Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 723358)

gracie - here's the link to the carting in the villages map: Carting The Villages -Home

slide the map over until you see the golf cart bridge over 441; now imagine coming over the bridge and making a left onto paradise dr.; follow along the green route to the blue thingie just past the tacks for the paradise rec center on the right and softball fields on the left; the blue thingie is the path where the wal has been erected blocking continued travel on to the shopping centers for rt 441 lowe's, walmart, cracker barrel, sonic, etc. hope ya know where you are new! ;)

and no - as of today one cannot cross 441 in any area of the villages - unless and until the county gives permission to do so. only 441 crossing is up the road aways - in summerfield, i think.

Originally Posted by DougB (Post 723887)

I think this is a terrible thing to do. I wish I had an answer. "They" shut down your restaurant, "they" shut down your tiki bar, and now "they" shut down your path to convenient shopping and job sites. What's next, the golf cart bridge?

Originally Posted by memason (Post 723892)

I'm sure this is very disappointing for the folks that depend upon that route to shop, etc.

However, the route you have been taking to Lowes, Walmart and Aldi's has been going across private property; not Villages property and certainly not a cart path. In other words, you have been trespassing all this time. The property owners have graciously allowed you to drive across their property. Seems to me, they have reconsidered and closed access.

For sure, this closure does not impact me and I understand that something similar could happen where I live. But, I relocated when I moved to TV and I can relocate again, if need be.

I'm not unsympathetic, but this is just business and nothing personal....

Originally Posted by OldManTime (Post 724044)

I hear there is a resident meeting monday morning at the Spanish Springs Town Square, in front of the radio station.....

Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 724048)

Not sure it's worth the effort, but perhaps if enough emails go into the Editor of the Daily Sun they will cover this...wouldn't hurt....

Dailysun@thevillagesmedia.com

AT&T: Editor

Originally Posted by VICAR OF DIBLEY (Post 724006)

"Default Golf path closing

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Looks like those that want to continue using the portion of the path that is cut off will need to purchase a street legal golf cart. The fine for crossing without using a street legal cart is $250. Also the section between Walmart and Aldi's will remain open and be improved the last I heard. Seems silly to inconvenience 70K people just to keep 1000 Stonecrest residence from coming into the Villages via this opening. "

I believe a street legal golf cart can not go on any road where the speed limit is above 35 MPH.

Even if that was true you are assuming that people can afford them. I do not know how many villagers in the Historic side, or the other side can.

It is very easy for someone who has the convenience of a car(s), to tell others how to resolve their problems. From what I have read, it doesn't appear that other than one villager, has any one made an offer to assist those who do not have a car - no matter what the reason.

Are we the "Friendly Villagers" who help each other out?

Originally Posted by DougB (Post 724051)

We don't have any retired attorney here who wants to take on the task of finding out why this wall was built and what, if anything, can be done?

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724059)

Everyone's support is appreciated. We are really all in this together; regardless of what side of the highways you live on. When the access is blocked to businesses-not only the businesses along 441 which are not part of TV's commercial properties, but when access to businesses in The Villages is blocked off by the wall for travel by cart of residents of other developments-it will hurt all of us in the long run.

I appreciate the money that businesses in TV get from residents of the other developments. It keeps our storefronts occupied and keeps the prices of our homes up. It keeps the prices of our good and services down.

You know thy business owners don't care where you live, or even if you live in TV when their rent is due and the have payrolls to be met. I'd imagine they will notice the lack of patronage during these slower summer months because of the stupid wall.

Originally Posted by gocubsgo (Post 724008)

Street legal carts aren't going to help. You can't drive them on 441/27

Originally Posted by ttown (Post 724070)

We pay full amenity fees. It had to do with free garbage pickup and storage facilities as I remember...maybe free play on the two executive course on this side. There are few of us still getting those benefits. They ended in 1989 and were attached to the original owner only. My point was that we can bring about change with effort.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724072)

Everyone has always paid amenities fees. It was how the amenities fees were being used. Here: The Villages, FL - Class Action Settlement Notice - www.thevillagesfl.us

http://www.ccfj.net/CDDVillages$40milllawsuit.html

But to the point of the thread. My understanding from talking to a representative of the HOA is that the HOA and the POA are both involved. He asked me to give them a couple of days to sort through things before I circulate petitions throughout the area asking for signatures of residents asking that the wall be taken down.

