Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1980450)

Let's hope maybe the CDC corrects the numbers?

The data coming out of Isreal is that the Vax protects against severe disease and hospitalization at high levels still, clearly due to a T-cell response. Against infection and symptoms it's much less effective and it seems to be a function of time. I.E. Those who got the Vax in January are much more likely to have a breakthrough case and the odds of not getting it improve the more recent you got Vaxx. Clearly this is the result of circulating antibodies fading over time. Breakthrough however is something like 60%, rather than the original 10% for the earliest Vaxxed.

The great news is the mortality is way down.

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/report...week-27-EN.pdf

Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1980375)

Keep telling yourselves the vaccine is safe. You'll be too late.

Originally Posted by Guitarman1951 (Post 1980513)

My brother, who is fully vaccinated, got the Delta variant and ended up in the hospital with severe dehydration. He is back out now but it was a tough go in what he described like a severe flu but even worse. The Dr did say his vaccination saved his life by not letting it get into his lungs. He is still struggling to get back to normal but getting there. So yes, you can get the Delta variant even if vaccinated but it's full effect will be limited. This further demonstrates the need for masks once again and, perhaps, some penalties to unvaccinated people to entice them to get vaccinated. They are spreading it and threatening everyone.

Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1980396)

Fact: The P C R test is not effective. It cannot decipher flu from the China virus.

Fact: The vaccine does not work.

Originally Posted by Rsener (Post 1980560)

You really need help

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1980458)

Since the cdc and government are a pack of liars and the information is so contradictory, how can anyone put any faith in anything they say? Line up for your 10th booster please!

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1980422)

The CDC is not in charge of this country and certainly not in charge of my life. There will be no mask ever for me and hopefully other Americans that are tired of government trying to control us.

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 1980567)

No peeps who believe an non approved shot is safe need help

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1980422)

The CDC is not in charge of this country and certainly not in charge of my life. There will be no mask ever for me and hopefully other Americans that are tired of government trying to control us.

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1980450)

Let's hope maybe the CDC corrects the numbers?

The data coming out of Isreal is that the Vax protects against severe disease and hospitalization at high levels still, clearly due to a T-cell response. Against infection and symptoms it's much less effective and it seems to be a function of time. I.E. Those who got the Vax in January are much more likely to have a breakthrough case and the odds of not getting it improve the more recent you got Vaxx. Clearly this is the result of circulating antibodies fading over time. Breakthrough however is something like 60%, rather than the original 10% for the earliest Vaxxed.

The great news is the mortality is way down.

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/report...week-27-EN.pdf

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1980458)

Since the cdc and government are a pack of liars and the information is so contradictory, how can anyone put any faith in anything they say? Line up for your 10th booster please!

Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1980394)

Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Townhall Tipsheet Rebecca Downs
Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Rebecca DownsRebecca Downs|Posted: Jul 28, 2021 9:30 PM

Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Source: AP Photo/Susan Walsh


On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced a new mask guideline for students, teachers, and staff in K-12 to wear masks regardless of vaccination status, as well as in certain indoor settings, again, also regardless of vaccination status. The move was met with swift criticism, especially and including from former President Donald Trump. Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), though, takes issue with the data used to justify the new guidelines.




The excerpt Rep. Crenshaw references comes from Andrew Joseph's article published by STAT, "CDC Again Recommends Indoor Masking, Even for Some Vaccinated People."

The excerpt in question reads:

An administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told STAT that health experts do not have studies proving that fully vaccinated people are transmitting the virus. Rather, the official said, the updated guidance is based on studies showing that vaccinated people who contract the Delta variant have similarly high levels of virus in their airways, which suggested that they may be infectious to others. With other variants, vaccinated people had substantially lower levels of virus in their noses and throats compared to unvaccinated people.
Remember when * said that if vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask?