Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1980733)

I think that is speculation and or exaggeration that people are counted as death by Covid when that is not the cause. I think it must be very hard to precisely place the reason for death, particularly for the elderly. They can die from the Covid-19 virus but it could be labeled pneumonia. Both would be correct.

I choose to trust the CDC. I choose to think that Dr. Fauci is continuing to do his job and although very good at it, he can only report data reported to HIM.

It must be very difficult to get data that is completely reliable.

I refuse to believe that anyone is benefiting by this Pandemic that affects people world wide. I remember seeing the early films coming from Italy. AWFUL.

Originally Posted by bluedivergirl (Post 1980741)

Hepatitis C is transmitted through bodily fluids.

Hepatitis A is the fecal/food-borne virus.

The two are distinctly different.

Originally Posted by Irishmen (Post 1980750)

Do you know of the Fauci patents regarding Covid and jabs? How about Gates patents? Why did Soros and Gates recently buy a Covid testing company? 9 billionaire created from profits just from jabs not including those who profited from small business being shut down for a virus that has 99% survival rate. Plenty of people benefiting....

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1980726)

I'm glad that more and more information is becoming available, BUT it seems that only particular information is released that suits the aim or goal of those broadcasting it. For instance, information regarding the widespread of the Delta variant and infection rate is hysterically pushed upon us and the possible need for mandating mask wearing, after they told us that if we had the vaccination we would no longer need to wear the mask and that the vaccination would also protect us from Delta. OK, so people make mistakes. I get it. However, the teachers refused to teach our children until they were placed at the front of the vaccination line with the first responders. That done, they now say that they will not return to class until the children are vaccinated. Good call, considering the fact that children are not being vaccinated yet.
Yes, I want to hear the latest information as it is released, BUT please give us the truth whether good or bad, not just politically motivated.
Why is it that they tell us about the great spurt in Covid infections due to the Delta variant, BUT do not tell us about how low the death rate has become? Sounds to me that this is information that EVERYONE should know so that they can have a positive outlook on the situation and the future. Sure, some folks are still dying, but folks are still dying from the flu, rabies, snake bites, etc. Good news should be given out just as fast as bad news.
Does anyone have a link to a spurt of deaths in the past few months? I've been looking, but I only see graphs that are dropping. Seems to me that either the vaccination is working, or the virus is fading/weakening. Either way, I think that is good news. Of course, there are always the gloom and doom mongers that insist that one death in a million is too many, and that they know someone that just died or someone that is seriously ill and hospitalized. Sorry, but no one lives forever. No one gets out of this life, alive and old folks generally die faster than younger folks.
Give us up to date stats on how many are currently dying from Covid in the U.S. of A. I am not concerned with India, S.America or Africa. I do not plan to travel there again.
Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1980756)

I agree, but as the CDC recently ( in the past couple of days) pointed out, it is very hard to provide accurate information in today's changing environment. The CDC for example can only provide what they are given, and many states have cut back on testing. So, is the decline on the charts you are seeing a result of a decline in testing, decline in reporting, or decline in infections?

In the case of the CDC, they are being pummeled with false claims and fighting misinformation constantly, and have to be very careful what they say because it will be instantly distorted beyond all recognition. So, they have to go slow. And they have to include disclaimers and cautions on any data they give out right now.

And heaven forbid a new variant (Delta?) comes alone, changes everything, and they have to somehow report those changes - while governors are shutting down testing, denying DELTA even exist, and under-reporting infections and deaths, so their "policies" look good to their base "See, I did good and the virus is under control". How many times have we heard that one in the last 18 months? Or it will magically disappear by April - and it didn't so, it has to be CDC that is lying...

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1980727)

I had my check up and my doctor asked me if I wanted the flu shot. I replied that I did not and he said OK. :popcorn:

Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1980759)

99% of Posters do not have a clue of what was injected into your arm.

You just trusted and obeyed.

It could be good it could be horrible.

It was a synthetic engineered substance (not natural) that causes your natural defense system to recognize Covid 19. Many scientist have stated that all those who took the shot NOW have no ability to ever fight off a different type of virus. Just saying you do not know what they put in your body but you, of course, now it all.

Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1980761)

Why does the CDC/govt. entities keep pushing the vaccine and admonishing those who don't get it if you can contract and spread the Delta variant anyway? Isn't that what this is all about - the need for a booster because the original COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective against variants?

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1980747)

The main reason if that what you said is not true. But, thank you for playing, and try again.

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bleau (Post 1980788)

Does anyone find it peculiar or even curious that they are diagnosing the “Delta Variant” when there is not even a test for it?
Hmm, curious minds want to know.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1980785)

Hmm, I am not positive but didn't they recently admit that the test that they just discontinued was also showing the flu as a positive for Covid on that test? Perhaps that is what that poster was referring to?

Although, just about ANY excuse is good enough for some folks NOT to get the vaccination. My excuse FOR getting the Covid vaccination is my spouses health. She means more to me than anyone that I do not know. I didn't do it for my neighbors, fellow shoppers or anyone else I might pass in the streets.
I have not received the flu shot because I have never had the flu and I have been around a lot of folks that have had the flu over the years. Maybe that is not a good enough excuse, but I admit to my reasoning. My spouse is the same way, even though her health condition is much poorer than most folks.

Folks have the right to die if they wish. No one can blame them for anyone else's death or sickness due to their infection UNLESS they knew they were infected. It is their choice if they wish to be reckless and/or ignorant regarding the vaccination. Some folks own and ride a motorcycles, which is deemed very dangerous by many folks. They know it is dangerous, but they still enjoy the ride. I am not comparing it with a contagious disease, just a mind set.

I have my shots so I am not worried about anyone else getting it, IF they do not want the shot. They are no danger to me and I am not a danger to them.

Time for mass hysteria to run it's course and for folks to settle down. Yes, I have lost two relatives supposedly to Covid. I have also about 12 that have survived Covid with hardly a break in their activities. Life goes on.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1980365)

CDC has announced that it will be presenting more information on the Delta variant and more details on the recent findings that more people who are fully vaccinated are getting infected by the Delta variant than originally thought.

However, at this point, they are still not saying those vaccinated that get the Delta are at risk of dying. We will see more tomorrow.

This is known as science - as more is know things change, recommendations change, and projections change.

Hopefully they will have good news, or at least more knowns than unknowns, but we will see what they say tomorrow.

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