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 724050)

i'd contact the leesburg daily commercial - more likely to get coverage from an outside interest!

Daily Commercial
212 E. Main St.
Leesburg, FL 34748

Frequently called numbers:
MAIN NUMBER 352-365-8200
FAX 352-365-1951

News Desk
352-365-8208

news@dailycommercial.com

Sandy Lenoir, The Villages/Sumter 352.365.8248 sandylenoir@dailycommercial.com

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724072)

Everyone has always paid amenities fees. It was how the amenities fees were being used. Here: The Villages, FL - Class Action Settlement Notice - www.thevillagesfl.us

http://www.ccfj.net/CDDVillages$40milllawsuit.html

But to the point of the thread. My understanding from talking to a representative of the HOA is that the HOA and the POA are both involved. He asked me to give them a couple of days to sort through things before I circulate petitions throughout the area asking for signatures of residents asking that the wall be taken down.

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 724077)

if things rise to the level of a petition, please give consideration to how we snowbirds who are not in our villages nest at this time can participate.

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 724083)

What is the HOA?

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 724083)

What is the HOA?

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724087)

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 724081)

It might be time to call our friend Lauren Ritchie at the Orlando Sentinel and see if we can get her up here to do an indepth investigation.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724084)

I have thought about that too, njbchbum. I would ask you to write a short note which would include your name, address, phone number a a statement if you'd like, and send it to media email. You can do it through a PM here if you'd like which goes to my email. I would certainly include your information with a petition if it gets to that point. Thank you my dear.

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 724084)

I have thought about that too, njbchbum. I would ask you to write a short note which would include your name, address, phone number a a statement if you'd like, and send it to media email. You can do it through a PM here if you'd like which goes to my email. I would certainly include your information with a petition if it gets to that point. Thank you my dear.

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 724091)

Why not set up an online petition:
iPetitions: Start a free online petition / Create a petition

Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 724068)

You can cross 441/27 there at the Hospital with a street legal Golf Cart. The Florida Law allows you to cross any highway as long as the intersecting road speed limit is posted at 35 MPH or lower. Or any other location you can get too.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 724106)

You also must have a driver's license in order to operate a street legal LSV on the roads. One problem here is many people in the area that for one reason or another do not have a license.

Originally Posted by memason (Post 723892)

I'm sure this is very disappointing for the folks that depend upon that route to shop, etc.

However, the route you have been taking to Lowes, Walmart and Aldi's has been going across private property; not Villages property and certainly not a cart path. In other words, you have been trespassing all this time. The property owners have graciously allowed you to drive across their property. Seems to me, they have reconsidered and closed access.

I'm not unsympathetic, but this is just business and nothing personal....

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 723874)

None of this yet is ascertained as fact. It is all conjecture. But I see how a lot of people feel about other issues. I understand your surprise and frustration but what can now be done to make this a little easier?

None of us know FOR SURE why the path is closed but it is. Dr. Boogie, perhaps you will now drive your wife back and forth to work? Maybe car pools can be arranged. Maybe someone can drive others for a small fee? Redwitch, is there any other way, other than that path, any cut throughs beyond and behind? Perhaps when non drivers need to go to Lowes they can post on your neighborhood email? Also the same for visits to doctors? What percentage of people in those three villages do most think don't drive. Perhaps some church could make it an outreach project? With a few members of a church transporting people to and from maybe twice a week? Perhaps we TOTV'rs could arrange some kind of volunteer car transportation? Remember just that ONE area has been closed, those three older villages still have golf cart access to the rest of the entire villages property.