Bugs, just because people are unhappy with being disrespected and being left in the dark on an issue that is very important, it certainly doesn't mean they are going to pack up and move. I love where I live and hope, God willing, that I am here until I die. I don't plan on moving anywhere and I haven't heard any of my friends or neighbors say that are moving or hate the place they love and call home because of this.

I just left her a message on her answering machine about 30 minutes ago. The third message in two days. I haven't heard from her. She hasn't returned a call. I know she must be busy and tired of people calling her.

I don't know the answer to these questions and to this problem but I think it will be sooner solved by those who keep a cool head and an open mind like many of you who have acted as leaders and as calming agents.

Njbchbum, Dr. Winston Boogie, bkcunningham, Artic Fox and many more who live there and who this more directly affects have been helpful and involved to find out just why this happened and what if anything can be done to remedy it. You have been good leaders.

The rest of us look up to you.

DING DING DING!! winner winner chicken dinner.

Here is the other part IMO ..... "The Developer" really does not give a @&*# about people being mad about this because they will still be selling 200+ new homes per month south of 466A. Until The Great Buildout .... at which point they will have even less reason to care.

This generation(s) of "The Developer" might have inherited some biz skills (although at this point the place is pretty much on autopilot) ... they are badly badly lacking in compassion.

Thinking about the long term effects of a decision to allow a paved path from outling communities into The Villages with their golf carts forever... might not hurt either. Maybe the developer is trying to save many of us from ourselves.

There is hard work at hand to open that "hole in the wall". If it is reopened, the big winners are Stonecrest, Spruce Creek and the developed areas beyond. It's not that difficult to have the county open up the back streets to allow access to "The Path". The home values in those subdivisions would profit nicely while The Villages would definitely lose value.

Remember the premium you paid when you bought in The Villages for the Lifestyle? Now many bordering communities have access to the same things we have and don't have to pay the piper. They also are private and much quieter with bigger lots for a lot less money.

If that gate is reopened and the path is paved into The Villages, I would advise anyone considering buying in The Villages to look at these surrounding communities. They would have a gated, private neighborhood with pools, golf and activity centers to enjoy and there is no longer anything special about The Villages. Anyone can use their cart paths.

There is a lot more to think about here, the long term ramifications are HUGE. You can't unring a bell.

Most likely some new lawsuit or more likely a money grab (someone wants payment for the carts that cross their property) and we won't pay.

What would your answer be? I'll bet anything that my answer ends up the correct one. It's not just because Morse wants to that's for sure. Something precipitated the action.

Doesn't in any way change the fact that I'm out of a job. Or that a wall is up. Who cares about the manner. Doesn't change the outcome in any way.

Another example which may have some relevance: If I won a huge lottery and wanted to quit my job I would never give notice. The problem? Liability. The fact that I now have deep pockets would give some people a thought to sue me over something that they never would have before. As a nurse we do things on a daily basis that COULD put us at risk. Not the kindest thing to do to my employer but I'd have to watch out for liability. I'll bet that is what is happening here - something might have had to happen quick and sudden to avoid further risk of liability.

Thanks. Oh well.

Thank you, Gracie. I have racked my brain trying to understand and make sense of this. That is where my frustration comes from. Just not understanding and not knowing the answers to why. My husband and I are blessed. We don't depend solely on a golf cart for transportation. Going to the businesses by cart was a pleasure and a novelty, not a necessity. I do personally know people who don't have cars.

Ironically, two of my friends don't own cars because they come from The Bronx and New York City and never had need of a car. Myself and another woman help one of the women when the need arises that she has to go somewhere outside TV for doctor's appointments and whatnot. The other woman rents a car and has friends she rides with to recreational/social activities outside the bubble.

I have another friend whose grown daughter is handicapped but proudly works at Walmart. She was able to drive herself in a golf cart to and from work and was proud of her independence. I now know of Dr. Boogie's wife's situation and feel badly for them both.

I know other people who don't have cars and thankfully, wonderfully and unbelievable; they've all managed with the help of friends throughout the years to survive. We'll all survive this if the wall isn't removed. It won't be the worst thing to happen to these wonderful people I've gotten to know and grown to love over the past four years we've proudly been owners of a house in TV.

I have always been impressed and proud to explain how things operated in TV. I've studied the history and been amazed at how the free market system has worked for this family and how the vision and hardwork of a few has benefited and changed the lives of so many.

I think that is why this is so...hurtful...I don't know if that is the right word. Disappointing may be a better word. But it does sting. I know there are people who it impacts a lot worse than my circle of friends. But I'll tell you this. I know the character and the caliber of the people here and I don't think they will let anyone who needs a ride walk nor anyone who needs to eat go hungry.

The management of the new assisted living facility has stated on this site as not knowing anything about this. They could be lying through their teeth (imo, highly unlikely) but if so ..... why wouldn't The Developer throw them under the bus?

"Mr. Brown" not only sold the land to the assisted living facility with the written understanding that golf carts could continue to utilize the access .... he allowed a temp trail through his property during construction of the facility. Of course it is not beyond the realms of possibility that "Mr. Brown" tricked everyone and now wants a pound of flesh (even more unlikely), but that leads us back to who gets thrown under the bus.

AGAIN .... if any of your reason(s) where true ..... then why not launch a preemptive strike on bad PR and tell / warn everyone up front????

Please give me one just one good reason to handle this in the manner that it has been!

My reason(s) are stated above.

Anyone can use all the cart paths today, even with the new wall. You can cross 441/27 with a LSV and use the cart paths. Or you can go rent a golf cart for a small fee and run around all day long. Don't even need to be a senior. The number of carts that come from Stonecrest or Spruce Creek South is really small in number. The majority of this inconvenience is on the shoulders of those that live in the Historic Section and the Spanish Springs area.

Three days into this sad situation and still no official word concerning the wall. We don't know why it installed, assume it will be there for good. Don't see a resolution any time soon.

where can an lsv cross other than up at spruce creek south? and you surely don't mean that anything other than street legals can cross, do you?

New People
 

For you new people. This is still a great community but has some serious warts that must be removed. Hopefully all residence will remember this at election time as the ballot box is always the democratic way to get rid of these rascals. I was going to go into more discussion but it is probably useless and only voting the varmits out will fix these kind of problems. How many "elected" officials from the State Reps. down to the CDD members have you seen at the wall demanding action? You don't have to take your shoes off as you can probably count them on 1/2 a hand. Of course the POA President was there but you would not expect less from the POA..:bowdown:

I think that if it does come to a court case a decent lawyer would be able to get an injunction keeping the path open until the case is settled, seeing as how it has been open for 20 years.