, overpowered and severely beat a FHP Trooper.



They beat him so severely that he was unrecognizable to people who knew him. After beating him they dragged him to the shoulder of the road and drove off.



When the Trooper originally stopped the car he radioed in the license tag number. Accordingly, we had the address of the owner of the car. We, deputy sheriffs, apprehended the two men at the home of the owner. One man surrendered. The other fought and was shot in the leg. He continued to fight until overpowered by several deputies.



At trial, the Judge mitigated the charges and the sentence of the men citing the fact that they had dragged the Trooper to the shoulder of the road, out of the traffic lane of the highway.



So, you see, the fact that this cart driver dragged the injured lady into the flower bed might be cited by a defense attorney as an evidence of concern for her well being. He might also argue that his client, being impaired by alcohol, was not aware of how severely she was injured.



We live in a strange world.



Strange and pathetic at times.


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dbussone 07-29-2017 05:38 PM

Cart death
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1429877)
This does not appear to be the entire list, only those in Florida Health System??? Is it complete??? There are five levels with five probably being the more typical Emergency Room Setting with specialists not immediately available.

Usually, if a Trauma Center is needed, one would need special transporting. And before the moddies tell us to stay on topic...I SHOULD start a new thread.

There is a REASON that there aren't new Trauma Centers Opening . Those in business don't want to share business. Read this;

Four new trauma centers open in Florida, ending years of fights - Commentaries - Health - Health WMFE - Local News - 90.7 WMFE

Apparently, Governor Scott who was in The Health Care business would like to see the laws changed and a more "free market" approach allowed on this. I hope this doesn't get political.



GG - nationally, the College of Surgeons recognizes 4 levels. Since this a non-regulatory body it is up to the individual states to define their own systems.

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I know there are level 3 trauma hospitals in FL, but it may be that only Levels 1&2 receive financial support from the State. Most hospitals prefer to receive blunt trauma cases (auto accidents) rather than penetrating trauma (knife & gun club members). The former tend to have insurance, the latter usually do not. This may be the reason why a financial support system was introduced by the State. This just my opinion and best guess. P.S., I've been on both sides of this discussion.

I've run a couple of Level 1 trauma centers. Many community hospitals will try to transfer knife and gun club victims to avoid the financial burden those patients can become. But that is a story for another thread.

And now back to GE for the physician side of this discussion. [emoji41]

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graciegirl 07-29-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1429909)
GG - nationally, the College of Surgeons recognizes 4 levels. Since this a non-regulatory body it is up to the individual states to define their own systems.

https://www.facs.org/~/media/files/q...tallevels.ashx

I know there are level 3 trauma hospitals in FL, but it may be that only Levels 1&2 receive financial support from the State. Most hospitals prefer to receive blunt trauma cases (auto accidents) rather than penetrating trauma (knife & gun club members). The former tend to have insurance, the latter usually do not. This may be the reason why a financial support system was introduced by the State. This just my opinion and best guess.

I've run a couple of Level 1 trauma centers. Many community hospitals will try to transfer knife and gun club victims to avoid the financial burden those patients can become. But that is a story for another thread.


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I can see that there is a lot more to it than just waving a magic wand or passing a law. There usually are back stories that are involving political decisions and not too hidden agendas. Sometimes for good reasons. People and businesses and hospitals do have a right to get paid for their services. It may be why regular hospital services are so inflated in price, the need to cover all the free gun shot medical help?

Thank you for any information you can share. This is all quite interesting. I am probably in trouble for hi-jacking a thread. I should start another thread.

dbussone 07-29-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1429913)
I can see that there is a lot more to it than just waving a magic wand or passing a law. There usually are back stories that are involving political decisions and not too hidden agendas. Sometimes for good reasons. People and businesses and hospitals do have a right to get paid for their services. It may be why regular hospital services are so inflated in price, the need to cover all the free gun shot medical help?

Thank you for any information you can share. This is all quite interesting. I am probably in trouble for hi-jacking a thread. I should start another thread.



Then I am in trouble also since I responded to your post.

"Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant"


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