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graciegirl 11-03-2019 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1692868)
There is not an I.D. around her neck as I am accustomed to seeing it there. She is carrying her I.D. The thing around her neck is the pull strings for her hoodie.

She parked on the wrong side of the street, blocked the driveway if that is in fact her car and I wouldn't speak to anyone who presented themselves at my home who was in the wild shape that she was presented in. Dress appropriately, give me some confidence immediately that you are not a Fugazy.

You are correct about the regional thing. Nobody would have this problem in the old Hood. :boxing2:

You are right as usual about her carrying her I.D.




The rest about dressing??? I would question she was sane. When lately has it been cool enough to wear that???

Carla B 11-03-2019 07:37 AM
As regards her mode of dress, what time did this happen? If it was early in the morning it was chilly outside. People on the golf course were bundled up. Also, if it was early, that is not a civilized time for a stranger to be asking questions, IMO. The only reason I'd be up is to go to the airport or hospital, with no inclination to be chatty in either case.

Bogie Shooter 11-03-2019 07:38 AM
If all the accusations about the lady are true....so what.
She is one out of hundreds doing the same job. Happens all the time in many situations, one bad apple.
Let it go......

Villageswimmer 11-03-2019 08:01 AM
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Most people do not understand there rights and even the Deputy had to call his supervisor and the supervisor call his watch commander LT. to know what to do. AT the End F.S.810.09 applies.
Now if this went to court i could bet that there would of been a federal and State ****ing contest; and what to do with this case, it would probably be thrown out but the Census Bureau would be warned to not violate privacy policy's.[/QUOTE]


So, after all the confusion among LEOs, what happened? Was she arrested? How did she respond to the Deputy?

graciegirl 11-03-2019 08:27 AM
I have never heard of "F.S.810.09" . It must be an issue in other states than Ohio and Indiana and Florida where I have lived.

I will look it up.

I did. I still don't know what it is. Here is what I found with some references to fertilizer and animals and a couple of things from trespassing lawyers down by Miami. Is this a county thing???


f.s.810.09 - Bing


Oh wait...…..I found this; https://www.husseinandwebber.com/cri...imes/trespass/

graciegirl 11-03-2019 08:44 AM
My assessment of this trespassing business is that each area of our country is a little different in how the laws view trespassing.

In some it is considered far worse than others. For instance, in Ohio one of the things I just read was that it was o.k. for hunters to "retrieve felled game from another's property".

Each of us has probably been raised up thinking differently about the laws. I know that my mother would have skinned me alive if she found MYSELF on a neighbors property at dinner time.

BobnBev 11-03-2019 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1692799)
The path to you’re front door is public property. Anywhere else is trespassing. You don’t have the right to decline the service.
Wrong in so many ways.

Chellybean 11-03-2019 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1692858)
I cannot agree more. I see no issue here. In my whole life I have not ever seen anyone get upset about someone coming to their door. I never lived in a dangerous area either. This is a very safe area. Making issues out of non issues and mountains out of molehills is what this whole thing looks like to me.

I feel bad for the lady. I would have to think this was probably the first time in her life the police were called on her.

If someone comes to my door trying to sell me something or trying to convert me, I just say No, thank you. If I peep out and profile them, as a mass murderer, a visitor from another planet or if they have a large snarling and barking animal with them, I just wave through the side panel and shoo them away...Ditto with folks with large running sores.

There is no reason to get all worked up over silly things or be unkind to innocent people trying to make a living.
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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1692861)
Rarely do I agree with Gracie, but in this case I do wholeheartedly. The OP appears to have issues with anyone being on his property.
I have issue with people that are not invited and will not leave when asked too, how hard is that for someone to understand?

kstew43 11-03-2019 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1692907)
I have issue with people that are not invited and will not leave when asked too, how hard is that for someone to understand?
you did the right thing for you, and I support your decision. Don't let anyone else tell you what you should have done.....

They were not there.....you were......

Chellybean 11-03-2019 09:29 AM
Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine

Chellybean 11-03-2019 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1692912)
Your anger is still evident, now directed at others.
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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1692910)
you did the right thing for you, and I support your decision. Don't let anyone else tell you what you should have done.....

They were not there.....you were......
Your correct!
When someone was not there and did not experience what i did i don't like the short judgement in how i handled it. JMHO

PennBF 11-03-2019 09:42 AM
Tracking
 
I do quite a bit of Ancestor tracking of family and for friends if they ask and the Census module in Ancestor.com and My Heritage is really useful at times. In a number of cases it provides the family members in the home at the time, ages, etc etc. These statistics are valuable in establishing a number of Gov. bases. It is also hard work to go to each home and secure the information. It is unfortunate that some are reluctant if not just plain refusing to provide the data which in the end is for their benefit. Also there are the groups that have become so paranoid at any intrusion by anyone they can't distinguish the good from the bad. :ohdear:

Marathon Man 11-03-2019 09:46 AM
I agree with some of the others. There is too much anger in this story to trust in its accuracy.


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