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justjim 08-17-2013 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 727993)
What's not to see? They are both 55+ developments within a short distance of one another. Some people buy in the Villages some people buy in Stonecrest. If the buy in Stonecrest, they don't buy inThe Villages and vice versa. How are they not competitors.
Stonecrest sells maybe 30-35 new houses a year (my conservative guess) and TV sells 2,500 new houses a year (my guess) and they are competitors? In addition, all the other amenities we have in TV.

JeffAVEWS 08-17-2013 01:56 PM
Valid point,they could lose that phrase in their advertizing and not much would change. I would guess that when TV is pitching their commercial properties to would be merchants that they include Stonecrest in the population figures.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-17-2013 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EdV (Post 727787)
The resolution to vacate was simply a process by which the town examined the proposed plan to convert the land into a golf cart thoroughfare and to establish the fact that the town had no intended use for that lot for supporting town utilities or other such usage.

Ownership of the lot did not change hands as a result of the approval of the resolution back in 1998. As of this writing it is still owned by Gary Morse’s company. And if the VHA’s proposal is accepted by Morse, ownership will passed over to the VCCDD which is totally controlled by guess who, why mister Gary Morse. But at that point, any liability issues would be the responsibility of the VCCDD which is funded by amenity revenue.

And as for the permit requested by Murray Construction, my guess is that they were the company that was assigned by Morse to take down the wall and they attempted to file for the permit as a formality in the process.
Are you sure that it's being deeded to the VCCDD and not the VCDD? Janet Tutt is in charge of the VCDD and the VHA represents all homeowners in the Villages.

rhood 08-17-2013 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 727946)
I believe that you are referring to the Shay Gate. That is accessed by automobile only and there is a guard there 24 hours a day.
I think he is referring to the passage way off Tarrson near the post office. No guard, no gate.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-17-2013 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 728007)
Stonecrest sells maybe 30-35 new houses a year (my conservative guess) and TV sells 2,500 new houses a year (my guess) and they are competitors? In addition, all the other amenities we have in TV.
I don't know about Stonecrest, but the Villages sales department sells over 4,000 homes a year.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-17-2013 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rhood (Post 728017)
I think he is referring to the passage way off Tarrson near the post office. No guard, no gate.
True but you can't get to that gate by golf cart from outside the Villages property unless you drive down 27/441 or come through the Paradise gate.

shcisamax 08-17-2013 02:48 PM
Honestly, I am thrilled to see the public take action when things are done so suspiciously and without regard for those that are affected.

The public in general has become so lethargic and beaten down that as upset we all are with our congress, no one does anything. if only we could get 1 million Americans to march on the White House and ask our "representatives" to actually be representatives and vote themselves the same rights and responsibilities as the rest of us instead of making them the ultimate of special interest groups. If 1 million Muslims can do it, why can't we?

So all of you who took action, bravo! I commend you.

janmcn 08-17-2013 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 727998)
The Stonecrest website advertises access to the Villages, BY GOLF CART for those buying and living in Stonecrest. They obviously think that this is a great selling point. Why woudld the Villages want to help Stonecrest sell homes when those people might buy homes in the Villages?

Stonecrest has been selling houses ever since I've lived in TV, since 2000, almost 13 years. Why would TV all of sudden be concerned about Stonecrest's advertising, especially since TV is selling homes 20 miles away? This just doesn't make sense.

Duvalboomer 08-17-2013 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 728059)
Honestly, I am thrilled to see the public take action when things are done so suspiciously and without regard for those that are affected.

The public in general has become so lethargic and beaten down that as upset we all are with our congress, no one does anything. if only we could get 1 million Americans to march on the White House and ask our "representatives" to actually be representatives and vote themselves the same rights and responsibilities as the rest of us instead of making them the ultimate of special interest groups. If 1 million Muslims can do it, why can't we?

So all of you who took action, bravo! I commend you.
Sounds like you should lead the march, someone needs has to or it won't happen.

Boudicca 08-17-2013 03:05 PM
I think the instigators of the wall's creation understimated, or had no knowledge, of the power the Internet offers these days. I see as many "seniors" using their smart phones, as I did "kids" prior to moving to TV, and we seniors are more technically savvy than younger folks give us credit for. When this thread started, it was visited by a a virtual tidal wave of responses, which are now in the seventy thousands. i hope the "powers that be" recognized that we DO pay attention, and can mobilize. 70,000 plus, is a goodly number of Villages residents, if we lump the visitors to TOTV into that group. Even if they are not residents, people pass along such interesting stories as this one. "America's Friendliest Home Town", took a hit, IMHO.

ttown 08-17-2013 03:22 PM
Very good point.
I didn't drive on anyone's grass, or spray paint, but I did send E Mails to anyone I could think of. And phone calls. And posts here.
I feel we were underestimated....hope it never happens again.
Just a little respect.

JeffAVEWS 08-17-2013 04:28 PM
In 1999, I visited a church square in the center of Christchurch, NZ. While I was there, a young man appeared and, besides his normal clothing, he was also wearing a stovepipe hat, tuxedo jacket with tails, and he was carrying a soapbox. He placed the box on the ground and stood on it and gave a speech. I don’t remember what it was about, but I do remember him and I remember thinking “what a neat way of airing his grievance", (or something similar). This would not work today. So this blog is my cyber soapbox. I am not sorry if I offended anyone by using this venue, and, I’m not sorry that I spoke up. As my mother use to say, “You made your bed, now you sleep in it,” I asked you, who made this bed?

rp001 08-17-2013 06:14 PM
yea right
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 728013)
Are you sure that it's being deeded to the VCCDD and not the VCDD? Janet Tutt is in charge of the VCDD and the VHA represents all homeowners in the Villages.

Couldn't disagree more...They ONLY represent the developer and his needs

Bogie Shooter 08-17-2013 06:19 PM
And the bashing continues..................................

graciegirl 08-17-2013 06:21 PM
Unfortunately...I am happy here and think the Morses have had a good plan.
 
I have been reading this forum for six years and the same people over and over and over have the same level of bitterness against the developer.

When a mistake like this happens, they nearly jump for joy to pile on.

To me it is ugly. It takes down the whole community, does no good, and just throws dirt back into the faces of those who are ALWAYS negative.

If I felt the way that some did, about the way things are run, I would put my home up for sale, sell it in a couple of weeks, pocket the money and be on my way.


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