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Topspinmo 03-18-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312676)
So what?

Maybe those who bought near the turnpike didn't anticipate heavier traffic
Maybe those who bought near a pickleball court didn't anticipate the growing popularity of the sport.
Maybe those whose homes back up to Morse Blvd between the 6's didn't anticipate the huge increase in traffic including trucks due to development south of 44.

There are 2 houses , one on either side of that cut through. The owner claims 54,000 carts pass through there each month. Should they close the path and inconvenience the 54,000 because 1 or 2 are affected?????. Maybe they should close down Florida's turnpike since many more are affected. (And ban pickleball while they're at it).

And ban golf due to golf cart traffic :wave:

Topspinmo 03-18-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312610)
I highly doubt anybody "speeds" through that path between houses, which is what the homeowner was complaining about. As far as "speeding" on Kingston Way goes, how fast are the cars going????


Speed is such subjective event. Especially when one doesn’t have radar gun. :oops:

golfing eagles 03-18-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2312678)
And ban golf due to golf cart traffic :wave:

Nobody drives their cart on those paths anymore, it's too crowded :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 03-18-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2312680)
Speed is should subjective event. Especially when one doesn’t have radar gun. :oops:

Kingston Way is a residential street---the speed limit for BOTH cars and carts is 20 mph. (But apparently not for bicycles, but they ignore all traffic laws anyway). In reality, however, I rarely see a car that is not going over 20, as well as any carts capable of exceeding 20 as well.

Topspinmo 03-18-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2312492)
I just looked at the “cut through” on google maps. The road is literally called “Cart Rd”.

Whoa, whoa, Now ALL golf cart paths/roads are MMPs which allows walkers to blunder along two and three abreast ignoring Florida’s road/street walking rules.

Road:

“The basic premise behind road-naming conventions, which are fairly consistent around the world, is that the name bestowed upon a road depends upon its size and function. A road, for example, is a path that connects two points.Feb”

Cliff Fr 03-18-2024 09:36 AM

That complaint reminds of people who move here from other states and complain about what they can get back home but not here, lol.

dtennent 03-18-2024 09:43 AM

Maybe those who bought near the turnpike didn't anticipate heavier traffic
Maybe those who bought near a pickleball court didn't anticipate the growing popularity of the sport.
Maybe those whose homes back up to Morse Blvd between the 6's didn't anticipate the huge increase in traffic including trucks due to development south of 44.

There are 2 houses , one on either side of that cut through. The owner claims 54,000 carts pass through there each month. Should they close the path and inconvenience the 54,000 because 1 or 2 are affected?????. Maybe they should close down Florida's turnpike since many more are affected. (And ban pickleball while they're at it).[/QUOTE]
54000/month? Let’s see assume 30 days/ month, 12 hours of daylight, you get 150 carts per hour or 2-3 carts per minute. Having taken that path many times, I don’t recall ever seeing that rate of traffic. Sound like a sampling was taken at the highest traffic during the day and extrapolated out to a monthly traffic.

Of course, if all of the carts were electric, maybe he wouldn’t mind it so much!

Bilyclub 03-18-2024 09:56 AM

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He bought in 2015 and it's just bothering him now ? Paid less than than the person he bought it from.

golfing eagles 03-18-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2312707)
He bought in 2015 and it's just bothering him now ? Paid less than than the person he bought it from.

And probably the number of carts has not significantly changed since 2015---All the development since then has been south of 44 and people living there don't travel north of 466 by golf cart in droves.

Laker14 03-18-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312539)
Then don't buy there. His complaint has no validity whatsoever.

Also, I have to wonder if he paid less for his home than equivalent homes 1/2 a block away.
That would be like buying generic green beans and then complaining they are not as good as Green Giant

Agree.
One reason for a cut-through like that is to make it easier for the neighbors in that area to get access to the BV MMP, especially going south. So for some, and for the complaining neighbor, it's a convenience. However, while he likes the convenience for HIS use, he doesn't like others using it.

I have a friend who lives near the cut-through on Yemassee, to the Morse MMP, in Largo. While it's wonderfully convenient for him, it adds to the through traffic of carts, all day long. When I was shopping for my home, I put that on my list of things to avoid.

Joe C. 03-18-2024 11:30 AM

Just another cry baby whining about something insignificant.
It's just a cart path ....... at least it's not a sewer treatment facility.

golfing eagles 03-18-2024 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2312766)
Just another cry baby whining about something insignificant.
It's just a cart path ....... at least it's not a sewer treatment facility.

Or a nuclear power plant

Perhaps the whiner is a charter member of the NIMBY club :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

wamley 03-18-2024 12:11 PM

The Village app sends you around the parking Loy of all the offices that are at Laurel manor and guides you to a small opening that goes off the MM path where you drive through what should be a cul de sac and takes you up into Palm golf course and out onto the MM. to go south

djbabler 03-18-2024 12:16 PM

The problem here is we are not talking about a cart (MMP) path. This is a neighborhood street with no MMP lane. The entrance and exit are nothing more than a way for that neighborhood to enter and exit the Buena Vista MMP. By cutting through this neiborhood on their streets you can save a minute or two max and avoid a couple tunnels. As time goes more and more people discover this short cut thus more and more traffic on their neighborhood street. These people DO NOT live on a cart path. They did not buy a house on a cart path. I use this route alot but may reconsider saving a minute and stay on MMP in the future.

golfing eagles 03-18-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by djbabler (Post 2312778)
The problem here is we are not talking about a cart (MMP) path. This is a neighborhood street with no MMP lane. The entrance and exit are nothing more than a way for that neighborhood to enter and exit the Buena Vista MMP. By cutting through this neiborhood on their streets you can save a minute or two max and avoid a couple tunnels. As time goes more and more people discover this short cut thus more and more traffic on their neighborhood street. These people DO NOT live on a cart path. They did not buy a house on a cart path. I use this route alot but may reconsider saving a minute and stay on MMP in the future.

It is a path that only golf carts, bikes and pedestrians can use. It was there when the house was built, it was there when the current owner bought in 2015, IT IS A CART PATH. They bought a house ON A CART PATH. What did they think---this is nice, our own private short cut to BV North MMP? Not every road, in fact very few have a separate cart lane, which why the speed limit is 20 in neighborhoods. And it is NOT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET. Until and unless the "neighborhood" purchases the street from Sumter County and pays to maintain it, it is a PUBLIC street with a PUBLIC ROW between those 2 houses. PERIOD. So, OK, close it off, and then all the other residents in THEIR neighborhood will have to go south to Winthrop Terrace and guess what?---cut between the two homes there to get to the MMP just past Palmer Cherry Hill #1. I don't know any other way for those residents to get to the BV MMP north. And, BTW, another poster was correct--Google Maps labels it "Cart Rd." But you are correct about one thing----now that this whiner has made a big deal about it, many more people will know about and use this route.


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