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Timothyimitchell 07-30-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KRMACK55 (Post 1980662)
Thank you !

You're welcome. This IS the science.

Bonnevie 07-30-2021 11:09 AM

just returned from routine dr. appt. I discussed with him my sadness that covid is on the rise again and my anger at those who won't get vaccinated and/or wear a mask. He said he understood, seemed dismayed as well, and said many will pay a price for that.

rjm1cc 07-30-2021 11:14 AM

The data supporting all announcements by all levels of government should be released at the time of the announcement to provide confidence in the announcements.

Velvet 07-30-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1980396)
Fact: The P C R test is not effective. It cannot decipher flu from the China virus.

Fact: The vaccine does not work.

You are just being funny, aren’t you? LOL

Byte1 07-30-2021 11:27 AM

I'm glad that more and more information is becoming available, BUT it seems that only particular information is released that suits the aim or goal of those broadcasting it. For instance, information regarding the widespread of the Delta variant and infection rate is hysterically pushed upon us and the possible need for mandating mask wearing, after they told us that if we had the vaccination we would no longer need to wear the mask and that the vaccination would also protect us from Delta. OK, so people make mistakes. I get it. However, the teachers refused to teach our children until they were placed at the front of the vaccination line with the first responders. That done, they now say that they will not return to class until the children are vaccinated. Good call, considering the fact that children are not being vaccinated yet.
Yes, I want to hear the latest information as it is released, BUT please give us the truth whether good or bad, not just politically motivated.
Why is it that they tell us about the great spurt in Covid infections due to the Delta variant, BUT do not tell us about how low the death rate has become? Sounds to me that this is information that EVERYONE should know so that they can have a positive outlook on the situation and the future. Sure, some folks are still dying, but folks are still dying from the flu, rabies, snake bites, etc. Good news should be given out just as fast as bad news.
Does anyone have a link to a spurt of deaths in the past few months? I've been looking, but I only see graphs that are dropping. Seems to me that either the vaccination is working, or the virus is fading/weakening. Either way, I think that is good news. Of course, there are always the gloom and doom mongers that insist that one death in a million is too many, and that they know someone that just died or someone that is seriously ill and hospitalized. Sorry, but no one lives forever. No one gets out of this life, alive and old folks generally die faster than younger folks.
Give us up to date stats on how many are currently dying from Covid in the U.S. of A. I am not concerned with India, S.America or Africa. I do not plan to travel there again.
Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

Byte1 07-30-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1980719)
just returned from routine dr. appt. I discussed with him my sadness that covid is on the rise again and my anger at those who won't get vaccinated and/or wear a mask. He said he understood, seemed dismayed as well, and said many will pay a price for that.

I had my check up and my doctor asked me if I wanted the flu shot. I replied that I did not and he said OK. :popcorn:

fgaba1949 07-30-2021 11:31 AM

Delta Virus vs the Flu
 
Each year how many folks die from the flu ? Remember when they use to report that number.
So now anyone that dies from the flu is counted as Covid .
Thoughts on why ?

Byte1 07-30-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1980676)
I’m just glad Mike Lindell pulled his My Pillow adds from Fox News.

Why? And what does that have to do with covid?

graciegirl 07-30-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fgaba1949 (Post 1980728)
Each year how many folks die from the flu ? Remember when they use to report that number.
So now anyone that dies from the flu is counted as Covid .
Thoughts on why ?

I think that is speculation and or exaggeration that people are counted as death by Covid when that is not the cause. I think it must be very hard to precisely place the reason for death, particularly for the elderly. They can die from the Covid-19 virus but it could be labeled pneumonia. Both would be correct.

I choose to trust the CDC. I choose to think that Dr. Fauci is continuing to do his job and although very good at it, he can only report data reported to HIM.

It must be very difficult to get data that is completely reliable.

I refuse to believe that anyone is benefiting by this Pandemic that affects people world wide. I remember seeing the early films coming from Italy. AWFUL.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-30-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fgaba1949 (Post 1980728)
Each year how many folks die from the flu ? Remember when they use to report that number.
So now anyone that dies from the flu is counted as Covid .
Thoughts on why ?

Why did you stop beating your wife?

You can learn all about logical fallacies (and other types of fallacies) here:
Fallacies // Purdue Writing Lab

You're welcome.

graciegirl 07-30-2021 11:48 AM

The defining photos of the pandemic — and the stories behind them

bluedivergirl 07-30-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1980682)
Something to think about. There are about 30000 deaths from hep c annually. So it is advised to wash you hands after you go to the restroom.

In most states there are laws requiring you to wash your hands after if you work in a restaurant.

Pretty close to 300,000,000 American go the the bathroom every day. And yet, there are only 30,000 deaths from hep c.

There were 600,000 deaths from Covid last year, oh right that is also a lie…

Nevermind.

Hepatitis C is transmitted through bodily fluids.

Hepatitis A is the fecal/food-borne virus.

The two are distinctly different.

John41 07-30-2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1980720)
The data supporting all announcements by all levels of government should be released at the time of the announcement to provide confidence in the announcements.

True. Fauci has withheld data for peer review which is the foundation of science. He also called one of the scientists who supported the lab leak idea and that scientist suddenly changed his mind. Fauci is said to be a tyrant to and scientists who disagree with him.

GrumpyOldMan 07-30-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fgaba1949 (Post 1980728)
Each year how many folks die from the flu ? Remember when they use to report that number.
So now anyone that dies from the flu is counted as Covid .
Thoughts on why ?

The main reason if that what you said is not true. But, thank you for playing, and try again.

GrumpyOldMan 07-30-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1980733)
I think that is speculation and or exaggeration that people are counted as death by Covid when that is not the cause. I think it must be very hard to precisely place the reason for death, particularly for the elderly. They can die from the Covid-19 virus but it could be labeled pneumonia. Both would be correct.

I choose to trust the CDC. I choose to think that Dr. Fauci is continuing to do his job and although very good at it, he can only report data reported to HIM.

It must be very difficult to get data that is completely reliable.

I refuse to believe that anyone is benefiting by this Pandemic that affects people world wide. I remember seeing the early films coming from Italy. AWFUL.

I agree and will add, it is not just up to the doctor or hospital to pick a cause, any cause of death. There are laws governing how to determine the cause of death and comorbidity. ANY doctor that draws outside the lines can be sued and lose the license to practice medicine that they spent half their life earning.


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